Clinton Portis rushing total 2006
 

Just for reference, the last few years Al Saunder's RBs have produced the following stats:

2005: Johnson 336-1750-20, Holmes 119-451-6
2004: Holmes 196-892-14, Johnson 120-581-9
2003: Holmes 320-1420-27
2002: Holmes 313-1615-21

Drool away. ;)

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i have been thinking about that since we got saunders here. it is a offense that enables the rbs to rack up crazy yards and allows the qbs to pass for 3000 yards also. just imagine saunders did not have the athletes we got here in kc. the only question is the qb can brunell maintain the consistency that saunders qbs have. or can jason campbell prove his worthy of a number one pick.

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I hope it's higher than 1700yrds, but I feel like it could take a year or two in this new offense before Portis puts up a 2000+yrd season.

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[QUOTE=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]i have been thinking about that since we got saunders here. it is a offense that enables the rbs to rack up crazy yards and allows the qbs to pass for 3000 yards also. [B]just imagine saunders did not have the athletes we got here in kc[/B]. the only question is the qb can brunell maintain the consistency that saunders qbs have. or can jason campbell prove his worthy of a number one pick.[/QUOTE]

Brunell vs. Green is kind of a toss up, but our receiving corps is definitely better than in KC. I would not, however, say that KC doesn't have the athletes we do - Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson certainly benefited from Saunders' system, but both are/were tremendous athletes.

We may never know what Holmes could have accomplished if he had played a full career, and Johnson is already on pace to set some absurd records. I'd say KC had two of the best RBs in the league for a number of years now.

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz]I hope it's higher than 1700yrds, but I feel like it could take a year or two in this new offense before Portis puts up a 2000+yrd season.[/QUOTE]

I'm not holding my breath for that. Aren't there only 4 RBs in the history of the NFL to post a 2000+ yard season?

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I see the offense being potent as a whole, but the ball will get spread around. Portis will have 1700+, but the receivers will get a share of those yards too.

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I'm guessing somewhere around 1500, but I think he'll have less carries than last year but a higher yards per carry.

Portis is a beast and a workhorse, but as we saw at the end of last year, riding him game after game wears him out eventually. He's just not the kind of back you can give 25+ carries a game to week after week and expect him to stay healthy in the long run.

I think we'll see heavy doses of Betts at times this year to keep CP fresh.

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Maybe the more important question is, how many awesome blocks are we going to see from CP this year?

I swear I like watching that guy block almost as much as watching him run.

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I don't know Saunder's thoughts on spelling Portis, but I liked the way Gibbs did it last year with Portis basically running 2-3 series and then Betts coming in for a series, then back to Portis. I know this was not the case every game, but it sort seem to work that way. I don't see a 2000 yard season for Portis, because you do have Betts and Rock out there to help. I voted the 1400-1700 range.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm guessing somewhere around 1500, but I think he'll have less carries than last year but a higher yards per carry.

Portis is a beast and a workhorse, but as we saw at the end of last year, riding him game after game wears him out eventually. He's just not the kind of back you can give 25+ carries a game to week after week and expect him to stay healthy in the long run.

I think we'll see heavy doses of Betts at times this year to keep CP fresh.[/QUOTE]

I agree. If you compare CP to some of the great workhorse backs in recent years (LT, Alexander, Holmes), he's actually one of the taller ones at 5'11, but also lighter at 213 or so. These workhorse backs generally got in the 350 carry range during their peaks.

Like Matty said, CP doesn't seem to be able to handle that. I don't know if it's a conditioning thing or a size/weight thing. It certainly isn't a heart issue - dude's got enough heart and passion for 3 RBs.

In order to break 2000 or even 1700, you need a LOT of carries or a YPC that is just phenominal.

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I'm guessing he'll get close to 1400 yards but not quite. His ypc will go up, and he'll get his share of scores. I see more trick plays in the offense this year. I see a lot of screens and intermediate completions, some of which will be broken for scores. I see more defensive scoring this year as well. I see less close games this year, where Portis is pulled for the fourth quarter and Betts gets the majority of carries in mop-ups.

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guessing anywhere from 1400-1600 range. just like everyone else, the carries need to go done because as much as i love clinton, like matty said he was physically getting worn out at the end of the season. and matty, who sponsored this poll?

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I think Portis is gonna be runnin the ball against nickel and dime defenses alot. He will have alot of yac yards.

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[quote=PorterHouse]I think Portis is gonna be runnin the ball against nickel and dime defenses alot. He will have alot of yac yards.[/quote]

+1

I think you will see CP's rushing total remain in the 1500-1600 yard range, on fewer carries, plus I think you'll see him catch more balls out of the backfield. He not quite Faulk, but he has underrated pass catching ability that I think Saunders will try to exploit that out of two back sets.

CP is not a 3-yards and cloud of dust type runner that you can pound for 400 carries. It seems that he just needs to get past the first block and he's "gonnagetcha" at least 6-7 yards. I think you'll see a lot less 50-gut style between the tackles stuff this year, and a lot more backfield screen with R.Thomas, pulling behind Fauria off the right IMHO.

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Rushing = 1700-2000

All-purpose yards (including passing and receiving) = 2000+

I wonder if Portis will still run the HB pass with Randel El now on the team. We could let BOTH of them have passing plays in the playbook. That would kill some teams. I suggest we wait for the Dallas game to unveil the trickery though. :)

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[quote=Buster]Rushing = 1700-2000

All-purpose yards (including passing and receiving) = 2000+

I wonder if Portis will still run the HB pass with Randel El now on the team. We could let BOTH of them have passing plays in the playbook. That would kill some teams. I suggest we wait for the Dallas game to unveil the trickery though. :)[/quote]

I don't know. I love CP, but everytime he pulls his arm back for to throw that HB option I about have a heart attack waiting for the int. His throwing motion is so awkward I am always amazed the ball goes more than 10 ft.

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when gardner was here, both he and portis threw option passes, so yeah, you'll still see that.

1400-1700, because betts and rock are going to get a lot of work too.

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I'm in agreement w/ matty on this one. 1500 yards with alot less carries. if he gets enough carries 2000 is not unreasonable but i think gibbs will want to rest him for the postseason.

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[quote=That Guy]when gardner was here, both he and portis threw option passes, so yeah, you'll still see that.

1400-1700, because betts and rock are going to get a lot of work too.[/quote]

That was the ONE thing Gardner COULD do consistently. I loved him throwing that option because he looked like a quarterback at times.

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[quote=Mattyk72]Just for reference, the last few years Al Saunder's RBs have produced the following stats:

2005: Johnson 336-1750-20, Holmes 119-451-6
2004: Holmes 196-892-14, Johnson 120-581-9
2003: Holmes 320-1420-27
2002: Holmes 313-1615-21

Drool away. ;)[/quote]
Also in 2004 derrick blaylock started 5 games before he got hurt and johnson played. His stats were 118-539-8


and this year portis said he was going to get 10 yards per carry, so he'll probably get about 3000 yards;)
:woot:

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[quote=Mc2guy]I don't know. I love CP, but everytime he pulls his arm back for to throw that HB option I about have a heart attack waiting for the int. His throwing motion is so awkward I am always amazed the ball goes more than 10 ft.[/quote]

Sure it's ugly, but it works pretty good most of the time.

He and Tomilson are great with this play.

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[quote=steveo395]Also in 2004 derrick blaylock started 5 games before he got hurt and johnson played. His stats were 118-539-8


and this year portis said he was going to get 10 yards per carry, so he'll probably get about 3000 yards;)
:woot:[/quote]

So you're the one person to vote 2000+? :)

I'd love to see it, but our WRs are so good now, they'll need to touch the ball too.

Of course it's their presence that is going to make CP's job easier with the holes he'll have to run through. Opposing teams' safeties are going to be really busy this year!

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Fellow Skins fans I'm envisioning a complete and utter rout of the Minnesota Vikings on the 11th of September. Man I wish I could be there. I KNOW The Big Jack is going to be insane !!!!!

I love the HEY YOU SUCK chants ! WHOO!

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I think that Portis's numbers will remain right where they were, although I think he will have a better season, if that makes sense. I think his YPC will increase, and his carries are going to go down a little bit. I think that we have so many weapons on offense now, that we dont have to put the game on Portis's back every single week. In addition, I think Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright both had pretty strong seasons in their limited roles, and I wouldnt be suprised if they got a few extra carreis just to keep Portis fresh.

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im glad most people are down to earth and not picking 2000+, but still i think he might get around 1.4 or 1.5k in yards, high powered offense, lots of air attack, etc...i think portis will get that...most people need to realize if he can get more than 1200 yards that is really good for us

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I think he will get about 1400. But hopefully my guess is very low!

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1837. I'm from the future.

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1400-1700. personally i think that the poll options are too broad. the difference between a 1400 yard rusher and 1700 is pretty big, i think he will get 1500-1600 yards if he can stay healthy...

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I just wish that we would've had Saunders a year ago.

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[quote=BrudLee]1837. I'm from the future.[/quote]
Thanks for visiting us. I'm happy about that total. Will CP also win MVP?

:)

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Personally i think that CP is going to get right at the 1700 mark, with our recieving core and Brunell seeming to be back to his old self that teams are going to play less line ball hopeing not to give up the big plays downfield and that our O-line is going to open it up for CP to get the longer runs (which in turn is going to cause his YPC to skyrocket and in turn get him more rest time later in the game, CP will always be the work horse of the skins and dont think he would have it any other way.

With him getting the higher YPC i would say he will be sitting between 80 and 110 yards by the 3rd quarter and the skins then utilizing Betts more for the control of the football more in the 4th, this will do two things, take Portis out somewhat of the we have to have and play more of the fun game and not the work game to win, and that being said he will be fresher down the line for the later games and playoffs, where he will be healthy and ready to pop out 400 yards in the Super Bowl, that we will attend and win this year (haha sorry have to put some optimism in there).

Also CP has dropped some weight for this season and that seems to be his focus, and that i think will make him feel better and cause him to be more energetic for the later part of the season.