Ladell Betts is he worthy of praise?
 

Has anyone been sold on Ladell being a starter for other teams. He has seen significant plays on offense over the past few years and has been forced to step up in needed situations. Alot of the analysts say he could be the main guy on most other teams and is a solid backup for the skins. I see him just as an average backup in a day and age that almost require teams to have 2 standout backs featured. Special teams, or at HB he can mix it up. I think he doesnt have the speed and luck to really shine just yet if he ever will, most backs in the league don't get that fortune. Seeing Chester Taylor land the Vikings job had me thinking what is the worth of Betts beyond a backup role. It would be devastating to lose him of course but personally it is difficult to be subjected to this propaganda. With Saunders now staffed I'm sure I will eat these words but it will be crucial to have an X-factor armed and ready to run. I'd go as far as dump Jacobs to get in that posistion for next year through the draft.

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Saunders really likes him, and he won over Gibbs as well.

Enough said if you ask me.

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I've always liked Betts. He's faster than most people give him credit for. I'm glad we have him.

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I've mentioned it before, but I still have nightmares of him fumbling on the goal line up in Buffalo a couple of years ago, probably because it was the only I've seen the Skins on the road and we were in the 2nd row of the endzone. The O-line opened a huge hole and it looked like he was going to walk in for the score (which I think would have tied the game) and then come right to us for a group celebration but then he coughed it up and a single tear rolled down my cheek.
Then again, I just watched those highlights from the 2nd dallas game last year, that hit on newman might make up for the fumble.

Overall, I think we could be in a lot worse shape as far as our back-up RB goes.

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For the question if he could start for another team it seems every time we have asked him to fill in he has done a good job. He has averaged 3.97 yards per carry for us in the past four years. I think he's a great back up but would have to see him as a starter for more than a few games to see if he could hold up to running 25 or so times a game. It realy does not matter because we are not getting rid of him and the only way he will become a starter here is if Portis goes down.Then I have all the convidence that he could get the job done.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz]I've mentioned it before, but I still have nightmares of him fumbling on the goal line up in Buffalo a couple of years ago, probably because it was the only I've seen the Skins on the road and we were in the 2nd row of the endzone. The O-line opened a huge hole and it looked like he was going to walk in for the score (which I think would have tied the game) and then come right to us for a group celebration but then he coughed it up and a single tear rolled down my cheek.
Then again, I just watched those highlights from the 2nd dallas game last year, that hit on newman might make up for the fumble.

Overall, I think we could be in a lot worse shape as far as our back-up RB goes.[/quote]

The worst fumble in recent Redskins memory for me is Stephen Davis' goal line fumble against the Arizona Cardinals.

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Betts is a servicable backup. He plays Special Teams, and the coaching staff likes him. By all means he's worthy.

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He has my vote...he doesn't whine or complain. I wonder what he will do when his contract is up.

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I agree with most of you guys. He is a solid backup and the hit he put on T. Newman of the Cowboys in week 15 last season was awesome. Plowed.

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[quote=724Skinsfan]The worst fumble in recent Redskins memory for me is Stephen Davis' goal line fumble against the Arizona Cardinals.[/quote]yea that one was bad but in my memory the mosy devastating fumble for a reskins team ever was gerald riggs fumble against philly in the last 30 seconds allowing their defense to win the game in 88

and i do believe our skins dont really miss that much when ladell is in there giving clinton p a breather

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Ladell may be the best backup in the NFL, his one weekness is his ability to stay healthy, although he hasen't shown much in the way of blocking either, but he's as well balanced as a runner as you could ask for.

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[quote=offiss]Ladell may be the best backup in the NFL, his one weekness is his ability to stay healthy, although he hasen't shown much in the way of blocking either, but he's as well balanced as a runner as you could ask for.[/quote]

Does anyone remember when Betts' poor blocking or rather perfect opportunity to block and he let Ed Reed of the Ravens blitz, strip Brunell, and return it for paydirt??? In that game Betts did nothing but make costly plays that resulted in the Ravens winning and Baltimore Skins fans have that as the only record and topic of conversation amongst the city between the two teams.


This goes along with all the previous conversations of nit-picking the Offense under a microscope to find particles. Guilty as charged. Still heading to Florida.

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^^^ yes. That was a tough loss for some reason. I mean more than other games we lost back then. We had the game and special teams and that shit lost it for us. I always have blaimed betts for that. He just was thinking "shit" when reed 'broke' away. Then when reed passed him betts just stopped and watched in horror. I can remember thinking if he ran after reed and then reed forced the fumble the ball would be moving around enough to give betts a chance to recover it. However, betts just stopped and watched then the ball came out and he started to move.


I think betts could be a starter in many places. He is going to be huge this year. Him and portis are going to be mixing it up. Portis will get 16 carries a game with a nice 10 yards per rush average with betts on 15 carries. They are going to be unstoppable. Betts is going to be our bettis. I have called him the little bus for a while.

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[QUOTE=bigSkinsfan61]yea that one was bad but in my memory the mosy devastating fumble for a reskins team ever was gerald riggs fumble against philly in the last 30 seconds allowing their defense to win the game in 88

and i do believe our skins dont really miss that much when ladell is in there giving clinton p a breather[/QUOTE]

What about when the 0-4 Redskins were holding onto a 7-6 lead against the 0-4 Cowboys on Monday night and Davis fumbled while all the Redskins were trying to do was run out the clock, and then they went on to lose 9-7? That was dreadful

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i hate dallas :(


35-7 :) Those numbers make me happy

35-7

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betts would start on a bad team. he's a good #2 though.

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People want to dwell on the negatives all the time. Remember the missed block by Betts? How about the fumble?

How about the fact we have a pretty damn good backup and from the sounds of things, he's only going to be more involved with the offense this season which is definitely a good thing.

Things could be a lot worse.

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at this point, the only team that i could see betts starting for is SF. he still is a very dependable backup to CP, but i think thats all he will ever be is a backup.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]People want to dwell on the negatives all the time. Remember the missed block by Betts? How about the fumble?

How about the fact we have a pretty damn good backup and from the sounds of things, he's only going to be more involved with the offense this season which is definitely a good thing.

Things could be a lot worse.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I thought that play was what really lit a frie under Betts ass. I really thought he picked up his play after that game, and in my opinion he had a great 2005. Remember the Tampa game?

I'm really excited to see what the guy brings to the table this year.

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[quote=gibbsisgod]at this point, the only team that i could see betts starting for is SF. he still is a very dependable backup to CP, but i think thats all he will ever be is a backup.[/quote]
They have Frank Gore, who was a rookie from Miami last year. He's mad good, but he only got taken in the 3rd round because he tore both of his ACLs in college, but he did well when he played. Last year as a rookie he got over 600 yards at 4.8 yards per carry. He's gonna be good this year

barlow blows though

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There is something wrong with blaming one player on a loss. Mistakes will be made in games and if you really think about it you can spread blame all over after a loss.

p.s. If you only score 9 points you aren't likely to win the game.

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yeah and if you can remember that far back portis was another late second round choice from the U.

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He's a decent back, no doubt. Been a bit snake bitten with the injury bug and such, but a really good and solid back.

As far as being a starter for most other teams, I don't know where you heard that -- but I call bullshit.

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[QUOTE=number21isabadman]yeah and if you can remember that far back portis was another late second round choice from the U.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Interesting second round in 2002

#51-Clinton Portis
#56-Ladell Betts
#62-Antwaan Randle El

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[quote=MightyJoeGibbs]Has anyone been sold on Ladell being a starter for other teams. He has seen significant plays on offense over the past few years and has been forced to step up in needed situations. Alot of the analysts say he could be the main guy on most other teams and is a solid backup for the skins. I see him just as an average backup in a day and age that almost require teams to have 2 standout backs featured. Special teams, or at HB he can mix it up. I think he doesnt have the speed and luck to really shine just yet if he ever will, most backs in the league don't get that fortune. Seeing Chester Taylor land the Vikings job had me thinking what is the worth of Betts beyond a backup role. It would be devastating to lose him of course but personally it is difficult to be subjected to this propaganda. With Saunders now staffed I'm sure I will eat these words but it will be crucial to have an X-factor armed and ready to run. I'd go as far as dump Jacobs to get in that posistion for next year through the draft.[/quote]

What teams have two standout backs? I cannot think of any. There may be a team or two but to say that it is a norm in the league is not right.

You could say New England and Carolina but I can see flaws in the incumbent and the rookies. Maybe Atlanta? Don't even think Denver with Ron Done.

I would say that the Redskins depth at RB is as good as anyone's.

Betts runs hard, he has speed to break long ones and he can run kicks back. What else do you need? He did well as a feature back against Minnesota.

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Betts is a good RB, but also is an important special teamer for us. Anytime your no. 2 RB can be a solid special teams player, that's a great roster advantage.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]What teams have two standout backs? I cannot think of any. There may be a team or two but to say that it is a norm in the league is not right.
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ravens have two starters at RB. miami sorta had 2 last year. cincy the year before that (dillon/rudi)... I can't really think of any others.

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Jacksonville has pretty good depth at RB. If Addai turns out to be good then Indy also has depth.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]ravens have two starters at RB. miami sorta had 2 last year. cincy the year before that (dillon/rudi)... I can't really think of any others.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say anyone has two "standout" backs though. The Dillon/Rudi and Holmes/Johnson situations are the exception not the norm. We have as good a backfield as anyone in the league right now. A stud with a solid backup and some flexibilty with Cooley and Sellers is as good as you can hope for.

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[quote=FRPLG]I wouldn't say anyone has two "standout" backs though. The Dillon/Rudi and Holmes/Johnson situations are the exception not the norm. We have as good a backfield as anyone in the league right now. A stud with a solid backup and some flexibilty with Cooley and Sellers is as good as you can hope for.[/quote]

yeah, i agree with that. addai/rhodes won't be as good as portis/betts, though deangelo/foster might be close if it clicks.

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Quick question since we're on the topic of running backs, is anyone else here having the HUGE man-crush that it seems everyone on ES is having? I've seen like 10 separate threads devoted to him making the team. They have something against Betts and Cartwright?

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I'm guessing you're talking about Lumsden?

People just love the unknown.

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HAHA! Yeah, forgot to put his name, but you definitely knew exactly who I was talking about. I mean they act like Betts hasn't been a MORE than effective backup.

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I guess Lumsden is the Great White Hype.

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How does Lumsden make this team?

As third TB? Over Rock? I can't see it. Unless this guy turns out to be the next Riggins.

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I agree there's no way Lumsden makes the team unless there's an injury to anyone ahead of him.

Betts is firmly entrenched as the #2. Rock the #3. Both are valuable special teams guys.

Lumsden's chances are slim to none.

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Exactly. Who was the great unknown last year that everyone was so hyped about?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Exactly. Who was the great unknown last year that everyone was so hyped about?[/quote]

How quickly we forget... I give you The King of all Redskin man crushes:

[IMG]http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/24/240596.jpg[/IMG]

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Ahhhh, indeed. That's a pretty funny picture. I can definitely remember touching myself to that man's physique thinking he was the next great Skins linebacker.

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Regardless, that man's bicep is bigger than my torso.