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Schneed10 07-27-2006 02:05 PM

Training Camp Roster Predictions
 
The Washington Redskins enter training camp with most starting positions settled, however several battles will develop in camp for backup spots on the roster. Joe Gibbs typically insists that his depth players make a big impact on special teams. With that in mind, let's examine each position and attempt to identify the players who ultimately become a part of the 2006 Redskins. Today we look at the 25 players on offense and the 3 special teams specialists; tomorrow we'll examine the 25 on defense.

Read the full article here:

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wordpress/2006/07/27/training-camp-roster-predictions-offense-and-special-teams/"]http://www.thewarpath.net/wordpress/2006/07/27/training-camp-roster-predictions-offense-and-special-teams/[/URL]

And discuss.

MTK 07-27-2006 02:14 PM

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For once we really don't have a lot of drama headed into camp regarding position battles.

The team is pretty set across the board at least for the starters. Only a few positions have any real intrigue, weak side LB, WR depth, and maybe punter.

Of course injuries can always throw a big wrench in the works, let's hope that doesn't happen.

GTripp0012 07-27-2006 02:16 PM

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Great organization, great read.

gibbsisgod 07-27-2006 02:20 PM

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Nice job Schneed!

I agree with matty, when the only real competion is going to be for 1 starting spot, backup roster spots and punter, I would say we are pretty well set.

Hail2theskins 07-27-2006 02:22 PM

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i was just browsing around and found some forums talking about Lumsden they all thought very highly of him and even went so far as to say the team has been extremely dull with him gone, but man, listening to these guys talk is weird, canadian football is crazy...

[url=http://www.ticats.ca/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=7668&start=0]View topic - jesse Lumsden :: Hamilton Tiger-Cats :: Official Site of the Tiger-Cats[/url]

still havent found any video on him though

12thMan 07-27-2006 02:38 PM

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Damn good read, Schneed. You guys constantly confirm that this is without a doubt this is preiminent site for the true fan.

With that being said, it's good to have somewhat of quiet training camp this year.

BigSKINBauer 07-27-2006 02:43 PM

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great job schneed.


[QUOTE]WR - 5

Locks: [B]Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle-El[/B]


On the Bubble: [B]David Patten[/B], [B]James Thrash[/B], Taylor Jacobs
[/QUOTE]

Hahaha, to bad for jacobs. The schneed has spoken

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 02:46 PM

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Yup, very nice read. Would love to see a couple offensive linemen impress Bugel this year so we can breathe a little bit easier.

12thMan 07-27-2006 02:51 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Yup, very nice read. Would love to see a couple offensive linemen impress Bugel this year so we can breathe a little bit easier.[/quote]

I think that's truly the only of area of real concern in my mind. Quality depth along the OL.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 02:52 PM

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Right, because even though we didn't have any "serious" injuries last year, we have some guys get beat up and I'd love to have the depth to give some guys plays off or maybe games against shitty teams off.

Schneed10 07-27-2006 03:03 PM

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Thanks for the love, guys.

It was more than a little alarming to me last year during the playoff game at Seattle when one of the tackles went out for a few plays (I can't remember if it was Jansen or Samuels). The Skins already had Randy Thomas out with the broken leg, so old man Brown was in at guard. Then when the tackle went down, they decided to move Brown out to Tackle and put Raymer in at Guard. Seems to me if they had any confidence in Molinaro they would have just sent him in at tackle and let Ray Brown stay at guard where he was actually a little bit useful. Either they really didn't think much of Molinaro at that point, or they vastly overrated Cory Raymer's ability to play guard.

Either way, I hope Molinaro can be a good backup at T, because after that Seattle thing last year I'm not so sure.

I think Pucillo makes for a solid backup C/G though actually. And I'm hoping Lefotu turns into a little something, either that or Walter can hopefully hang in there alright. But I'm worried about the backup at T especially. And as for G and C, there are a lot of "hopefully's" in this post.

12thMan 07-27-2006 03:07 PM

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The way the game is being played these days, the thing that really seperates the winners from the losers is depth. I always hear people, sometimes myself included, complain about how much better their team would have been if this guy or that guy wouldn't have gotten hurt. But you know what, injuries are a reality in the NFL not an excuse. The best teams mangage to navigate choppy waters when a key guy goes down. I don't want to oversimplify, a team can't lose a Brady or a McNabb and still make a run. But it's becoming more and more rare that any one lasts the entire season - at any position.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 03:07 PM

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At least Pucillo and Walters have some experience.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 03:09 PM

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Make that starting experience.

gibbsisgod 07-27-2006 03:09 PM

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[quote=12thMan] injuries are a reality in the NFL not an excuse[/quote]i like that quote. if is a mighty big word (if this guy hadn't gotten hurt then........)

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 03:10 PM

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Then again, so does Torrin Tucker and we all see how HE worked out for the Cowboys.

ArtMonkDrillz 07-27-2006 03:17 PM

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[quote=gibbsisgod]i like that quote. if is a mighty big word (if this guy hadn't gotten hurt then........)[/quote]
As my grandmother once said to me over a football injury conversation during Thanksgiving dinner, "If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle."

gibbsisgod 07-27-2006 03:20 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz]As my grandmother once said to me over a football injury conversation during Thanksgiving dinner, "If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle."[/quote]thats disgusting

whats even worse is that she said it while you were eating dinner

ArtMonkDrillz 07-27-2006 03:24 PM

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Position depth is at the top of my list of crap that I'm really worried about for this season. I feel like everything can go down the shitter at the drop of a hat if the team gets unlucky.
However, some of my fears are eased by the coaching staff. I'd like to think that they can get almost any player to perform well.

MightyJoeGibbs 07-27-2006 03:37 PM

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Yeah, I agree that there is no drama or setbacks at this point all seems pretty good. There are a couple of spots to watch how it plays out, that will be a good time.

I agree with TMC and also think Bugel is underly noted and his guys will be just as prepared by him then any other unit. Bugel is the coolest guy,the coaches offices are alligned like it was the Justice League HQ among legends and heroes. And I have a non Justice League photo.
[IMG]http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/3906/sigpicgf4.jpg[/IMG]

Is there depth at OL ?
For the way our backups performed last year would it be crazy to say we are not much better or the same in talent but less in exp.this year to last? I think we evened out but with an upswing of being younger and having the opportunity to cultivate them .In 06-07 to come away this season with no drastic OL injuries could turn out as the perfect time that they spent investing in teaching these younger guys to be fundamental players.

I think Bugel is in his lab creating the love child of the Hogs/ Dirt Bags. I would be horrified to know what name it would be called.

With Shneed saying TJacobs is on the bubble- does anyone think he'll be kept or traded as to not stay in the division and head to the Eagles who desperately need speed and hahaha hands. Hey one mans trash vs treasure.

I feel we all have a gameplan heading into training camp. I'll be at the camp dissecting for further insight. Speaking of camp. When can we anticipate the Skins going Live full pads? Surely the first day would be shorts right? Took the Ravens like 3-4 days before full pads full contact or 3/4 speed.

12thMan 07-27-2006 03:54 PM

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[quote=gibbsisgod]i like that quote. if is a mighty big word (if this guy hadn't gotten hurt then........)[/quote]

Man, I'm just glad we're finally talking about football instead of such trivial things like stupid "Man Laws" and is 12thMan a guy or a girl!! Puh-lease!

gibbsisgod 07-27-2006 03:57 PM

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[quote=12thMan]Man, I'm just glad we're finally talking about football instead of such trivial things like stupid "Man Laws" and is 12thMan a guy or a girl!! Puh-lease![/quote]those stupid things got me though a very, very long off season. but you are right, let the games begin

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 03:59 PM

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[quote=12thMan]Man, I'm just glad we're finally talking about football instead of such trivial things like stupid "Man Laws" and is 12thMan a guy or a girl!! Puh-lease![/quote]

Come on Keith, nothing trivial about me being right. ;)

12thMan 07-27-2006 04:01 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Come on Keith, nothing trivial about me being right. ;)[/quote]

Dude, I love you! You're the only cat that can call me by my name.

You hear that guys: Man Law: Only 'Malcolm' can call 12M Keith...for the rest of you bitches it's 12thMan!!

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 04:02 PM

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All thanks to my connections. :biggthump

12thMan 07-27-2006 04:04 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]All thanks to my connections. :biggthump[/quote]

I still say you're a shady mofo!:)

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 04:09 PM

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You know my career. It's all part of it.

That, and people skills.

12thMan 07-27-2006 04:11 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]You know my career. It's all part of it.

That, and people skills.[/quote]

Dude, Schneed's gonna get pissed at me for hi-jacking another thread!!

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 04:13 PM

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Hijacking does indeed happen. I think we've all made our comments and that's when the tangents happen. On a side note, once the season starts, things get pretty damn serious around here.

steveo395 07-27-2006 04:15 PM

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[quote=Schneed10]Thanks for the love, guys.

[B]It was more than a little alarming to me last year during the playoff game at Seattle when one of the tackles went out for a few plays (I can't remember if it was Jansen or Samuels). The Skins already had Randy Thomas out with the broken leg, so old man Brown was in at guard. Then when the tackle went down, they decided to move Brown out to Tackle and put Raymer in at Guard. Seems to me if they had any confidence in Molinaro they would have just sent him in at tackle and let Ray Brown stay at guard where he was actually a little bit useful. Either they really didn't think much of Molinaro at that point, or they vastly overrated Cory Raymer's ability to play guard.[/B]

Either way, I hope Molinaro can be a good backup at T, because after that Seattle thing last year I'm not so sure.[/quote]
That wasn't the reason that Raymer was in there. A tackle didn't get hurt. Ray Brown kept getting cramps, so they put in Raymer at guard.

12thMan 07-27-2006 04:17 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Hijacking does indeed happen. I think we've all made our comments and that's when the tangents happen. On a side note, once the season starts, things get pretty damn serious around here.[/quote]

No doubt, there will be less hijacking.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2006 04:17 PM

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Way to get us back on task steveo.

gibbsisgod 07-27-2006 04:32 PM

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[quote=steveo395]That wasn't the reason that Raymer was in there. A tackle didn't get hurt. Ray Brown kept getting cramps, so they put in Raymer at guard.[/quote]yeah, I dont remember one of our tackles getting injured or anything. I do remember brown having some sort of health issues. raymer looked completely lost out there. does anyone know if he signed elsewhere?

Schneed10 07-27-2006 04:39 PM

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[quote=steveo395]That wasn't the reason that Raymer was in there. A tackle didn't get hurt. Ray Brown kept getting cramps, so they put in Raymer at guard.[/quote]

Ohhhhhh, that's right. Now I remember that. For some reason I thought Samuels went out for a series or two. Thanks for the reminder Steveo.

OK then that makes me feel a little better about Molinaro. It's not like the Skins just wouldn't put him in at tackle, it was that they didn't have a backup guard worth a crap behind Ray Brown.

Hopefully we won't ever have to see Molinaro in action, meaning Samuels and Jansen continue to be rocks. Knock on wood.

Schneed10 07-27-2006 04:43 PM

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PS I edited the blog article for accuracy. Thanks again steveo.

MightyJoeGibbs 07-27-2006 08:14 PM

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Earlier I asked if the skins would be in full pads but then I came across this

"Of course, Brunell and all Redskins players are expected to be in full pads for the first workouts of training camp on July 31. Brunell is coming off an off-season finger injury but is expected to be at full health."

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=18132]He Knows Quarterbacks[/url]

So I only assume they want to evaluate just as much as we do and have everyone going live.

Schneed10 07-28-2006 02:21 PM

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Yesterday we reviewed the training camp battles to watch amongst the Offense and Special Teams units. Today we review the 25 defensive players who figure to join the 2006 Washington Redskins on their quest for a Super Bowl championship.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/wordpress/2006/07/28/training-camp-roster-predictions-defense/[/url]


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