Rod woodson can't believe how ignorant Peter King is.
 

OK, maybe I'm making too much out of this.

On tonight's (8/2) Total Access, following a Harry Carson retrospective, Woodson was asked what other player has waited too long for induction. His response?

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/Monk.htm"]Art Monk[/URL], that's who.

He went on to go over Monk's stats, making the specific point that the yardage number of Monk impresses him the most (take that, eight yard hitch).

But what does Woodson know? After all, he only played in the same era as Monk.

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yea i saw that too

i hate peter king

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peter king has only one vote. im not understanding what the other writers(voters) see that keeps monk from enshrinement. just a quick glance at stats alone puts monk in canton

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I don't know, Peter King seems to carry a lot of [I]weight[/I] when compared to other writers!



ahaha, I kill myself

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Rod Woodson gets on my damn nerves... he doesn't have enough personality to be on TV. Link was funny on there (mainly because his chair was 5x the size of everyone elses and it looked funny) but I'm glad RW had something nice to say about Mr. Monk...

Re: Rod woodson can't believe how ignorant Peter King is.
 

How about Madden being finally inducted? It's ridiculous he had to wait 28 years to get in.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz]I don't know, Peter King seems to carry a lot of [I]weight[/I] when compared to other writers!



ahaha, I kill myself[/quote]

i laughed.

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Fuuuuuuuuuck Peter King!!!
And reguardless of Peter King or not I'm making plans now to be in Canton next season to see Art Monk inducted. Cause I think it'll happen. It's a travesty, a sham and BULLMALARKY!!!
My brother always said we're going if he gets in. I believe this is Superbowl and Art Monk's year... GO REDSKINS!!!!

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lux i like your style

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We're bringing it this year.
Joe Gibbs year 3 back in the saddle. Including Al Saunders, Greg Williams, Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Andre Carter, Sean Taylor, Brandon Lloyd, Marcus Washington, Cornelius Griffin and etc etc etc. REDSKINS YEAR!!! NOTHING STOPS US!!! NOT PARCELLS NOT TO NOT SEAHAWKS NUTHIN!!!
GO REDSKINS!!!

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[quote=Luxorreb]We're bringing it this year.
Joe Gibbs year 3 back in the saddle. Including Al Saunders, Greg Williams, Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Andre Carter, Sean Taylor, Brandon Lloyd, Marcus Washington, Cornelius Griffin and etc etc etc. REDSKINS YEAR!!! NOTHING STOPS US!!! NOT PARCELLS NOT TO NOT SEAHAWKS NUTHIN!!!
GO REDSKINS!!![/quote]:food-smil :headbange :towel: :biggthump :party-smi :cheers :httr: :dallas: :dallas: :dallas: .

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Never thought i would say that Rod Woodson and i have something in common but apparetnly we both think that Peter Queen, i mean King, is an idiot.

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It was interesting to hear also during the Harry Carson interview that in 2004 he was so fed up with the system, he wrote a letter to have his name removed from eligibilty. He said it was fed up with having his ability to play and someone else determining if he was good enough when he played, it was causing too much hardship or frustration on his and people close to him that knew he was good enough and had been shafted. I wonder how much that particular stand he made effected and 2 years later he is inducted.
It really is sad that now you see current players with the same or less accomplishments getting into the hall because players are marketed and showcased more in todays NFL. I think here in the next year Monk will get in, he is getting more push than most guiys when it comes to just plain along being dogged out when it comes to an induction to the Hall.

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It's getting to the point where King is constantly defending his position on why Monk isn't in the Hall. More than any other player being snubbed, Monk's name is now being mentioned almost immediately.

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When I saw this discussion I went and looked at Monks stats and can understand why King votes the way he does. Monk has good stats in receptions and receiving yards but Andre Reed and Chris Carter have more and I dont think those guys are HOF players either. Monk is way down on the TD list and he didnt do much in the post season and even less in the Super Bowls (with the exception of 1991 vs Buf). Unfortunately for Monk I think King may be correct.

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[quote=irish]When I saw this discussion I went and looked at Monks stats and can understand why King votes the way he does. Monk has good stats in receptions and receiving yards but Andre Reed and Chris Carter have more and I dont think those guys are HOF players either. Monk is way down on the TD list and he didnt do much in the post season and even less in the Super Bowls (with the exception of 1991 vs Buf). Unfortunately for Monk I think King may be correct.[/quote]

Yes, Monk is way down on the list NOW. But it took a very long time for his receiving records to be broken. He was a 100 reception leader before it was really a big deal.

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[QUOTE=irish]When I saw this discussion I went and looked at Monks stats and can understand why King votes the way he does. Monk has good stats in receptions and receiving yards but Andre Reed and Chris Carter have more and I dont think those guys are HOF players either. Monk is way down on the TD list and he didnt do much in the post season and even less in the Super Bowls (with the exception of 1991 vs Buf). Unfortunately for Monk I think King may be correct.[/QUOTE]
Must... control... urge to kill.

When Monk broke the all-time receptions record, it was 820 receptions. That was a measure of the way the game was played. By being the first to exceed that number (and by 120 catches), he was a trailblazer for the receivers of today. The first with a 100+ catch season, the consecutive games with a reception record holder at his retirement (since beaten by Rice) - these are the things that made Monk respected.

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King did say earlier this year that he would rethink his stance on Monk because of all the support he has received. King has stated his reasons and stood behind his decision which I do respect but disagree. If he is now willing to listen and rethink his view on Monk we do have to give him some credit. I'm not saying he was right only that he stood by how he felt even under the scrutiny he has received.

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[quote=firstdown] we do have to give him some credit[/quote]

bologna, i give him no credit, oh what everyones telling him how much of an idiot he is and he finally figured it out so he backtracked and said hed look it over again? no, the guys a moron, id give him credit if he stood by his post, but now hes just backtracking trying to save his butt from further scrutiny

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]Must... control... urge to kill.

When Monk broke the all-time receptions record, it was 820 receptions. That was a measure of the way the game was played. By being the first to exceed that number (and by 120 catches), he was a trailblazer for the receivers of today. The first with a 100+ catch season, the consecutive games with a reception record holder at his retirement (since beaten by Rice) - these are the things that made Monk respected.[/QUOTE]

I hear what you are saying and agree the game was different back then. I think King's problem is that the record is for receptions, not TD receptions, and I think he is not quite certain that catching a lot of balls makes one a HOF receiver.

By the way, Monk is now 5th on the reception list behind Rice, Chris Carter, Time Brown & Andre Reed. Of that list I think only Rice is HOF material.

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod]:food-smil :headbange :towel: :biggthump :party-smi :cheers :httr: :dallas: :dallas: :dallas: .[/QUOTE]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nice to see Woodson giving Monk some props. Monk needs more people speaking out like that for him.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]King did say earlier this year that he would rethink his stance on Monk because of all the support he has received. King has stated his reasons and stood behind his decision which I do respect but disagree. If he is now willing to listen and rethink his view on Monk we do have to give him some credit. I'm not saying he was right only that he stood by how he felt even under the scrutiny he has received.[/QUOTE]
Do we respect Peter King for saying he would rethink his stance on Monk this year, or do we excoriate him for walking into that meeting with his mind made up for each previous year?

That's right, I said "excoriate". Look it up.

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[quote=BrudLee]Do we respect Peter King for saying he would rethink his stance on Monk this year, or do we excoriate him for walking into that meeting with his mind made up for each previous year?

That's right, I said "excoriate". Look it up.[/quote]Any man that can use the word "excoriate" must be correct KIng is a jerk.

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[quote=gibbsisgod]:food-smil :headbange :towel: :biggthump :party-smi :cheers :httr: :dallas: :dallas: :dallas: .[/quote]

The excitment around here is unbelievable. I sure hope our Skins stay healthy and give us all the season we are dreaming of having!

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[quote=gibbsisgod]:food-smil :headbange :towel: :biggthump :party-smi :cheers :httr: :dallas: :dallas: :dallas: .[/quote]

Somewhere, someplace, BSB is shedding a tear.

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well well well, good afternoon malcolm. its been a long time since the skins have had this much REAL excitement about this seasons football team. barring any major injuries, some of you younger folk may get to enjoy what some of the old timers already have, the sweet smell of redskin sucess and boy, does it smell sweet

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Good afternoon dmek. I think I speak for us all when I say, "WILL SATURDAY GET HERE ALREADY?!"

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[ Link was funny on there (mainly because his chair was 5x the size of everyone elses and it looked funny)
Agreed, I always got a good chuckel when they would show the empty chairs.:laughing-

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Sports writers should not be involved in the HOF selection process. I have said this several times on other threads, having a journalism degree and being a sports writer does not mean you know anything about football. Sports writers, like most fans that never played the game, only care about glamour stats like scoring, sacks or int's. They do not understand the game enough to appreciate other aspect of the game like physically beating your opponent on a run play. Art Monk was a big physical receiver and great run blocker, he frequently took on and handled DB's and LB's so Riggo and E. Byner and could get all the headlines. That does not show up on a stat sheet or in a Monday morning article.