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What do you guys make of Portis's postgame comments?

He was probably just frustrated over the situation, but I'm sure his comment about being injured in a game he had no business playing in will rub some fans the wrong way.

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[quote=Mattyk72;203083]What do you guys make of Portis's postgame comments?

He was probably just frustrated over the situation, but I'm sure his comment about being injured in a game he had no business playing in will rub some fans the wrong way.[/quote]
i didnt want him playing in it anyway...he's right

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Any injury could happen at any time. I mean he could get hurt during practice. Does that mean he shouldn't practice either? That said, I think he was only going to play that series anyway

I think he's just understandably frustrated. He'll probably sit out the rest of the season and be ready for week one

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Well i thought it came from frustration mostly, but if i was the coach i'dve played him for a series simply because he needs to start getting back into the rythm of playing football again.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;203083]What do you guys make of Portis's postgame comments?

He was probably just frustrated over the situation, but I'm sure his comment about being injured in a game he had no business playing in will rub some fans the wrong way.[/QUOTE]


It won't rub me the wrong way. What does he need to prove in the preseason?

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he looked as genuinely upset as i've ever seen him. very troubling.

he can't help but compete, and he knows it. the coaches should have too.

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I sympathise with what he is saying but unless he is advocating that all the starters shouldn't be playing he needs to shut up. Besides, I am sure he wasn't going to play more than two series anyways. Also, was there really a need for him to pounce like a cat?

Injuries are part of the game and players need to play in these games even if little to get all their gears in shape. As I see it if you don't play in pre-season your gears won't be broken-in so to speak and in all likelihood you're probably going to get hurt in the first few games of the season.

Clinton, I love you man but you're wrong. I don't want you playing a whole game but I think you aught to play a half or two before the season.

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The only one's that it will rub the wrong way is the coaches who decieded to put him in there, personally RB's have the least amount to adjust to on offense and take the biggest pounding, they really don't need any uneccassary pounding before the season starts.

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Clinton can only play one way, thats just the way he's always done it. if he doesn't, he'll realize he's only 212lbs and that will ruin everything.

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Portis should be annoyed. It's one thing for a star RB to get injured on a running play--but tacking a defender after an interception (after you laid out as usual in blitz pickup)--would be very frustrating. Give Portis some time and I think he'll cool off though...

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For God's sake, he was only going to be in there for one series. Gibbs even said so after the game. He just wanted to have one drive with the number ones. I am glad to see that Clinton cares enough to run down a defender after an interception. He knew it was pre-season, and he should have tried to shove him out of bounds. He knows he isn't Sean Taylor. No one thinks they will ever get hurt when playing, and I think it really isn't the coaches’ fault and it sure isn't Clinton’s fault he got hurt.

It just happens. Hopefully he can rehab and be ready to go for week one.

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He doesnt get paid to tackle and doesnt get to play another down b/c he couldnt let a preseason score happen.He's not responsible in preseason to care about a runback. They kick it back to him 30 secs. He's an idiot.

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[quote=drew54;203108]For God's sake, he was only going to be in there for one series. Gibbs even said so after the game. He just wanted to have one drive with the number ones. I am glad to see that Clinton cares enough to run down a defender after an interception. He knew it was pre-season, and he should have tried to shove him out of bounds. He knows he isn't Sean Taylor. No one thinks they will ever get hurt when playing, and I think it really isn't the coaches’ fault and it sure isn't Clinton’s fault he got hurt.

It just happens. Hopefully he can rehab and be ready to go for week one.[/quote]Exactly what I was about it say. Coaching staff did nothing wrong, and Clinton played the game the way it's supposed to be played.

I've had a pair of shoulder subluxations in my playing days, and although the severity of the injury varies, I can tell you from expierence that if this was the regular season, I'd bet #26 would have returned for the 2nd half.

Listening to his comments didnt inspire a whole lot of confidence though.

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o please. He should shut up. He shouldn't be talking about how he shouldn't have been playing. THat really rubs me the wrong way. All starters play and maybe he is trying to say that all staters shouldn't play(all around the league) but it comes off as the coaching staff messed up. I am glad he fought to make the tackle but to him he shouldn't be playing in a meaningless game so maybe he should have just pushed him and tried to get him out instead of destroying him. He should be careful too. When that thing gets cut up on sportcenter its going to sound like he is a 'me' player and the coaching staff did something wrong
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First off I am a Brunell fan but what was that pass he threw. If he threw it away better Portis wouldn't have gotten hurt. When I first saw the play I thought Brunell got run over. There is some blame to go Burnells way if you can blame Betts hurting Thomas last year.

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[QUOTE=RedskinPete;203140]First off I am a Brunell fan but what was that pass he threw. If he threw it away better Portis wouldn't have gotten hurt. When I first saw the play I thought Brunell got run over. There is some blame to go Burnells way if you can blame Betts hurting Thomas last year.[/QUOTE]

I watched that play again and it appears that Brunell was actually trying to throw the ball out of bounds but underthrew it due, at least in part, to a pass rush.

As for Portis' comments, I can understand them but strongly disliked them. I understand that he is frustrated that he was injured and that he might not be "full-go" come week 1. I also really like Portis. That said, the guy should keep his mouth shut. He has no business complaining about being in the game for one series.

The bottom line is that the injury is no one's fault. Brunell underthrew a pass. Gibbs kept Portis in for one series. Portis was injured while trying to make a tackle. Hey, those things happen in football.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;203160]I watched that play again and it appears that Brunell was actually trying to throw the ball out of bounds but underthrew it due, at least in part, to a pass rush.

As for Portis' comments, I can understand them but strongly disliked them. I understand that he is frustrated that he was injured and that he might not be "full-go" come week 1. I also really like Portis. That said, the guy should keep his mouth shut. He has no business complaining about being in the game for one series.

The bottom line is that the injury is no one's fault. Brunell underthrew a pass. Gibbs kept Portis in for one series. Portis was injured while trying to make a tackle. Hey, those things happen in football.[/QUOTE]

They do..........But he did try to throw out of bounds to his right and he is a left had QB . Also from across his body while falling down. He is lucky he didn't hurt himself!

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I think much of what Clinton had to say was mainly out of frustration because he was injured in a meaningless game. While listening to him it sounded as if he may be blaming someone else for being in the position to get hurt, and taking aim at four pre-season games. Injuries are a part of game of football, no one wants to get injured, and even if we only had one pre-season game someone would probably get hurt in it. Saying four games are too many (could be true) but it still only takes one game to get injured.

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This wouldn't be the first time he has insulted the coaching staff in press conferences. Not to bring up old stuff but did say how we were to predictable after the browns game years ago. He just seems like someone who will speak his mind. WHat he said today was stupid. It really isn't a horribley big deal but it sheds some light onto how he thinks. Staters play first series. THat is how it is in the preseason. Maybe he should have been more clear and said, starters around the league have no business playing in these games. I am glad he touched on how 4 games is too many and i agree but he shouldn't have said that he had no business playing in this game and how he was saying to himself, please take me out, after the 8 yard run. Please take me out? WTF, that is directed at our coaching staff. WHat a dumb comment. He doesn't get a free pass because he is clinton portis. Our defenders wouldn't say something like that. I like the way mark handles himself in press conferences, he always is answering the right way and doesn't get carried away with emotions. If i was gibbs or saunders i would be offended and if i was offended i would take it out on portis.

what i hate most of all is gibbs was asked about clinton's comments and he said if it was on anyone it was on himself. That is bull shit. Tehre is no reason gibbs should hvae to appologize. He is a classy guy. Its not like portis can say sorry for what he said. That is embarrassing.

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im with pete. what the hell was brunell doing? no receiver in the area and his arm not strong enough to get the ball to the sidelines? he has been around long enough to know better. by him not executing like a veteran quarterback, he got our franchise running back injured

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[quote=dmek25;203246]im with pete. what the hell was brunell doing? no receiver in the area and his arm not strong enough to get the ball to the sidelines? he has been around long enough to know better. by him not executing like a veteran quarterback, he got our franchise running back injured[/quote]

That play is a good example of why we have to play our starters a little in the preseason. Brunnell was rusty, not just physically, but mentally. He has been in practices now for months with defensive guys that are not going to hit him... or his receivers (hard) for that matter. The guys on offense need to get some physical contact to be ready for openning day.

The play was terrible, but I would rather that it happened against the Bengals now than against the Vikings in week 1.

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I think that people are looking too deep into this. Portis did exactly what he was supposed to do and unfortunately got hurt (Madden did a very good job of summing it up). This type of thing happens in the NFL. His comments were more frustration than anything. I didn't view it as him blaming coaches but just confirming a widely held view that there are too many pre-season games and that starting runningbacks probably shouldn't be in them. Look on the brightside, he could have blown out his knee.

It is almost a certainty that a huge name will go down for the year in the pre-season and I guarantee they will say something similar to what Portis said.

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[quote=BigSKINBauer;203241]This wouldn't be the first time he has insulted the coaching staff in press conferences. Not to bring up old stuff but did say how we were to predictable after the browns game years ago. He just seems like someone who will speak his mind. WHat he said today was stupid. It really isn't a horribley big deal but it sheds some light onto how he thinks. Staters play first series. THat is how it is in the preseason. Maybe he should have been more clear and said, starters around the league have no business playing in these games. I am glad he touched on how 4 games is too many and i agree but he shouldn't have said that he had no business playing in this game and how he was saying to himself, please take me out, after the 8 yard run. Please take me out? WTF, that is directed at our coaching staff. WHat a dumb comment. He doesn't get a free pass because he is clinton portis. Our defenders wouldn't say something like that. I like the way mark handles himself in press conferences, he always is answering the right way and doesn't get carried away with emotions. If i was gibbs or saunders i would be offended and if i was offended i would take it out on portis.

what i hate most of all is gibbs was asked about clinton's comments and he said if it was on anyone it was on himself. That is bull shit. Tehre is no reason gibbs should hvae to appologize. He is a classy guy. Its not like portis can say sorry for what he said. That is embarrassing.[/quote]

BSB, when it comes down to the principle of the matter, I'm right with you. Portis may be a star but stars still need to get in a game and get knocked around a bit to get ready for the season. He's got no business suggesting that he shouldn't have been in there.

That said, I would have a much bigger problem with it if Clinton Portis wasn't the ultimate team player. He practices hard, attends all the offseason stuff, works on his blocking, his receiving, his running, and he even contributes a whole lot to the locker room in keeping it light and fun. His comments stem from frustration.

I'm also not too worried about his physical health. He has 28 days to recover, that's more than enough for a shoulder issue like this. He'll be ready to play week one, and by then he will have forgotten about all of this.

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Portis is a team player, no doubt about that. That is exactly why he is injured. He leveled that guy. Portis gave it his all.

I am still disappointed in what he said. It is his responsibility, as much as the coaches', to keep himself safe out there. I just don't know what he is thinking. Does he really think he shouldn't have been in the game and the coaches messed up? That is beyond rediculous. All of his interviews have him looking really bitter. He is fake laughing, in an upset way. Its an injury, they happen, no need to put this on anyone.

I can't even come close to putting this on brunell by the way. Portis could have got hurt just as easily on a run or a block.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;203250]I think that people are looking too deep into this. Portis did exactly what he was supposed to do and unfortunately got hurt (Madden did a very good job of summing it up). This type of thing happens in the NFL. His comments were more frustration than anything. I didn't view it as him blaming coaches but just confirming a widely held view that there are too many pre-season games and that starting runningbacks probably shouldn't be in them. Look on the brightside, he could have blown out his knee.

It is almost a certainty that a huge name will go down for the year in the pre-season and I guarantee they will say something similar to what Portis said.[/quote]

I guess I look at it like a new car... you are eventually going get a nick, scratch, bump in the paint. You can do everything possible to try and prevent it from happening, but it is enevitable... you are going to wind up with one. It really sucks once it happens, but after that first one, the pain of the next one doesn't hurt so bad.

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listening to the thing again it didn't sound as bad as it did before. He may have been making a joke with the take me out of the game after the 8 yard run. I am sure he actually thought that but i don't think he was saying to the media that gibbs made a mistake and didn't take him out. I don't think he is upset with the staff. Maybe i took his words seriously and looked into them too much. The only thing that made feel wierd was when he was asked if he should have been taken out and he said thats a trick question. He could have just said no but he doesn't like the idea of playing at all and it is something that could be changed around the league. Its clear that he doesn't like 4 games in the pre season and i agree 100%

Portis seems to be more worried about the defenders going after him later this season.

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I love how he complains about being in too long right after he chased down that dude to save a touchdown in a meaningless preseason game. Come on Clinton, no one would have cared if you just started walking off the field as soon as the ball was picked.

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i totally disagree with you, hog. people would have been all over mr portis for not having heart, lack of hustle, or whatever if he walks off without trying to make that tackle. his hustle and determination on that play is the reason the fans of washington have grown to love him. no matter whats going on around him, us fans know we can count on #26 going full bore, 100% on every play.

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He was hurt and obviously frustrated, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Perhaps this was a blessing in disguise, the chances of him playing the rest of the preseason are zero to none. Let's get him rested up and ready to go for week 1.

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I wouldn't look too much into his comments, I'm sure Gibbs and Co aren't. He said it hurts, he justifies it by saying he shouldn't have been in there. The one positive about this is that he probably won't play again until the Vikings come to town, which means no further risk of injury. He is an excellent runner in anybody's system and will do fine without playing in any more preseason games.

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Holy crap! Matty and I basically said the same thing! I swear I didn't cheat and read his post before I typed mine. What does this mean? Have I graduated to some higher form of contemplative thinking or something? This could be the start of a beautiful day!

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[quote=724Skinsfan;203267]Holy crap! Matty and I basically said the same thing! I swear I didn't cheat and read his post before I typed mine. What does this mean? Have I graduated to some higher form of contemplative thinking or something? This could be the start of a beautiful day![/quote]

You are now awakened. You have been released from samsara. ;)

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Well, I don't agree with anyone on the team questioning whether or not they should be in the game at any point of any season. I am sure this will be addressed this morning by Gibbs and Co. and we will not hear about it from the Redskins after today other than the extent of the injury.

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[quote=BigSKINBauer;203138]When that thing gets cut up on sportcenter its going to sound like he is a 'me' player and the coaching staff did something wrong
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that is what kills me, he is getting paid way to much to let his emotions or feelings of frustration let him make a stupid comment like that, he has to realize he is a leader now, and flat out that is not what a leader says after an incident like that.

See Jon Jansen, preseason 2004

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Clinton is a leader.

that play was an example to the whole team. knocking a blitzer's helmet off wasn't enough, instead you chase down a 1st string cornerback and punish him for trying to score on your team.

a "me-first" player would have been all too aware that its a preseason game and wouldn't have put in that kind of effort. he inspired the entire team on that play, i'd say even the coaches.

as a leader, i think he also feels strongly about pre-season games in general and with the brand new comissioner watching, he looked him straight in the eye and told what he thought was right for all players.

pre-season is about making the owners money, not about conditioning. They are showcases where veteran players risk injury and don't get paid and testbeds for new talent. it should just be the latter. you won't find one starter in favor of them.

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Nice post!

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[quote=illdefined;203293]Clinton is a leader.

that play was an example to the whole team. knocking a blitzer's helmet off wasn't enough, instead you chase down a 1st string cornerback and punish him for trying to score on your team.

a "me-first" player would have been all too aware that its a preseason game and wouldn't have put in that kind of effort. he inspired the entire team on that play, i'd say even the coaches.

as a leader, i think he also feels strongly about pre-season games in general and with the brand new comissioner watching, he looked him straight in the eye and told what he thought was right for all players.

pre-season is about making the owners money, not about conditioning. They are showcases where veteran players risk injury and don't get paid and testbeds for new talent. it should just be the latter. you won't find one starter in favor of them.[/quote]

Nice take.

You would think we would know Portis better by now. Since he's been here he's been a player that's given this team 110% effort on every play, whether it's picking up blitzing LBs or playing hurt. He's the kind of guy you wish you could clone and have an entire team full of.

He gets banged up in a meaningless preseason game, he's frustrated about it and lets his feelings be known.

Personally, I'm not going to hold it against him.

I think it's funny that some people are so quick to question someone's leadership based on a couple of words. I'm sure that his teammates and coaches understand why he said what he did and aren't questioning his leadership abilities today. I'm sure they know what kind of guy he is and they can understand why he's upset over getting hurt in a preseason game.

Our entire season could potentially be in jeopardy, isn't that worth getting upset over??

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[quote=dmek25;203260]i totally disagree with you, hog. people would have been all over mr portis for not having heart, lack of hustle, or whatever if he walks off without trying to make that tackle. his hustle and determination on that play is the reason the fans of washington have grown to love him. no matter whats going on around him, us fans know we can count on #26 going full bore, 100% on every play.[/quote]


Yeah, you got a point, there. It just would have been nice if he would have injured the guy he was tackling instead of himself, lol.

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Injuries do happen in football, and like TAFKAS said they could happen in practice, mini camp, OTA's, basically anytime they put the pads on they are at risk. I want to see all the starters play some, but only because I want to brag to my friends how awesome our offense looks. The games don't count and I don't want the HUB of our team any more exposed than he has to be. The preseason is for evaluating marginal players.

Portis had no option, he made the tackle because he's a competitor. I haven't heard his comments, but I find myself agreeing with him. Do we really think that Portis needs the work in the preseason? Running the ball is more instinctive, rookie running backs normally have the easies transition. We have no questions about Portis, and nothing good could come of his playing in four preseason games.

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Portis' comments came out of frustration. I do believe this will be the year of Ladel Betts though.