What would you trade?
 

Now that we have aquired TJ Duckett there are possible future trades looming to fit us both under the cap and under the 53 man roster limit... So I ask, what do you see as a possible trades in the future?

Please, serious trade possibilities only, not a trade for Manning, Alexander, or something silly like that.

I see a trade of Betts to someone like the Texans for Phil Buchanon, or the Raiders for Fabian Washington. Another idea would be Betts to the packers for AL Harris

I don't thnik our teams strategy is to use the draft for anything more than trade bait so

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well looks to me we have a 1st, 5th, 6th, and a 7th left for next year and that first is worser of two GOOD teams. We might already be out of our 4th the year after so why not just follow suit. Lets just trade our picks away for candy or beer.

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all of the trades you mentioned would defintely need to have a draft pick from us. and i am not sure any one of those teams are interested. Al harris is a playmaker and would fit in nicely with the other corners we have.

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betts for the broncos DB foxworth, he is a pretty solid corner and is very young

i would rather have proven players rather than draft players. its really a 50/50 chance ur taking on a draft pick. they were great i college but that doesn't = greatness in the nfl

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I can't see Fabian Washington, first round pick. No way they trade him for Betts unless we sweeten the pot.

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sweeten the pot??????:Smoker:

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[quote=gibbsisgod;207158]sweeten the pot??????:Smoker:[/quote]

I ddddidn't sssttttuttter.

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how much for the sweet stuff???

this skunky shit is getting old.

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I picked those teams because they all have needs at the running back position

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[quote=12thMan;207159]I ddddidn't sssttttuttter.[/quote]

hell yea:pimp: :drink :cheers :party-smi :Smoker: =:vomit:

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[QUOTE=superskins;207153]betts for the broncos DB foxworth, he is a pretty solid corner and is very young
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The Broncos would not trade Foxworth for Betts. They like Foxworth and why trade for a back when they seem to be able to take undrafted rookie free agents and make them into superstars. I just can't see it in the cards.

I wouldn't mind seeing us trade Betts for a draft pick, young depth along the O-line, or a different young corner.

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I was going to say Taylor Jacobs for a case of Yoo-Hoo, but he's already gone.

With the addition of Duckett, I don't necessarily see Betts or Cartwright going anywhere, as they are 2 big ST players.

And most solid teams build through draft picks. the Skins have a tendency to trade them away. I'd like to see some of the fringe guys go for 3rd and 4th rounders.

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I would like to keep all, I think with the rotation we have now we are built for a very long season. However, trade talk is in my head too. I doubt we could trade for Fabian Washington who is out of Nebraska and was my favorite CB from '05. I dont think the Football Gods favor me that much. Since our CB are so physical each one could be a liability b/c they bang so much. OL depth is a factor too. Or do we consider draft picks for next year.
I am going to examine the fact we have draft picks for next year I say can be invested in OL. So by default I would say since Springs is getting older why not go for a CB. I think the guys we brought in this year are going to work out but we need another franchise CB to mold and raise ourselves.

Thats my long answer Trade Betts for CB.
Raiders need a HB but Betts would be a lateral improvement with Jordan.
Colts lost Mungro...But they still have Rhoades/ Addai.

One thing is for sure, if there is a way there is a Joe Gibbs getting his guy.

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Dont ignore me Matty, new Gibbs avatar's.......

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For a minute, I thought I was re-directed to a Cowboys site with all of the drug talk.:pffff:

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betts is NOT going to get you a starting CB. period. unless we threw in a 1st and a 3rd with betts, there's no way we're getting fabian or foxworth.

the best move would be betts for an OL backup, but then we may need to draft a RB since duckett is nothing more than a rent-a-player and was a bad deal for one year. I kinda wish they had gotten an extension done with him.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;207351]betts is NOT going to get you a starting CB. period. unless we threw in a 1st and a 3rd with betts, there's no way we're getting fabian or foxworth.

the best move would be betts for an OL backup, but then we may need to draft a RB since duckett is nothing more than a rent-a-player and was a bad deal for one year. I kinda wish they had gotten an extension done with him.[/QUOTE]


You're absolutely right, it will prove to be a bad deal in the long run because I just can't see giving a 3rd round draft choice for a back up player who perhaps has only months with the team. Some reports have even higher draft choices being considered. Duckett is only twenty-five years old about to sign only his second contract, based on his production he can command bucks on the market; Bucks we don't have or are not willing to spend for a back-up running back. It's not likely we'll pay Portis and Duckett. So the question becomes is the sum greater than the parts, and would he be willing to play a minimal role as back-up when he could be a featured back for another team making more money as well. These are things I would like to know before I pull the strings on a trade. Without these questions being answered beforehand, there's no way I make the deal, I just don't think in the long run it would be worth it. I'm beginning to think our FO has a clone in the person of George Allen.

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do we really have cap room for buchanon or harris? and the bigger question is, do we really want either of these over priced bums? i could see trading for a steady veteran like troy vincent

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i just wish i could hear a real explanation behind it and the long term plans there. I mean, portis is going to count something like 7mill against the cap next year, and we're not going to pay 3mill+ a year for our backup on top of that.

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan;207362]You're absolutely right, it will prove to be a bad deal in the long run because I just can't see giving a 3rd round draft choice for a back up player who perhaps has only months with the team. Some reports have even higher draft choices being considered. Duckett is only twenty-five years old about to sign only his second contract, based on his production he can command bucks on the market; Bucks we don't have or are not willing to spend for a back-up running back. It's not likely we'll pay Portis and Duckett. So the question becomes is the sum greater than the parts, and would he be willing to play a minimal role as back-up when he could be a featured back for another team making more money as well. These are things I would like to know before I pull the strings on a trade. Without these questions being answered beforehand, there's no way I make the deal, I just don't think in the long run it would be worth it. I'm beginning to think our FO has a clone in the person of George Allen.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing,especially the george allen part,this shit is getting ridiculous

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Philly is desperate. Get speedster Jeremy Bloom for Betts. Bloom will take the job of punt returner/ receiver . If you have never seen him when he played for Colorado, you missed a real Tim Dwightesque style of receiver.

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i Don't see betts going to a division rival

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[quote=SUNRA;207376]Philly is desperate. Get speedster Jeremy Bloom for Betts. Bloom will take the job of punt returner/ receiver . If you have never seen him when he played for Colorado, you missed a real Tim Dwightesque style of receiver.[/quote]

Good we will need someone to wipe the dust off of Randle El do when cobwebs start forming.

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First of all, if we ever traded anyone it would be Rock Cartwright. Ladell Betts is one of our main kick returners and I still doubt we would trade Rock because he is one of our gunners on special teams. Plus we have plenty of depth at cb with Springs (even though he is out for awhile), Rogers, Rumph, Wright, Jimoh, and Morton. The smartest move would be to trade on of those 2 for a solid backup offensive or defensive lineman. That would be the best move because when I look at the depth at the those positions I see nothing.

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[quote=redskins1164;207431]First of all, if we ever traded anyone it would be Rock Cartwright. Ladell Betts is one of our main kick returners and I still doubt we would trade Rock because he is one of our gunners on special teams. Plus we have plenty of depth at cb with Springs (even though he is out for awhile), Rogers, Rumph, Wright, Jimoh, and Morton. The smartest move would be to trade on of those 2 for a solid backup offensive or defensive lineman. That would be the best move because when I look at the depth at the those positions I see nothing.[/quote]

True, good point on your first post. But there is Thrash for Kickoffs, shhh I know but come on. Rock is one of our gunners I think he stays he...arrgghhh this is crazy drama. I just know Gibbs is 2 steps ahead of all this and it will work out.

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[QUOTE=redskins1164;207431]First of all, if we ever traded anyone it would be Rock Cartwright. Ladell Betts is one of our main kick returners and I still doubt we would trade Rock because he is one of our gunners on special teams. Plus we have plenty of depth at cb with Springs (even though he is out for awhile), Rogers, Rumph, Wright, Jimoh, and Morton. The smartest move would be to trade on of those 2 for a solid backup offensive or defensive lineman. That would be the best move because when I look at the depth at the those positions I see nothing.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the board! I don't think we'd get much, if anything, for Rock. We can get something of value for Betts. If we were to trade one of the two

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Trade Betts for offensive line help. (Or we might even be getting Duckett to use in a trade? Highly unlikely.) You won't get anything worthwhile for Rock. Also might be able to trade Patten. Thrash can still get open and catches the balls that come his way. (He will NOT be traded.) We will trade from positions where we have lots of (good) depth (WR and RB) for positions where we don't have depth.

If we have troubles with the DBs, we may have an extra 7 to 10 points against us in a game (at worst.) (If Sean Taylor can avoid friendly fire collisions (Springs, Smoot, ...) our DBs should have fewer injuries.) But the rest of the defense should be able to adjust.

But if we have troubles at offensive line, and guys are getting into the backfield frequently:
1) Drives stall because rushing yardage is sporadic instead of regular. More of a chance of getting tripped up in the backfield on 3rd and short or being stuck in 3rd and long.
2) The QBs get hurt and fumble. (Now you're on backup QBs.)
3) Our defense is on the field more time (i.e., if the offense can grind it out, the CBs aren't on the field as much)
4) The QB has more time to pass.

Easily worth 7 to 14 points on the offense. (At least from what I've seen of the difference between our starters and backups.) And since they're keeping the other team off the field, that's worth another 4 +/-.

Remember the playoffs last year. We need the OL to get its job done, and with our division, someone's probably going to go down during the year.

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jeremy bloom? he's done nothing and might not even make the eagles (With their great WR corp). whatever he did in college means next to nothing. he's had time off, he's tiny, and he hasn't shown to be very fast or productive thus far. not to mention, WHY would we need another WR or return guy?

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[quote=MightyJoeGibbs;207417]Good we will need someone to wipe the dust off of Randle El do when cobwebs start forming.

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...thank you. and don't forget to tune in next week to find out who will perform worse for their new team: Lavar or Ramsey. Until then, stay classy sports fans.

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Keep Betts, trade Portis!

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Betts is expendable now. He is not as durable as Duckett. I believe we could either get a decent corner or maybe replace the 3rd rounder we lost in getting Duckett. Patten may be expendable as well. Other than that, I dont think we can trade anyone else. we are so thin everywhere else.

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Patten is not expendable in my view. We need him for depth at wide receiver. He's a very fine player when healthy.

I would love to see Jesse Lumsden make the roster, and I think his only chance now is if Betts is traded. Betts' production hasn't been great, and he has had injury problems, but Al Saunders' glowing assessment of him tells me that there is a place for Betts and that he brings more to the table than I realized.

I think Betts will probably not be traded. Having someone to play the role of a third down receiving back is important to give Portis a rest. With Randle El, Betts' kick returning may not be as important, but it is an additional skill he brings to the table.

HB - Portis, Duckett, Cartwright (for special teams' work sake mainly), Betts
FB - Sellers
Practice squad - Manuel White, Jesse Lumsden (who won't last the season there before he is picked up by another team)

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[quote=davy;207904]Keep Betts, trade Portis![/quote]

You need another spot of tea, bloke.

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[quote=Oakland Red;207915]Patten is not expendable in my view. We need him for depth at wide receiver. He's a very fine player when healthy.

I would love to see Jesse Lumsden make the roster, and I think his only chance now is if Betts is traded. Betts' production hasn't been great, and he has had injury problems, but Al Saunders' glowing assessment of him tells me that there is a place for Betts and that he brings more to the table than I realized.

I think Betts will probably not be traded. Having someone to play the role of a third down receiving back is important to give Portis a rest. With Randle El, Betts' kick returning may not be as important, but it is an additional skill he brings to the table.

HB - Portis, Duckett, Cartwright (for special teams' work sake mainly), Betts
FB - Sellers
Practice squad - Manuel White, Jesse Lumsden (who won't last the season there before he is picked up by another team)[/quote]



Patten I would have thought as a keeper, but the will keep thrash for special teams, and he could contribute as a 4th. (call me insane) I was thinking the same thing earlier about Betts, and how Al always praised how impressed he was with him, but the truth rings a little louder when they traded for Duckett. That to me signals they are not as impressed with Betts right now, and given the history of injury problems, dont see him as a reliable back up. If we can get a decent draft pick or even a corner, I say get rid of him. I have never been a big fan of Betts, and his lack of production as a 2nd round pick. All be it, Davis and portis playing in front of him, i still think his history of injuries makes him less appealing as a primary back up. If he cant stay healthy carrying the ball 5 to 8 times a game, I dont know how he would stay healthy getting the ball 10-15 times a game.

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[quote=davy;207904]Keep Betts, trade Portis![/quote]

Bullocks! ... you geezer ;)

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[quote=Oakland Red;207915]
HB - Portis, Duckett, Cartwright (for special teams' work sake mainly), Betts
FB - Sellers
Practice squad - Manuel White, Jesse Lumsden (who won't last the season there before he is picked up by another team)[/quote]



I think some people have fallen under the spell of great coaching reviews given to not-so-amazing players (remember all the love for TJ?).

lumsden's already made it a full year without getting picked up (both he and kerry carter were in the seahawks camp last year and neither made the cut and no one else picked them up). He's had like 2 carries for 4 yards this preseason. NO ONE is going to give him an active roster spot based on that.