Portis to NE, for 2 1rd picks
 

I read on some other forum that Portis will be traded away to NE for two of their 1st round picks. This rumor started from ESPN radio. The evidence supporting it is the fact skins have not agreed to a contract yet with protis.

HOLY SH-T! This could be a very good idea, but I'd want to recoup our #2 pick as well. I highly doubt that this will happen since NE rarely goes after HUGE names with HUGE price tags (that's our thing). Also, Gibbs has been after a big name, big time back and Portis is that guy.

To me it doesn't make sense bc we would trade bailey and the 37th pick for the 21st and 32nd picks. I think it just a rumor, but was reported by espn, so it is a dicy situation.

Actually the 42nd pick (Cleveland has the 37th). But good point, that doesn't seem like a very fair trade or smart planning on our FO's part.

If this is true it's foolish.

I would make them throw in one of there seconds and then i would take that deal.

It's being said that we might get Ty Law, bc he is unhappy with the proposal he got from NE. Personally I would like it if we get him and 2 first rd picks. But that might be too much to ask from NE.

where was that reported? ty law and their 2 picks for portis? no way!
besides, if we could not afford champ how on earth are we going to afford law, who is worth even more?

I'd rather have portis than two low 1st rounders.

This rumor is [B]total nonsense[/B]. There are more rumors out there than you can shake a stick at, and 99% have one thing in common - they're horse hockey.

Yeah, this rumor is rediculous and would be a VERRRRY dumb trade on our part. I mean we trade the 42nd pick and Champ Bailey, esentially for the 21st and 32nd picks??? Thats obsurd . I havent heard it anywhere, and hope that I dont have too.

This trade makes no sense to me either. I find it hard to believe and even though it came from the "Worldwide Leader in Sports" just remember even they have been wrong before....how many draft picks did we get from the Dolphins when they named Spurrier coach? you see my point?

This is the link to Extremeskins where I first read about the rumor.
[url]http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51852&perpage=15&display=&pagenumber=1[/url]

Yeah I saw it there too, and it was supposedly on espnradio. I havent heard it though. Or dont know what show it came from

If this is true, this has got to be the dumbest move the Skins could make. What the hell's the point? 2 first round picks? Niether one would be as good as Portis. New England's picks are low and we couldn't get a decent runner at that spot. There aren't even that many decent runners in the draft. This would be absolutely ridiculous!

I've heard about contact between the Skins and Pats but not in relation to a deal to send Portis to NE.

What I heard was that IF the Bailey/Portis deal is finalized, the Skins are looking to acquire more draft picks and would trade down from the #5 slot. Supposedly, they contacted the Pats to see if they could have the two low first rounders from the Pats for the #5 pick. The answer to that was "NO".

The way it stands now - I hear - is that if the Skins get the early first round pick from the Pats they will also get a 3rd round pick with it. If they take the lower first round pick they then get a second with it.

Obviously, I don't have the phones bugged in the Redskins' office - or in the Pats' office - so this is third hand info at best.

Of those two choices, I would prefer they take the lower first round pick and a second roung pick. But that's just me...

I think we should just stay where we are....we need help now in the secondary and if Taylor is there at 5, grab him please...if he is gone, then trade down and grab a D linemen and have some extra picks

I agree, Beg. I'm still curious who we nab in the FA market.

[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]I've heard about contact between the Skins and Pats but not in relation to a deal to send Portis to NE.

What I heard was that IF the Bailey/Portis deal is finalized, the Skins are looking to acquire more draft picks and would trade down from the #5 slot. Supposedly, they contacted the Pats to see if they could have the two low first rounders from the Pats for the #5 pick. The answer to that was "NO".

The way it stands now - I hear - is that if the Skins get the early first round pick from the Pats they will also get a 3rd round pick with it. If they take the lower first round pick they then get a second with it.

Obviously, I don't have the phones bugged in the Redskins' office - or in the Pats' office - so this is third hand info at best.

Of those two choices, I would prefer they take the lower first round pick and a second roung pick. But that's just me...[/QUOTE]


That makes a lot more sense. I had heard some #5 for the Pats' two first rounders rumors as well. Does anyone know which show this Portis rumor was on?

They need to keep the 5 and draft Taylor. The Pats can shove their second or third round picks...

If its #5 for 21/32, I would entertian it. But NE would never do that, so I say just use 5 for Sean Taylor

I just saw WUSA 9 reporting on the rumor of Portis going to NE for their 1 (only 1 out of 2) and 2 rd picks.

So let me get this straight... Clinton Portis for the 21st and 64th picks in the draft?!?!?! That would be absoultey obsurd. I mean their second round pick is lower than ours was. So Essencially, we traded Champ Bailey for New Englands first round pick, if this deal was to go through. While we could have gotten a #6 from Detriot. How can anyone actually belive that. I mean break it down... we trade Champ Bailey and the 42nd pick in the draft for in the end ... the 21st and 64th pick in the draft? Are you f'n kidding me.. this thing is so bogus its not even funny.

What I have heard on this deal is that we will trade portis for the patriots 2 first round picks and Ty Law. From there we will trade our 1st round & one of their patriots 1st rounds plus Gardner to San Diego to get Fitzgerald with the 1st overall pick. but I still think it would be kind of stupid because we would still have glaring hole at running back. :confused:

I don't see this happening, but in DC anything is possible. :o

not any more!

This rumor is total BS. Has to be.

Yeah, there goes Channel 9's credibility. Oh wait, they didn't have any to begin with.

In defense of channel 9 what they said was that there was speculation that Portis might be traded to New England for their 2 firsts. And with Portis it would be difficult to keep Law so he could be released and the Skins could possibly go after him

so when do the rumors start about what we are gonna do with our pick? Anybody on this site have access to sensitive info about what direction the skins are leaning for the draft?

I don't have any inside info, but I strongly suspect we'll shop the #5 pick for a mid first rounder and a second rounder. We'd probably take Udeze, Smith, Starks, or Wilfork with the 1st pick.

Do you think this makes sense? I understand the need for more picks, but how can we justify passing up Taylor with the 5th pick if it is still there? Especially if we get Kearse in the FA market and possibly even Sapp.

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I don't have any inside info, but I strongly suspect we'll shop the #5 pick for a mid first rounder and a second rounder. We'd probably take Udeze, Smith, Starks, or Wilfork with the 1st pick.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Scott]Do you think this makes sense? I understand the need for more picks, but how can we justify passing up Taylor with the 5th pick if it is still there? Especially if we get Kearse in the FA market and possibly even Sapp.[/QUOTE]

I think Ramseyfan could be on to something there, but only if Sean Taylor is already gone. After all, the main problem with the team last year was defense, and the main problem with the defense was the front four.

Our defensive line needs a complete overhaul. This means 2 defensive ends and 2 defensive tackles who are not currently on our roster. In my mind, only Renaldo Wynn, and Lional Dalton should stick around, and then only in backup roles. Who knows what the prognosis is of Brandon Noble. If he's still able to walk, then he deserves a chance.

As I understand it, there's no defensive lineman worth a #5 pick. Only if Taylor has already been selected should we deal the pick.

I thought Holsley was alot better than Dalton, just wondering what makes you pick him over Holsley?

I don't know how you guys in DC, or the east coast can handle all the rumors and stay sane. We don't get crap out here. All I know is what I read on here and that's enough to make my head spin. Another post on this site says Portis has already agreed to a contract with the Skins. We're just waiting on Champ now I guess. Please stop mentioning Sapp. We don't need that lard ass here for the money he'd require.

There isn't a DT, DE worth the #5 pick. The only guys I'd take would be Manning, Roethlisberger, Mike Williams, Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Sean Taylor, and Robert Gallery. The QBs will be gone and we don't need a WR or OT, so Taylor is probably the only guy I'd take at #5.

BUT, we do need DTs and DEs and FA Dlinemen are expensive as hell, Lional Dalton is gone because he cost too much, the available pass rushing DEs are injury prone (Abraham and Kearse), and there are a number of DTs/DEs worth a mid first rounder.

We DEFINATELY need some home-grown talent on the dline. Also, we probably need a second rounder (given all the great WRs I think a lot of good players will fall into the 2nd round).


I wouldn't care if we took Taylor or if we traded down for Udeze, Smith, Wilfork, Starks, or Harris and a 2nd rounder. It's a toss up.

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I thought Holsley was alot better than Dalton, just wondering what makes you pick him over Holsley?[/QUOTE]

Maybe I'm thinking of Holsey. I really don't know. I tried to evaluate who the best DT we had last year, or what DT duo was the most productive.

Needless to say, that was a very difficult evaluation to make judging how our line performed last season.

We know that Darrell Russell won't be back. And I seem to remember popular opinion turning against Martin Chase. Then there's Jermaine Haley -- we lost a draft pick for him.

I think that's all of the DTs who played any extended period of time. The more I think of it, I can't come up with any reason or any play that stood out from [I]any [/I] of those guys to warrant a return to the team next year.

Either way, the D-line needs an overhaul. And hopefully it won't include Warren Sapp.

I always learned that a great pass defense is a pass rush. Now I am not saying that we should not get Sean Taylor, because I believe that he will be an immediate impact player, but for right now, I think that we should focus more on our D- Line. If the QB can't pass the ball, how can the reciever make the big catch?

[QUOTE=Jamaican'Skin]I always learned that a great pass defense is a pass rush. Now I am not saying that we should not get Sean Taylor, because I believe that he will be an immediate impact player, but for right now, I think that we should focus more on our D- Line. If the QB can't pass the ball, how can the reciever make the big catch?[/QUOTE]

Yea but Sean Tayor is being compared to Ronnie Lott, how can we pass on him.

If we can address our d-line needs through free agency then I would definitely take Taylor at #5, he would be the icing on the cake.