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SmootSmack 08-29-2006 07:33 PM

I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
Apparently, Dom Davis might not even make the Texans roster

[url=http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4147469.html]Texans' Davis in danger of being cut[/url]

so....Betts to Texas?

SantanaMan 08-29-2006 07:40 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
Betts isn't worth as much as we like to think he is, I personally don't see him getting traded (either due to us keeping him or because no-one wants him).
Houston have Morency and now probably starter Wali Lundi I think if DD can't go the other 2 will provide a pleasant suprise.

saden1 08-29-2006 07:49 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
Wow, man it sucks to be a Texan fan. First they don't take Bush, now they lose their best RB? Oh well, it wasn't like they were playoff contenders anyway. To the gutter Batman, to the gutter.

Betts is still worth something to us. If they want Betts now, I want a 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder at least.

illdefined 08-29-2006 07:52 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
hows their secondary? is Casserly still there? maybe he has a soft spot for ol JG...

NFLeurope 08-29-2006 07:52 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
I cant imagine Houston cutting their franchise running back. I mean if Davis really isnt making progress...and they feel this thing is gonna linger throughout most of the season...the worst i could see them doing is putting the man on IR...that way at least he would be available again next year.

But yeah...earlier i read a similar article...where the texans coach was saying that if the season started today...their rookie 6th round running back pick would be the starter...i also immediately thought that they would be a potential desination for ladell.

I like ladell and all...and think he's a talented back...but honestly...i believe we kinda have a logjam now at running back. I mean if you consider...that on average...we'll prolly run the ball an average of like 30-35 times a game...then its really gonna be hard to get everybody their carries with all the guys we have right now.

I would imagines Portis...is gonna get his 15-25 carries a game...

and that leaves what like 5 carries or less a piece for betts and duckett...not to mention cartwright...

I dunno...it seems like if we brought in duckett...and gave up what we did for him...it was cause the coaches felt he fit the scheme better than betts...and in that case i could see us getting some good value for betts now...maybe get a backup lineman...or that 3rd rounder we gave up for duckett back.

SmootSmack 08-29-2006 07:52 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=SantanaMan;209925]Betts isn't worth as much as we like to think he is, I personally don't see him getting traded (either due to us keeping him or because no-one wants him).
Houston have Morency and now probably starter Wali Lundi I think if DD can't go the other 2 will provide a pleasant suprise.[/QUOTE]

They've got Antowain Smith also

SmootSmack 08-29-2006 07:53 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=illdefined;209928]hows their secondary? is Casserly still there? maybe he has a soft spot for ol JG...[/QUOTE]

He's not there anymore. I think the Texans have Dunta Robinson and Phillip Buchanon. Those are the only names I can think of secondary wise

htownskinfan 08-29-2006 08:54 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
i think theyre going to put davis on ir and i dont think smith will make the team,their other rb's have looked pretty good in preseason,but they would probably interested in aquiring betts if we were interested in trading him,plus they have first rights to anybody that is cut,they might pick up someone that way,maybe ron dayne

SmootSmack 08-29-2006 08:58 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
Yeah he could end up on IR, which seems likely. But it still means no RB for this year. More importantly though, how much faith can they have in Davis long term? Didn't he miss several games last year as well?

steveo395 08-29-2006 10:44 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
on nfl network today they said the coaches said they weren't going to cut him

EEich 08-29-2006 10:51 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
Casserly was pretty smart to pass up Reggie Bush. Huh?

ArtMonkDrillz 08-29-2006 10:52 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
I wish he was still with the Skins

Schneed10 08-29-2006 11:11 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
Pretty please can we stop pulling trade speculation out of our rear ends?

hooskins 08-29-2006 11:14 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
One of the guys on SC just slipped up and said circumsize, instead of circumstance loll.

SmootSmack 08-30-2006 12:02 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;209986]Pretty please can we stop pulling trade speculation out of our rear ends?[/QUOTE]

Hi Schneed!!!

panamajack 08-30-2006 12:19 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
You can't cut Ladell Betts. And I'm pretty sure Joe Gibbs knows this. Yeah, you have Southeast Jerome (that is if the Redskins aren't making his injury sound minor to save face), Lawrence Maroney (who is performing pretty well), Rock Cartwright (a personal favorite cuz he goes hard), TJ (the Heel) Duckett, and (Money) Mike Sellers, but I think Betts represents consistency and stability, something the team hasn't had since Papa Joe's first go round. And to be honest, he's still a more than servicable back when healthy...

That Guy 08-30-2006 02:51 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
there's no way you just cut com davis. not unless you want to be fired on the spot. and betts trade value isn't NEARLY as high as some people seem to think.

Redskins8588 08-30-2006 05:31 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=panamajack;209999]You can't cut Ladell Betts. And I'm pretty sure Joe Gibbs knows this. Yeah, you have Southeast Jerome (that is if the Redskins aren't making his injury sound minor to save face), Lawrence Maroney (who is performing pretty well), Rock Cartwright (a personal favorite cuz he goes hard), TJ (the Heel) Duckett, and (Money) Mike Sellers, but I think Betts represents consistency and stability, something the team hasn't had since Papa Joe's first go round. And to be honest, he's still a more than servicable back when healthy...[/QUOTE]
The Redskins have a RB by the name of "Lawrence Maroney" on the team? Since when did that happen?

Gmanc711 08-30-2006 06:06 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=Redskins8588;210016]The Redskins have a RB by the name of "Lawrence Maroney" on the team? Since when did that happen?[/QUOTE]

We must have traded a mysterious third round pick for him in madden.

dmek25 08-30-2006 06:23 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
no way dom davis gets cut. and how did the texans get so many running backs on one team that no one has ever heard of? and, good morning tafkas

vaoutlaws2006 08-30-2006 07:32 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
what kind of redksin fan is that....? he still must be drunk from the pats game saturday. Got Maroney on the mind do ya?

SKINSnCANES 08-30-2006 08:10 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS;209931]He's not there anymore. I think the Texans have Dunta Robinson and Phillip Buchanon. Those are the only names I can think of secondary wise[/QUOTE]

lol, we could trade for Buchanon...then have Rumph and Buchanon playing together again, but in the nickel and dime slots...

Schneed10 08-30-2006 08:54 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[quote=TAFKAS;209996]Hi Schneed!!![/quote]

LOL

Harumph.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-30-2006 08:59 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
Good morning Schneed.

MTK 08-30-2006 09:28 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
I can't see the Texans letting Davis go unless they think his career is in serious jeopardy over this injury, which it doesn't appear to be. Just doesn't make alot of sense to release a guy with his talent when you don't have much behind him.

SmootSmack 08-30-2006 09:37 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;210047]I can't see the Texans letting Davis go unless they think his career is in serious jeopardy over this injury, which it doesn't appear to be. Just doesn't make alot of sense to release a guy with his talent when you don't have much behind him.[/QUOTE]

He's on your fantasy team isn't he?

MTK 08-30-2006 09:56 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[quote=TAFKAS;210050]He's on your fantasy team isn't he?[/quote]

Yeah and I'm freaking out about it, thanks for reminding me. :)

724Skinsfan 08-30-2006 10:02 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[quote=Redskins8588;210016]The Redskins have a RB by the name of "Lawrence Maroney" on the team? Since when did that happen?[/quote]

Typical rookie hazing. Mike Vrabel told Maroney that the Redskins bus would drop him off at his hotel on the way out of town. Too bad for him he fell asleep and woke up in Ashburn. When Gibbs found out about it later on he said, "Welcome to the team!"

Eight in the Box 08-30-2006 10:35 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[quote=Mattyk72;210056]Yeah and I'm freaking out about it, thanks for reminding me. :)[/quote]

Better grab Wali Lundy..

GTripp0012 08-30-2006 11:09 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[quote=TAFKAS;209931]He's not there anymore. I think the Texans have Dunta Robinson and Phillip Buchanon. Those are the only names I can think of secondary wise[/quote]Demarcus Faggins.

Hes not any good, but I do like his name.

#56fanatic 08-30-2006 11:51 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
These people look like total idiots if they cut Davis. Not only is he a quality, actually pretty damn good RB. He has proven in the last two years to be so. Plus, the idiots had the option of trading him during the draft and drafting Reggie Bush. Now how stupid would they look? No BUSH, NO Davis, now, a totally crappy running game. Houston would start to revolt.

724Skinsfan 08-30-2006 11:55 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
I agree cutting Davis would be foolish but Reggie Bush wouldn't help the Texans stop the Colts offense and Houston can't keep up with them offensively even with two Reggie Bush's. Best tactic would be to bolster defense and pressure Manning. Mario Williams looked to be the best DE to do that.

dblanch66 08-30-2006 12:00 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=saden1;209926]Wow, man it sucks to be a Texan fan. First they don't take Bush, now they lose their best RB? Oh well, it wasn't like they were playoff contenders anyway. To the gutter Batman, to the gutter.

Betts is still worth something to us. If they want Betts now, I want a 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder at least.[/QUOTE]
It's almost as bad as being a Raiders fan. They passed on Leinart and now have ....gulp...Jeff George.

GhettoDogAllStars 08-30-2006 12:29 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
my dad was telling me that when another, lesser known, RB was drafted the houston draft guys were disappointed. I think it was Jerious Norwood. apparently, they wanted to pass on Bush to get someone else, but they waited too long.

don't know how true this is, b/c my dad makes a lot of mistakes when it comes to the nfl (especially w/ names)

#56fanatic 08-30-2006 02:46 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[quote=724Skinsfan;210103]I agree cutting Davis would be foolish but Reggie Bush wouldn't help the Texans stop the Colts offense and Houston can't keep up with them offensively even with two Reggie Bush's. Best tactic would be to bolster defense and pressure Manning. Mario Williams looked to be the best DE to do that.[/quote]


The debate will go on for years on who they should have drafted. I dont see how anyone could pass over a talent like Reggie Bush. I dont care what you need. As bad as they are, they are getting the 1st pick every round, and they could have traded Davis and gotten another 2nd rounder. For them to not pick Bush, now treaten to cut Davis, I have to wonder who is calling the shots for these fools.

That Guy 08-31-2006 06:06 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
very few RBs should be drafted in the 1st round (portis, stephen davis, etc are available in the 2nd-4th), but guys like bush and tomlinson are unquestionable.

htownskinfan 09-04-2006 08:05 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=htownskinfan;209954]i think theyre going to put davis on ir and i dont think smith will make the team,their other rb's have looked pretty good in preseason,but they would probably interested in aquiring betts if we were interested in trading him,plus they have first rights to anybody that is cut,they might pick up someone that way,maybe ron dayne[/QUOTE]

damn,I nailed this one!!


[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2572250]ESPN.com - NFL - Texans, Dayne agree to one-year deal[/url]

dmek25 09-04-2006 09:56 AM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
ill pat you on the back, cause i know you cant reach it:)

EXoffender 09-04-2006 01:16 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[quote=SantanaMan;209925]Betts isn't worth as much as we like to think he is, I personally don't see him getting traded (either due to us keeping him or because no-one wants him)...[/quote]
Betts is good. A team with three and a half starting caliber RBs doesn't have much leverage for trading one. Teams waited to see if we'd cut one saturday.

SKINSnCANES 09-04-2006 02:14 PM

Re: I'm Starting Another Betts Trade Rumor
 
[QUOTE=EXoffender;211614]Betts is good. A team with three and a half starting caliber RBs doesn't have much leverage for trading one. Teams waited to see if we'd cut one saturday.[/QUOTE]

I really do hope we have "three and a half" starting caliber running backs...but I find that hard to beleive when we averaged what, 2 yd per carry in the preseason with them....

I think Duckett and Betts both have good potential...but I feel much better with being 2nd string. And hopefully they both do well in the role...and then we have more trade leverage


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