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12thMan 09-11-2006 10:22 PM

Skins Lose
 
What a nail biter! Johns Hall and Mr. Frost need to be replaced...then again how about Danny Smith!!

MTK 09-11-2006 10:23 PM

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Outside of that first punt Frost was pretty good.

Eight in the Box 09-11-2006 10:23 PM

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Cut John Hall for the love of God.

12thMan 09-11-2006 10:24 PM

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I'm sorry, I hate Frost. All and all it was a hard hitting, grind it out game.
I think we can rebound from this.

Pocket$ $traight 09-11-2006 10:25 PM

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Two games in a row Hall has f-ed it up.

The offense and defense were pathetic in the second half. Now they get to go to Big D.

12thMan 09-11-2006 10:26 PM

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Work in progress on both sides of the ball. I was suprised to see Demetric Evans give them hell like he did. where was Andre Carter??

atbrightwell 09-11-2006 10:30 PM

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Their is no way the Skins will beat Dallas if they play like that. I don't think we will be seeing any 4th quarter magic again, the skins will most likely drop to 0-2.

12thMan 09-11-2006 10:31 PM

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I think we rebound from this. The offense showed flashes here and there.

I think the defense has to go back and look at some things though.

wilsowilso 09-11-2006 10:32 PM

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Mark Brunell is starting to bother me. He didn't play bad but every other game he just doesn't seem to present a deep threat. If he drops back and is under pressure he just can't burn a team deep. I hope Saunders is up to the task of protecting us from his limitations. The D was just above average and we are officially pretty vulnerable against a well run west coast team. Talk about playing just well enough to lose. Hopefully the Offense will grow and grow quick.

RedskinRat 09-11-2006 10:41 PM

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Start Campbell, [b]now![/b]

vaoutlaws2006 09-11-2006 10:50 PM

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[quote=12thMan;213996]Work in progress on both sides of the ball. I was suprised to see Demetric Evans give them hell like he did. where was Andre Carter??[/quote]


better yet where was chris cooley? all i can say is the play calling by saunders in the red zone was freaking awful. 4 trips in the redzone and we get 3 fgs and one touchdown. You wont win many games like that. As far as I am concerned when the clock strikes midnight we have to put this behind us and get ready its dallas week. and as far as the defense goes i really think not having shawn springs in uniform hurt the most. Rumph and Wright are no springs and as far as rogers goes...he made some good plays and some bad plays. And Mr Taylor should have realized what referee crew was in town tonight. I think he has a bullseye on his back. The un-neccessary roughness penalty was a little iffy but the 15 yard face mask penalty was right on the money. You cant jerk someone to the ground by the face mask without being penalized PERIOD.

skinsfanthru&thru 09-11-2006 10:50 PM

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I almost thought for a second Gibbs was gonna go for that last play on 4th and 1 given the uncertainty of Hall's ability to kick a long fg comfortably. I'm very surprised by the lack of involvement of Cooley and hope that Brunell learns from this game to throw lobs on the screens a bit higher. The team should have won but it's not one of those completely discouraging losses that the team can't bounce back from.

rome108 09-11-2006 10:54 PM

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Anybody know if Andre Carter even made a tackle? Where was he? For that matter, where was the whole defenseive line? Where was Joe "Mouth Juice" and where was Corn G? yeeshh

Twilbert07 09-11-2006 10:56 PM

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Yeah, it was a sad night: Gibbs gets outcoached by Brad Childress; we enter the season with a kicker whose range is 27 yards, and we have a QB who throws the ball away on third down several times and is upstaged by someone a couple years older than he. It could be a long year if things don't chanhge quickly. Did Andre Carter even play? I didn't hear his name once.

Hog's Breath 09-11-2006 10:57 PM

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Brunnell was ineffective. Ous defense was lacking against a medicore offense. The only reason we did not give up more points was because of Viking penalties. I mean, their best WR got busted for DUI and their starting safety wasn't playing. This was our game for the taking. So, so disappointing.

saden1 09-11-2006 11:08 PM

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Hall is a POS...I'm not saying we cut him now but when the off-season comes, we should definitely look for a long term replacement.

jtm74 09-11-2006 11:38 PM

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bottom line-to many lost opportunities in red zone.hall shouldnt even been in that situation.also terrilble playcalling;if we had kept same playbook as last year we win.not enough down field passes.at least portis looked healty

CanadianSkin 09-11-2006 11:40 PM

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My one big question was, they give Taylor a pentaly for hitting a defenseless reciever, yet Lloyd goes up to get a ball and their safety hits him in the back of the head with a forearm yet nothing is called? That saves us 20 seconds and we are 15 yards ahead, which means we have better chance of getting that feild goal or TD....

I hate that refs are targeting a hard hitting Sean Taylor... totally crap!

MTK 09-11-2006 11:50 PM

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[quote=CanadianSkin;214086]My one big question was, they give Taylor a pentaly for hitting a defenseless reciever, yet Lloyd goes up to get a ball and their safety hits him in the back of the head with a forearm yet nothing is called? That saves us 20 seconds and we are 15 yards ahead, which means we have better chance of getting that feild goal or TD....

I hate that refs are targeting a hard hitting Sean Taylor... totally crap![/quote]

I was amazed at that non-call.

Taylor would be called on that 10 out of 10 times.

He gives a shoulder to Robinson going out of bounds and he gets flagged... I don't get it. He's a marked man, I don't care what Theismann says.

NY_Skinsfan 09-12-2006 12:29 AM

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[QUOTE=CanadianSkin;214086]My one big question was, they give Taylor a pentaly for hitting a defenseless reciever, yet Lloyd goes up to get a ball and their safety hits him in the back of the head with a forearm yet nothing is called? That saves us 20 seconds and we are 15 yards ahead, which means we have better chance of getting that feild goal or TD....

I hate that refs are targeting a hard hitting Sean Taylor... totally crap![/QUOTE]I have to totally agree with that...I just don't get the refs at all. What ever happened to being objective? I honestly think they were waiting for Taylor to make the controversial call. That play on Lloyd was crap.

onlydarksets 09-12-2006 08:34 AM

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[quote=CanadianSkin;214086]My one big question was, they give Taylor a pentaly for hitting a defenseless reciever, yet Lloyd goes up to get a ball and their safety hits him in the back of the head with a forearm yet nothing is called? That saves us 20 seconds and we are 15 yards ahead, which means we have better chance of getting that feild goal or TD....

I hate that refs are targeting a hard hitting Sean Taylor... totally crap![/quote]


I'll "third" that - ST's call was questionable (I haven't seen a good replay, but it looked like he was in the air at the time the ball got to the receiver), but it seems the calls always go against him. The noncall was indefensible, IMO.

Twilbert07 09-12-2006 08:45 AM

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The only reason Sean Taylor is a marked man is because of his own stupidity. When he spit on that Tampa Bay player in the playoffs last year, he guaranteed that he'll be flagged on every close play for years to come, and it cost us dearly last night.

jbcjr14 09-12-2006 08:53 AM

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I thought ST was slow last night. He was late on several deep balls and in the first drive where Rumph got beat on the right side, he looked up at ST like "Where the hell is my help deep?" Then the stupid face mask, just stupid. I don't buy the marked man theory...and he better get his head out of his ass and lead this team because nobody else stepped up on that side of the ball.

onlydarksets 09-12-2006 08:57 AM

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[quote=Twilbert07;214198]The only reason Sean Taylor is a marked man is because of his own stupidity. When he spit on that Tampa Bay player in the playoffs last year, he guaranteed that he'll be flagged on every close play for years to come, and it cost us dearly last night.[/quote]

That's probably true, although, if Rogers had made the tackle, Taylor wouldn't have had the facemask.

Twilbert07 09-12-2006 08:59 AM

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[quote=onlydarksets;214212]That's probably true, although, if Rogers had made the tackle, Taylor wouldn't have had the facemask.[/quote]

Good point. Michael Wilbon takes Carlos to task in his column this morning.

Monkeydad 09-12-2006 11:25 AM

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7201/news;_ylt=AnoVBye7TicXlUdkJenHiZr.uLYF]Jason Campbell - Washington Redskins - News - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Can anyone explain why Campbell was inactive? Is it just because of the "Collins finishes games, Campbell starts games" backup plan?

SmootSmack 09-12-2006 11:29 AM

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[QUOTE=Buster;214290][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7201/news;_ylt=AnoVBye7TicXlUdkJenHiZr.uLYF]Jason Campbell - Washington Redskins - News - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Can anyone explain why Campbell was inactive? Is it just because of the "Collins finishes games, Campbell starts games" backup plan?[/QUOTE]

I believe so

EXoffender 09-12-2006 01:14 PM

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[quote=atbrightwell;214004]Their is no way the Skins will beat Dallas if they play like that. I don't think we will be seeing any 4th quarter magic again, the skins will most likely drop to 0-2.[/quote]
Dude. Get outta here with that.

EXoffender 09-12-2006 01:17 PM

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[quote=Twilbert07;214198]The only reason Sean Taylor is a marked man is because of his own stupidity. When he spit on that Tampa Bay player in the playoffs last year, he guaranteed that he'll be flagged on every close play for years to come, and it cost us dearly last night.[/quote]
As long as he responds in the right way, his repetoire with the officials will get better. He's no Roy Williams.


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