Apparently we will never win a SB.
 

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While I wont argue that Snyder does some dubious things this guy also makes some statements that he can't support.

"Snyder has always cared more about which A-lister is sitting where in his box. The welfare of the league, small markets, salary cap manifestations. Forget it. He's not interested."

Um... not even sure where the whole A-lister thing is coming from but I do know that the main reason the CBA got done was because Snyder LED the way for the big market teams. He did so without fanfare and never got publicly involved but there been several articles that eluded to the fact that owners like J. Jones and B. Kraft followed SNYDER's lead when it came to compromise. I think you can't say he doesn't care about the league.

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Was I at the right game? Somehow losing by 3 points to a decent team is getting "embarassed".

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I got about 3 paragraphs into that and had to stop reading because that guy seems like a world-class douchebag. Obviously he has a personal thing against Snyder that he can't get over. He's not worth wasting my time.

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Also I thought Snyder has and always will be a REDSKINS fan thats why he bought the team. Hell if any of us had his money wouldn't you buy the Redskins. As far as not caring about the league where his team plays in, that is a ludicrious statement that this guy has no buissness making. ( Besides I think he is a Cowboys fan who exercises his bias against our franchise nationally ) F@@K HIM!!

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all you guys have art monk avatars, so I thought I'd mix it up. :)

anyone who disses snyder probably doesn't realize he'll do almost anything to improve the team (sometimes his judgement is off, but his intentions are good)

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;214834]Was I at the right game? Somehow losing by 3 points to a decent team is getting "embarassed".[/QUOTE]

Maybe my reading skills have diminished but I didnt see where the article said the redskins were embarassed.

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"It is no shock that the Minnesota Vikings, not a great group, post-Pornoboat scandal and all, embarrassed Snyder's football team in the home opener."

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[quote=irish;214845]Maybe my reading skills have diminished but I didnt see where the article said the redskins were embarassed.[/quote]

Page 2 of the article.

EDIT: I had trouble posting for a while, and didn't see FRPLG's post.

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I hate self-proclaimed "so-called" Redskin fans that get all bent out of shape and panic 1 week....AN I REPEAT 1 WEEK into the 2007 season. I bet last year you jumped ship way before the team went on there winning streak late in the season only to jump back on the band wagon when they entered the playoffs. You are a joke...and I'm talking to FRPLG and only him. How can you say we got embarrassed when we lost a hard fought game by 3 points? True fans stick with their team and don't bash them after a week 1 loss. I gaurentee your mind will change if we win this week againts the Cowboys.

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[quote=Skins&PsuFAN4LIFE;214857]I hate self-proclaimed "so-called" Redskin fans that get all bent out of shape and panic 1 week....AN I REPEAT 1 WEEK into the 2007 season. I bet last year you jumped ship way before the team went on there winning streak late in the season only to jump back on the band wagon when they entered the playoffs. You are a joke...and I'm talking to FRPLG and only him. How can you say we got embarrassed when we lost a hard fought game by 3 points? True fans stick with their team and don't bash them after a week 1 loss. I gaurentee your mind will change if we win this week againts the Cowboys.[/quote]

Wow, you're gonna feel real stupid in a second...

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;214858]Wow, you're gonna feel real stupid in a second...[/QUOTE]

That's hilarious. He'll have to start a "I'm sorry FRPLG. I can't read" thread

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TO FRPLG

In Gibbs we trust

we will win SB sooner

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If Georgia Frontier can win a Superbowl, anybody can win a Superbowl. ...certainly Snyder can.

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Apparently people just go by headlines. But I can understand, it is tough to read back through all 11 previous posts.

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I forgot to copy and paste what I wrote to that tool, but I basically told him he was an IDIOT. This guys facts are way off. Snyder lead the charge in getting the owners, the big market owners, to give MORE money to the small market teams. I think the dude is jealous of snyder. everything seemed to be about his money, or the friends he kept, or who was sitting in his box, what businesses he has. Who wouldn't want to work for an owner that goes and gets you the player you want, or you think will help the team win. that is rediculous. I told him, he was never a Redskin fan, and frankly we didn't need him. We have 91K plus screamming fans every home game and 1 tool missing wouldn't make any difference.

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;214869]Apparently people just go by headlines. But I can understand, it is tough to read back through all 11 previous posts.[/QUOTE]

Well, if you can take the time to openly call someone out like that...

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they look for any reason to bash the redskins

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If Georgia Frontier can win a Superbowl, any owner can win a Superbowl.

...and any Redskin fan that put his gear away 'cause the owner spends too much money on players isn't a real Redskin fan.

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[QUOTE=Skins&PsuFAN4LIFE;214857]I hate self-proclaimed "so-called" Redskin fans that get all bent out of shape and panic 1 week....AN I REPEAT 1 WEEK into the 2007 season. I bet last year you jumped ship way before the team went on there winning streak late in the season only to jump back on the band wagon when they entered the playoffs. You are a joke...and I'm talking to FRPLG and only him. How can you say we got embarrassed when we lost a hard fought game by 3 points? True fans stick with their team and don't bash them after a week 1 loss. I gaurentee your mind will change if we win this week againts the Cowboys.[/QUOTE]
Ummm...wow.

I would respond but I don't think it is nice to pick on the mentally challenged.

Oh screw it...READ YOU DUMB SH*T!!

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[quote=Skins&PsuFAN4LIFE;214857]I hate self-proclaimed "so-called" Redskin fans that get all bent out of shape and panic 1 week....AN I REPEAT 1 WEEK into the 2007 season. I bet last year you jumped ship way before the team went on there winning streak late in the season only to jump back on the band wagon when they entered the playoffs. You are a joke...and I'm talking to FRPLG and only him. How can you say we got embarrassed when we lost a hard fought game by 3 points? True fans stick with their team and don't bash them after a week 1 loss. I gaurentee your mind will change if we win this week againts the Cowboys.[/quote] FRPLG did not say what your trashing him for it was a quote from the article this thread was about. I had to tell him.

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Another Snyder hating article.

Must be a slow news day.

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[quote=firstdown;214892]FRPLG did not say what your trashing him for it was a quote from the article this thread was about. I had to tell him.[/quote]


Maybe the guy doesn't read/speak English. Maybe he has his own language. Let's try this:

Boowin inda wind

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[quote=paulskinsfan;214897]Maybe the guy doesn't read/speak English. Maybe he has his own language. Let's try this:

Boowin inda wind[/quote] Maybe he just missed the " " and thought he was protecting his team. I'd give him a by on this one but he should read a little closer before he attacks someone.

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I'd say he didn't read at all from what I can tell.

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It's the rant that sank him. You can be wrong when you call someone out, but you have to be right if you expect to call an established member of the community names.

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He added some much needed levity to the past couple of days

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hey, tafkas. hows it hangin?

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Post whores ;)

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Shoot, now I'm one too.

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are not

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lol :D

EDIT: dammit - it's like an addiction. Where's [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/14310-apparently-we-will-never-win-sb.html#post214857"]Skins&PsuFAN4LIFE[/URL] to set me straight?

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[QUOTE=dmek25;214916]hey, tafkas. hows it hangin?[/QUOTE]

Slightly to the left....wait, what?

Chillin. Anxious to get out of here for the day

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" TomKat's appearance at the Minnesota-Washington game exemplifies why Snyder will never win a championship. Never, ever, never. That is the most stone cold lock of a football guarantee ever made."

What?? Sportswriters who make predictions like that have some telepathic link to the future are just stupid. It's called how to set yourself up to look like an idiot at some point.

Overall sounds like a 2-page rant by a guy who's mad that Snyder has made more money than he ever will. I never understood bashing the rich - Snyder, Bill Gates, whoever - just because they're rich. They've suceeded at a level that few people ever will and have obviously accomplished a lot - why bash 'em because they've succeeded?

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Paris Hilton is rich but she still deserves to be mocked constantly.

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[quote=Skins&PsuFAN4LIFE;214857]I hate self-proclaimed "so-called" Redskin fans that get all bent out of shape and panic 1 week....AN I REPEAT 1 WEEK into the 2007 season. I bet last year you jumped ship way before the team went on there winning streak late in the season only to jump back on the band wagon when they entered the playoffs. You are a joke...and I'm talking to FRPLG and only him. How can you say we got embarrassed when we lost a hard fought game by 3 points? True fans stick with their team and don't bash them after a week 1 loss. I gaurentee your mind will change if we win this week againts the Cowboys.[/quote]

Amen

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;214842]all you guys have art monk avatars, so I thought I'd mix it up. :)

anyone who disses snyder probably doesn't realize he'll do almost anything to improve the team (sometimes his judgement is off, but his intentions are good)[/quote]


apparently you and i werent on the planet earth together when snyder took over the redskins. allow me to refresh your memory. Why the late jack kent cooke didnt leave this team to his son still boggles my mind. Ok snyder assumed control late in 1999 which it was too late for him to screw with team but anyway for those of you who dont remember that was the last year we won the divison and had a home playoff game against the lions which we won and went on to play tampa in tampa and had a chance to win the game at the end but there was a bad snap and the kick was never attempted. In the offseason that year i think he signed deion sanders, bruce smith, mark carrier, and jeff george. Deion, mark, and jeff had past the prime of their careers and so for that matter had bruce smith. I think we finished 7-9 that year. The following season after losing to the cowboys here tore turner a new one and shortly there after fired turner. we were 7-6 at that point and had shot at the playoffs even after the dallas loss. Then came marty who wanted total control of the team which snyder gave him and yes we started 0-5 but i think we ended up 8-8 and we were really turning a corner.But that arrogant asshole, who knows nothing about football couldnt handle not having his hands on the team and couldnt leave well enough alone and fired marty and brought that arrogant ass steve spurrier here and we know what happened with that. So let me fast forward to now he brought gibbs back in here and he(gibbs) has turned the thing around. I realize we had a pretty good season last year and had we had a couple more weapons we might have beat seattle. But the free wheeling and throwings millions at free agents didnt work in 2000 and the verdict is still out on this season. Dan Synder has not business doing anything for the redskins but signing checks and cheering his ass off from the owners box. let the football people make the football decisions and let the owners make owner decisions. Period. Dan Snyder may have all the money in the world but he knows nothing about running a football team. I bet the late JKC is rolling over in his grave at what snyder has done to this pround organization. I am redskin fan through and through so dont get any of this wrong. My point is Dan Snyder is only good at one thing signing the paychecks period. Not making any personnel decisions. I am not saying all of the free agent signings this offseason were all his doings but he threw the money at them. Money cant buy everything. It cant buy unity and it cant buy a superbowl.

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oh....my....god...reading that was like listening to the MicroMachines guy in the 80s.

You make a lot of good points, but ignore the fact that Snyder appears to be doing exactly what you suggest is the only thing he is good at - writing checks. I don't think anyone would argue that Snyder tried to micromanage the organization in his first years here. Now, however, Gibbs is in charge of personnel, and Danny-boy writes the checks. Snyder still has [U]some[/U] say, but Gibbs is calling the shots.

Again, you point out a lot of things that were legitimate gripes about Snyder three years ago, but it's a much different power structure now.

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But Snyder does make the owner decisions, and the football people (Gibbs, Ceratto, Saunders, Williams, Riddick, Mattyk, whoever else) make the football decisions. Gibbs and co. never have to wonder will they get what they want because Snyder gives them whatever they feel they need to win.

He has admitted he made mistakes in the past and he's matured and changed his ways. So I don't know if you're saying after one game that we can call our offseason acquisitions busts and just blame Snyder or if you're still upset about something that happened 6 years ago.

Either way, ask yourself this. Would you rather he just sat on his ass and didn't put any efforts into the team and said no to repeated requests from the coaching staff to open his checkbook?

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;214994]oh....my....god...reading that was like listening to the MicroMachines guy in the 80s.

You make a lot of good points, but ignore the fact that Snyder appears to be doing exactly what you suggest is the only thing he is good at - writing checks. I don't think anyone would argue that Snyder tried to micromanage the organization in his first years here. Now, however, Gibbs is in charge of personnel, and Danny-boy writes the checks. Snyder still has [U]some[/U] say, but Gibbs is calling the shots.

Again, you point out a lot of things that were legitimate gripes about Snyder three years ago, but it's a much different power structure now.[/QUOTE]

You beat me to it I see. Snyder said it was all FRPLG's fault so let's just blame him ;)

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No man you wrong. Snyder has the final vote on personnel decisions. He can overrule gibbs. You really think gibbs put his stamp of approval on all of these free agents we aquired this offseason? I beg to differ. But that is just my humble opinion. He is doing more than just signing the checks.