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We're 0-2 and only 1 game out of first.

Only 1 division game down, still 5 to go. All is not lost even though things seem pretty damn bleak right now.

That being said we need to get on track and FAST.

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People seem to think we're the only 0-2 team in the NFL, but has anyone seen how awful the Bucs have looked? I'll bet they wished they had Griese now. Or how about everyone's SB pick, the Panthers. Those guys are 0-2 as well.

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dude i dont care about the rest of the nfl our team is about on par with the raiders we look poor in just about every aspect

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[quote=TAFKAS;216420]People seem to think we're the only 0-2 team in the NFL, but has anyone seen how awful the Bucs have looked? I'll bet they wished they had Griese now. Or how about everyone's SB pick, the Panthers. Those guys are 0-2 as well.[/quote]

How about we just focus on our team........and F*** the other teams, because I dont my there merchandise and i dont cheer for them...., to everyone who said it was stupid to give up on Brunell, get you heads out your butt holes......the deepest ball he threw and completed was 15 yards......15 F***ing yards are you kidding.........shit, yea.......lets stick with #8 :goodjob:

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[quote=Mattyk72;216412]We're 0-2 and only 1 game out of first.

Only 1 division game down, still 5 to go. All is not lost even though things seem pretty damn bleak right now.

That being said we need to get on track and FAST.[/quote]

Should the unlikely event we reclaim the division and make it to the playoffs I will mail you a gift certificate or let you chose a home game you would like to accompany me with next year. But seriously, I love you for mentioning there is a bright side, but save the talk man. That bright side is the season,morale,hopes,chances of the team, city,and playoff likelihood going up in flames. And that is truth. Never have I looked more forward to being wrong and in debted but be for real. All it takes is one player in there to have a doubt or suspicion. 0-2, this team does not believe anymore in themsleves and mgt.

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[QUOTE=MightyJoeGibbs;216468]Should the unlikely event we reclaim the division and make it to the playoffs I will mail you a gift certificate or let you chose a home game you would like to accompany me with next year. But seriously, I love you for mentioning there is a bright side, but save the talk man. That bright side is the season,morale,hopes,chances of the team, city,and playoff likelihood going up in flames. And that is truth. Never have I looked more forward to being wrong and in debted but be for real. All it takes is one player in there to have a doubt or suspicion. 0-2, this team does not believe anymore in themsleves and mgt.[/QUOTE]

How do you know they don't believe in themselves anymore? This another one of your gut feelings that will be revealed in due time?

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[quote=TAFKAS;216472]How do you know they don't believe in themselves anymore? This another one of your gut feelings that will be revealed in due time?[/quote]

Yes, due time being Week1 and 2. They shape changed the offense with Al(everyyear is rotating door) for coaches, players. I saw a crazy stat at Minn. game that said of the 22 Pro Bowlers brought in since 1990 they never produced and made it to the Pro Bowl with us. That is terrible. Bias voting aside not 1 guy. Im upset I believe it every damn year.

But I know football man, do you think by midseason with production like this even a QB changed, mathematical certainty if playoffs is out of the question players wont second guess all the effort in the offseason and hard work put in that they can get it down? Thats where Im coming from. The defense isnt even middle of the pack in rankings and to have the offense struggle and is this impotent you think they will believe in themselves. Has there ever been a case of losers who believe in themselves. The glue that prevented us from that last year was these guys who got results and fought there way out. Taf- Im not seeing how they can turn it around unless Jason has the smarts and fortune like Roethilisburger did. Im the biggest debbie downer here but I also see what is going on.

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We have problems on offense and defense. Last year the problems were offense early on. This year we couldn't cover a 3rd down pass if we were getting paid to do so! All facets need to tighten up. Bet Saunders didn't sleep much nor did Gibbs. I bet Brunell had a crappy BDAY. I'll tell ya I had a crappy Brunell bday. I still believe but we gotta make it happen. Best we can finish is 14-2 and we got rough schedule ahead. Springs and Portis should help in wk4 but don't count on them to save our team if we can't produce in other areas...

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22 penalties for 117 yards, and 2-14 on 3rd down...that sucks sooo bad.

I think we've found out over the last two games how important Portis is to the offense, and how important Springs is to the defense. Obviously 22 penalties can't be attributed to either of those guys, but it's pretty clear the offense and defense are almost worthless without them.

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maybe sometimes coaches egos get in the way of coaching? we let bledsoe just sit back there all game because we keep telling ourselves that kenny wright and mike rumph cant cover anyone. this is not the aggressive style that made our d a top ten defense the last couple of years. and why cant our line block anymore?

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After week one I looked at the schedule again. With the way we have played, I can see us going 5-6 again and having our backs against the wall. By then, if we are healthy, I think we will be ready to go on another 5 game tear and win the division at 10-6. (3 tough games at home, 2 so-so games on the road).

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[quote=mheisig;216561]22 penalties for 117 yards, and 2-14 on 3rd down...that sucks sooo bad.[/quote]

I agree that is bad, but those refs were throwing flags at everything (both teams). They seemed to be on some kind of yellow flag mission.

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[quote=dmek25;216562]maybe sometimes coaches egos get in the way of coaching? we let bledsoe just sit back there all game because we keep telling ourselves that kenny wright and mike rumph cant cover anyone. this is not the aggressive style that made our d a top ten defense the last couple of years. and why cant our line block anymore?[/quote]

besides that run in december, that was how they've been blocking for the last two years :/.


I'm not sure the saunders/new shiny toys experiment is as super awesome as advertised. If brunell still looks this bad by half time in houston, give campbell a shot. that's a good game to see if he can do anything. I can't possibly see brunell leading anyone to a superbowl, and next year he'll be even older and more injury prone. So if we've got a window, let's see if we've got a QB to go with it.

trying not to over react, but that's a second terrible game where the offense and defense were both huge letdowns. We've earned our record thus far :/ hopefully it'll click like last year, but i think the offseason looks even more like an overreaction that failed to address the team's actual needs for window dressing.

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0-2 is way too early to give up. 14 games to go, 14! 5 division games to go!

All I can say is look back to last year. 5-6. The season appeared to be lost. I for one sure thought it was. The team turned it around. Anything is possible and it's a very long season.

Things can only improve from here on out.

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If there's any team to get on track against, it's the one coming up on Sunday.

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We might be only a game out of first, but we have no QB, and until we win a game, we're nothing.

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[quote=Mattyk72;216647]0-2 is way too early to give up. 14 games to go, 14! 5 division games to go!

All I can say is look back to last year. 5-6. The season appeared to be lost. I for one sure thought it was. The team turned it around. Anything is possible and it's a very long season.

Things can only improve from here on out.[/quote]

As you said, look back to 5-6 last year. That was our low point at 1 game below .500. This year we're aleady 2 games below .500 after only two games.

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[quote=Mattyk72;216647]0-2 is way too early to give up. 14 games to go, 14! 5 division games to go!

All I can say is look back to last year. 5-6. The season appeared to be lost. I for one sure thought it was. The team turned it around. Anything is possible and it's a very long season.

Things can only improve from here on out.[/quote]

from that 5-6, they lost to denver on the last play, they lost to tampa 36-35, they lost to SD one an OT broken tackle by the best running back in the NFL. 5-6 last year wasn't NEARLY as grim as these games have been thusfar.

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But look at how they won at Dallas and versus Seattle. It balances out.

[QUOTE=That Guy;216663]from that 5-6, they lost to denver on the last play, they lost to tampa 36-35, they lost to SD one an OT broken tackle by the best running back in the NFL. 5-6 last year wasn't NEARLY as grim as these games have been thusfar.[/QUOTE]

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i agree.

the team is looking bad but there isn't crap we can do except a slight post increase until sunday.

i'm glad we're playing a crappy team in houston bc a win can go a long way.

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[quote=Mattyk72;216647]0-2 is way too early to give up. 14 games to go, 14! 5 division games to go!

All I can say is look back to last year. 5-6. The season appeared to be lost. I for one sure thought it was. The team turned it around. Anything is possible and it's a very long season.

Things can only improve from here on out.[/quote]

I agree its early, but much like our preseason, it is hard to not press when the team is looking this bad.
If we were 0-2 and we did better from week one to week two it would not be so bad, but god did we ever regress. Sure the Cowyboys are probably better then Minny, but we made them look like the steal curtain.
I don't know if we looked this bad during all of 2004.

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And 0-2 hurts more because we're 0-1 in the division and 0-2 in the conference:

Chew on this for a while: The two biggest reasons the Redskins made the playoffs last season were their 5-1 division and 10-2 conference records. (They got swept by the AFC West.) They're now 0-1 in the division and 0-2 in the conference. So obviously, they're going to have to find another formula this year -- net touchdowns or something.

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I assumed that the offense was going to start off a little slow and weren't going to have a lot of rhythm early in the season - but the defense is more worrisome for me. Does not having springs impact the defensive performance that much ?

I thought that the defense would need to win the games early on, but they just aren't that strong right now.

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I waited 8 months for this and there is no way i am giving up after 2 weeks. We were 5-6 and we won 5 straight and 3 of those were in the division.

We were 2-0 a few years ago under spurrier; hot damn that turned out well didn't it?

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Relax everyone, this is just the coaches keeping the scheme bland and vanilla, so they don't reveal too much...

The thing that really struck me from the game last night was how much pressure they got on Brunell. Campbell wouldn't have done any better facing that sort of rush. Both Skins lines have been outplayed through two games. If they can't step it up against the Texans, we know we have serious problems.

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Like many of you I have been anxiously awaiting the start of the season. I must say the Redskins are looking pathetic. I am not a fan of Mark Brunnel. I keep asking myself What Did This Team do in the Offseason. We need a QB and fast or it will be a painful season. No I'm not a fair weather fan. I've been following this team for over 40 years. M. B. under or over threw his open receivers ALL NIGHT long last night a and even against the Vikings. Based on ehat I have seen (and it hurts me to say so) take the Texans and bet the spread. Does this look like a $2M dollar offense to anyone. So what Portis is hurt if we only have 1 player then let's fold up and go home. Where is the Pride?

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[quote=BigSKINBauer;216831]I waited 8 months for this and there is no way i am giving up after 2 weeks. We were 5-6 and we won 5 straight and 3 of those were in the division.

We were 2-0 a few years ago under spurrier; hot damn that turned out well didn't it?[/quote]

I don't think anyone's giving up. We're just very concerned because this is a playoff team that picked up several players, and we're moving backward.

We need to remind Brunell that Lloyd and Randel El - and NOT Mr. Sideline and The Ground - are the newest addition to our receiving corps.

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I knew we'd be in this position after the devistating Minnesota loss. Here's what I have to say:

My preseason projection was 12-4. The loss to Dallas was projected in that 4. The Minnesota game was not. To be 12-4 and in position for HFA, they must now win a game that I have projected them to lose (Jacksonville (1-0, tonight pending), at Philadelphia (1-1), at Tampa Bay (0-2)), as well as take care of all the other opponents. It's very doable. I know it looks grim right now, but when you think about it, we played good enough to beat the Vikings (who have proved themselves a good team), and the Dallas game wont matter to anyone in two weeks.

Chins up Redskins fans.

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[quote=Mattyk72;216412]We're 0-2 and only 1 game out of first.

Only 1 division game down, still 5 to go. All is not lost even though things seem pretty damn bleak right now.

That being said we need to get on track and FAST.[/quote]

And thank the Good Lord for it, and the Giants too. Fight on, Fight on.. this team isn't a Redskins team unless it's fights!

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Let's face it, this is a team who's goal is to win a SB. So its pretty dissappointing. Its not that we are 0-2 its that this is isn't a SB, playoff caliber team (at this point). I'll save this for the brunell thread but brunell is not the guy to take us to the superbowl.

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One thing I'm confident about, no one on this team will take on the attitude of Roy Williams. No, not that one, this [URL="http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2592484&name=FPT-2592484-091812&srvc=sz"]one[/URL]

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[quote=Twilbert07;216812]And 0-2 hurts more because we're 0-1 in the division and 0-2 in the conference:

Chew on this for a while: The two biggest reasons the Redskins made the playoffs last season were their 5-1 division and 10-2 conference records. (They got swept by the AFC West.) They're now 0-1 in the division and 0-2 in the conference. So obviously, they're going to have to find another formula this year -- net touchdowns or something.[/quote]

Reading this almost has me in tears... :( We all had such high hopes for this year, including Joe Gibbs... I'm very sad... :(

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[quote=number21isabadman;216424]dude i dont care about the rest of the nfl our team is about on par with the raiders we look poor in just about every aspect[/quote]

We're not even close the the Raiders. Oakland is on par with the Rice Owls.

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[quote=TAFKAS;216951]One thing I'm confident about, no one on this team will take on the attitude of Roy Williams. No, not that one, this [URL="http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2592484&name=FPT-2592484-091812&srvc=sz"]one[/URL][/quote]

I can't blame him for saying the score doesn't matter...he's on the Detriot Lions! You HAVE to say that if you're on the Lions or you'll lock yourself in a bathroom stall and cry at halftime of every game.

The Lions have plenty of reasons to celebrate first downs too.


:Flush:

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[quote=redsk1;216935]Let's face it, this is a team who's goal is to win a SB. So its pretty dissappointing. Its not that we are 0-2 its that this is isn't a SB, playoff caliber team (at this point). I'll save this for the brunell thread but brunell is not the guy to take us to the superbowl.[/quote]

I'll still say that we have a better chance with Brunell than Campbell right now.

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[QUOTE=Buster;217071]I can't blame him for saying the score doesn't matter...he's on the Detriot Lions! You HAVE to say that if you're on the Lions or you'll lock yourself in a bathroom stall and cry at halftime of every game.

The Lions have plenty of reasons to celebrate first downs too.


:Flush:[/QUOTE]

I loved how last week after they scored 6 points he said "It's crazy how close we came to scoring 40 points!"

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;216951]One thing I'm confident about, no one on this team will take on the attitude of Roy Williams. No, not that one, this [URL="http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2592484&name=FPT-2592484-091812&srvc=sz"]one[/URL][/QUOTE]
I talked to a drunk homeless guy outside of Union Station on Saturday that made more sense than roy williams.

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[quote=TAFKAS;217075]I loved how last week after they scored 6 points he said "It's crazy how close we came to scoring 40 points!"[/quote]


:cheeky-sm:Flush::smashfrea:goodjob::lol::silly::hitfan::laughing2:laughing-:towel::iamwithst:party-smi



I forgot about that. Classic...

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[QUOTE=redsk1;216935]Let's face it, this is a team who's goal is to win a SB. So its pretty dissappointing. Its not that we are 0-2 its that this is isn't a SB, playoff caliber team (at this point).[/QUOTE]

I agree. We look terrible right now.

And this is exactly why that Vikings game was so big. Had we won that game we could have regrouped and come out of Houston 2-1 with our heads high.

Now we're in big trouble and if we lose Sunday our season is over.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;217111]I agree. We look terrible right now.

And this is exactly why that Vikings game was so big. Had we won that game we could have regrouped and come out of Houston 2-1 with our heads high.

Now we're in big trouble and if we lose Sunday our season is over.[/quote]

Yeah, ever since they switched to this 5-game season, it really made things tough!