Who is available next year (qb)?
 

OK, assuming Brunell continues to suck, and Campbell is not the answer (hoping that's not the case, but humor me) who is scheduled to be a free agent, or possibly available via trade (realistically) come season's end?

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doesn't matter. Next year it's either MB or JC. That is as stone cold of a lock as possible.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;218574]doesn't matter. Next year it's either MB or JC. That is as stone cold of a lock as possible.[/QUOTE]

I completely disagree. None of us thought Brunell would suck this hard, call it a hard play book, call it over the hill syndrome, but sucking is sucking. It is not a far fetched idea to think of Campbell sucking as well. Remember Ramsey?
So who will be available next year?

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if we go get someone else, and its not just a back up role...then this organization is run by a bunch of idiots

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;218578]if we go get someone else, and its not just a back up role...then this organization is run by a bunch of idiots[/QUOTE]

How so?
We have had one constant issue since our previous super bowls...lack of a decent QB.
Minus Brad Johnson, we have had no good leaders. I'd love to see Campbell succeed, but if he can't, we need to entertain the thought of a proven good QB. The odds of winning without one is slim.

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[quote=jsarno;218573]OK, assuming Brunell continues to suck, and Campbell is not the answer (hoping that's not the case, but humor me) who is scheduled to be a free agent, or possibly available via trade (realistically) come season's end?[/quote]

Jeff George

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;218583]Jeff George[/QUOTE]


Ring the bell.

If we hadn't shoved Brad out the door, we might have won a few more games with Marty, and never had the whole Spurrier era.

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Jason Campbell hasn't played a full regular season game yet. We have no idea whether he will succeed or not. I'm sure if Brunell continues to play poorly, Joe Gibbs will start Jason Campbell to see what he's capable of. Let's say he starts in mid-season and stinks up the place. Don't you think we should give him at least one more year to prove himself?

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Regardless of how MB plays i dont think you see JC unless there is an injury. And after watching the cowboy game and better yet the viking game again I really truly believe there is some sort of injury with Brunnell. Something is off in the knees or possibly a hamstring. All of the throws in both of those games lack a whole lot of velocity it looks to me like either he is hurt...and your legs are important to throwing a football with any kind of velocity...or he has lost some throwing strength. Dont forget year 1 of MB's tenure here when he was hurt. I say lets see what happens in the first half @HOU and if similar results i say play JC. What do we have to lose?

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quinn and troy smith are the 1 and 1a in the draft. then there's FA and trades, but we won't see enough of campbell between now and then to warrant drafting a QB (unless it' late). We may bring in a better veteran guy though.

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We could always ask Patrick back??ummmmmmmmm............no.

Matt Shaub, UFA, Atl. Falcons
Chris Simms, UFA, Tampa Bucs
Rohan Davey, RFA, Arizona Cardinals
Shaun King, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
John Navarre, RFA, Arizona Cardinals
Patrick Ramsey, UFA, New York Jets
Tim Rattay, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seneca Wallace, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
Anthony Wright, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals

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Word on the streets is Mark Brunell might be available after this season. Something about not doing well with his current team. He's a little old, but I think he can step in until we hand J.C. the reins.

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[quote=mooby;218606]Word on the streets is Mark Brunell might be available after this season. Something about not doing well with his current team. He's a little old, but I think he can step in until we hand J.C. the reins.[/quote]

lol - good one!

[quote=skinnyfan]Matt Shaub, UFA, Atl. Falcons
Chris Simms, UFA, Tampa Bucs
Rohan Davey, RFA, Arizona Cardinals
Shaun King, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
John Navarre, RFA, Arizona Cardinals
Patrick Ramsey, UFA, New York Jets
Tim Rattay, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seneca Wallace, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
Anthony Wright, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals[/quote]

Thanks! Nobody on that list jumps out at me. Simms I think had a flukey year last year (and it wasn't [u]that[/u] great), King had one [U]decent[/U] year, but that was with the Bucs like 7 years ago, Ramsey we know is out. I think Rattay never got a true shot in SF (he had a couple of half-seasons), so he might be interesting to check out. Didn't Wright miss a couple of seasons entirely? I don't know about the rest - is anyone a prospect?

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I'm hoping Campbell is the answer but how good would Brady Quinn look in a Redkins' uniform? I'd say he may be the most NFL ready QB to ever get drfted by the time he is done at ND because of Weis and Weis' offensive system....that kid is the next great NFL QB IMO, he's big, smart, mobile and has a strong accurate arm...coure he'll be long gone by the time we draft...can Snyder BUY the #1 pick...lol.

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JC is going to be our guy. But just for thought, Matt Schaub looks like he could be a good qb in the right system.

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Campbell will be the man.

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schaub won't be free and neither will seneca. we won't be promising an open QB competition either unless JC really stinks it up.

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Spending a first round draft choice on a QB is something that has a very high probability of failure. There are exceptions, but for the most part, the history is pretty clear.

It is a very real possibility that we could be in the market for two QBs next season.

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chris leak from florida gators,i watched chris leak beat the brakes off of every high school in north carolina for four years,what do we hav e to loose?Where is darryl green ,heck he cant be that out of shape.

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flordia gator qbs make awful pros. i think we have had all the gators we will ever need. got two word for you danny wuerfful

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Grossman looks like might be panning out.

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JC will be the man in D.C. until the wheels fall off, count on that.

In fact, unless Brunell has a miracle of a turn around, you can expect to see Campbell this year and kick off the '07 campaign.

Brunell isn't injured, that's pure speculation. He's just getting old.

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[quote=TrustinGibbs;218611]I'm hoping Campbell is the answer but how good would Brady Quinn look in a Redkins' uniform? [/quote]

He'd look like an Abercrombie & Fitch model. Not that I have anything against Abercrombie & Fitch models, but I'm not too big on them leading my home team. If he were a Redskin, we'd be forced to see shots of his girlfriends in the stands after every friggin offensive play. I'm sure some people wouldn't mind that, but I call it a distraction.

It's not that I think Brady Quinn will be particularly bad, but when a player is hyped as much as he is, before even taking a snap in the NFL, it doesn't usually turn out well.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;218576]I completely disagree. None of us thought Brunell would suck this hard, call it a hard play book, call it over the hill syndrome, but sucking is sucking. It is not a far fetched idea to think of Campbell sucking as well. Remember Ramsey?
So who will be available next year?[/QUOTE]
If Campbell does suck he will suck next year. There is not a single thing he could do performance wise to convince the coaches that he isn't going to be good. Even if Brunell goes down for the season this week and JC steps in and blows hard JC still gets the job next year. No doubt. He couldn't suck bad enough to lose the job for next year. Not possible.

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Who is available next year?

Back-up QBs with experience (although they may be super-smart) and college material that will have to ride the pine for three years no matter what their college hype happens to be.

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[quote=FRPLG;218682]If Campbell does suck he will suck next year. There is not a single thing he could do performance wise to wonvicne the coaches that he isn't going to be good. Even if Brunell goes down for the season this week and JC steps in and blows hard JC still gets the job next year. No doubt. He couldn't suck bad enough to lose the job for next year. Not possible.[/quote]

I totally agree.

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[quote=jsarno;218573]OK, assuming Brunell continues to suck, and Campbell is not the answer (hoping that's not the case, but humor me) who is scheduled to be a free agent, or possibly available via trade (realistically) come season's end?[/quote]

That, folks, it an example of jumping the gun.

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[quote=Mattyk72;218669]Grossman looks like might be panning out.[/quote]

I don't see him keeping this up all year. :)

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[quote=Buster;218688]I don't see him keeping this up all year. :)[/quote]

We'll see.

He certainly looks to be much improved and he has the weapons around him along with that nasty D.

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[QUOTE=Buster;218687]That, folks, it an example of jumping the gun.[/QUOTE]

This thread wasnt started to jump the gun, its not that bad of a question in my opinion.

Thank about it guys, two years ago Brunell was HORRIBLE, and we all wanted Ramsey to start next year, but he looked horrible when he was but it too. So we went from having the "QB of the future" in Ramsey, to nothing.

Go back even farther, when Ramsey was the "QB of the future" and we went out and got Brunell.

We're Redskins fans...weird shit happens. All of us know Gibbs prefers to win with vetern QBs. So if he cuts Brunell, theres a 99% chance he bring in a vetern to "compete with Jason, but Jason is our guy", just like he said with Ramsey.

So, this thread assumes Brunell sucks, and then Campbell comes in and doesnt look like an NFL QB....So my guess is we do not draft a QB, even if we have the first pick. We would get a vet, and draft dline or CB. Matt Shaub is an option but I think he'll be overhyped and expensive (not that Synder cares about either of those things).

I think Kurt Warner will probably be aviable because they wont pay him, they'll want to hand off the reigns to Leinert. Charlie Batch will probably be available. Brian Griese will be available, and istn a bad option. He could start right now but they want their young guy in there.

Jake Plummer will probably be available...
Either Losman or Holcome will be available...

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SkinsnCanes, to bring another quarterback into the equation at this point isn't only pre-mature, but senseless for a couple of reasons.

1. Jason Campbell, for all intent and purposes, hasn't played yet. We've seen spurts here and there, but not enough to be conclusive in my opinion. The jury is still out, and until he has beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I mean there is no question that he's not capable of starting in the NFL, this franchise will probably live and die with that decision. Literally!

2. The franchise has so much locked up in this kid, and why have his confidence shaken in the least bit by bringing in a new body. Probably a journey man at that.

When we brought in Brunell, it was for the most part thought of as, tops, a three to four year deal I think. He was never brought here to be the quarterback of the future, so to speak.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;218720]SkinsnCanes, to bring another quarterback into the equation at this point isn't only pre-mature, but senseless for a couple of reasons.

1. Jason Campbell, for all intent and purposes, hasn't played yet. We've seen spurts here and there, but not enough to be conclusive in my opinion. The jury is still out, and until he has beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I mean there is no question that he's not capable of starting in the NFL, this franchise will probably live and die with that decision. Literally!

2. The franchise has so much locked up in this kid, and why have his confidence shaken in the least bit by bringing in a new body. Probably a journey man at that.

When we brought in Brunell, it was for the most part thought of as, tops, a three to four year deal I think. He was never brought here to be the quarterback of the future, so to speak.[/QUOTE]

I know, and I agree. I think Campbell needs to play and we need to see what he has. I never said anything about our current QB situtation, I was just saying that whoever started this thread did so ASSUMING that Campbell and Brunell both play and suck, and wanted to know who would be available. Obviously I hope Burnell steps it up, retires, and then Campbell steps in and is the best QB the league has ever seen.

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We not only need to let Campbell play, but we need to let him play a full season AND begin another one to chart the progress from his "rookie" year of actually playing and his second year. If he still looks like he did in the first game, like Ramsey...try someone else.

Even Alex Smith looks better in his second year, although he still stinks.

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I like campbell!!! he has shown great arm strength and alot of untapped talent!! give him a few starts let him feel his way around and i gurantee u he is our QB for years to come!

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And campbell does not suck!! not even a little bit...he has great potential and alllot of talent....why are we even having this conversation...real issues are at hand

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[quote=SKINSnCANES;218725]I know, and I agree. I think Campbell needs to play and we need to see what he has. I never said anything about our current QB situtation, I was just saying that whoever started this thread did so ASSUMING that Campbell and Brunell both play and suck, and wanted to know who would be available. Obviously I hope Burnell steps it up, retires, and then Campbell steps in and is the best QB the league has ever seen.[/quote]

Agreed.

Quite frankly, I hope Brunell just retires this year

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So if Brunell decides to kick it up a notch...will you guys apologize to him??

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I'll be the first in line. Trust me, I won't the least bit upset if Brunell turns his game around.

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[quote=DaveyFoSho;218739]So if Brunell decides to kick it up a notch...will you guys apologize to him??[/quote]

Did they last year after his bad 2004 season?

I will admit I wanted to dump him in 2004, but he WAS battling injuries and wasn't himself. He proved that last season.

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How about if the whole offense turns it around along with Brunell? That's what needs to happen, improvement across the board.