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SKINS73 09-23-2006 10:58 AM

Antwaan Randle El
 
I know I've mentioned this in a couple of threads but I figured I'd start a new one to debate the issue. What if we tried Randle El at QB? His college resume isn't too bad and when things break down in the pocket he could make something happen. I pulled this from wikipedia:

He finished his college career as the fifth on the all-time NCAA total yardage list, and became the first player in college football history to record 2,500 total yards for four consecutive years. He finished his career with 7,469 passing yards, 3,895 rushing yards, and 86 touchdowns running and passing. He is considered to be the 2nd most statistically productive dual-threat quarterback to ever play college football.

MTK 09-23-2006 11:11 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
You mean full-time??

Not gonna happen.

There's a reason why he wasn't drafted as a QB. He's undersized, he really doesn't have the arm, and his talents are better utilized at WR.

dmek25 09-23-2006 11:16 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
i am not ready for him to take over at qb full time. but i am ready for alittle trickery from the offense

SKINS73 09-23-2006 11:18 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
Not full time but like a change up for something like a no huddle series. That would have to throw any defense off balance.

Beemnseven 09-23-2006 11:18 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
Maybe it's not a good idea to add this type of dimension to what is already considered a confusing offense, but I would like to see Randle El start taking a few snaps just to change things up -- not full time, mind you.

Just have him do what they've got Vick doing in Atlanta with great success. Get under center, fake to Portis, do some misdirection plays and QB draws here and there.

I can only assume Saunders has a few of these up his sleeve for later on. Right now though, running the basic stuff seems to have Brunell and others mystified.

SKINS73 09-23-2006 11:24 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
I watched him live when Penn State played Indiana and he has some insane moves. To use him only as a wide receiver is a travesty. I'm sure the Redskins have other plans for him, but can you imagine him under center faking a reverse to moss and running around the edge?

pg86 09-23-2006 10:47 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
Kordell Steward was a reciver and then did very well as a QB.....So why not try Randle El at it?!?

vaoutlaws2006 09-23-2006 10:56 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
he would be good at that shotgun option that atlanta uses with mike vick. but outside of some trickery i dont see that as a viable qb to use full time.

Schneed10 09-23-2006 11:01 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
This thread is absurd.

Daseal 09-24-2006 12:47 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
While I think the occassional play or two, or even drive (defenses game plan on certain QBs, that would certainly be unexpected) but not full time.

Darrell_Green_28 09-24-2006 04:49 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=pg86;219048]Kordell Steward was a reciver and then did very well as a QB.....So why not try Randle El at it?!?[/quote]
Kordell Stewart did well? now thats funny.

Monk-Fan 09-24-2006 05:00 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
Why would we use Randel El? If i remember right (being sarcastic) we drafted a QB and he is sitting on the bench, if we are going to play anyone else at QB it should be the one we will build our future around.

That Guy 09-24-2006 08:14 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
is this serious?

his arm is weak, he's incredibly short (which means lots of tipped balls and inaccurate throws since he can't see the field well), and he's not that accurate either. yeah, he had a good throw in the SB, but get real. trick plays usually leave someone wide open, so his throws thusfar have generally been into zero coverage.

SKINS73 09-24-2006 08:59 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[QUOTE=Monk-Fan;219075]Why would we use Randel El? If i remember right (being sarcastic) we drafted a QB and he is sitting on the bench, if we are going to play anyone else at QB it should be the one we will build our future around.[/QUOTE]


Don't use him as a franchise or permanent solution. But how confused would Jacksonville or Houston be if we started the game, no huddle, shotgun with Randle El under center? If our quarterback can't get him the ball for whatever reason use him in a capacity where he could have an impact. If it doesn't work throw Brunell in the next drive. Seriously, what could it hurt at this point? I mean we''re 6 for 27 on 3rd down conversions. We need something, anything.

vaoutlaws2006 09-24-2006 09:03 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=SKINS73;219097]Don't use him as a franchise or permanent solution. But how confused would Jacksonville or Houston be if we started the game, no huddle, shotgun with Randle El under center? If our quarterback can't get him the ball for whatever reason use him in a capacity where he could have an impact. If it doesn't work throw Brunell in the next drive. Seriously, what could it hurt at this point? I mean we''re 6 for 27 on 3rd down conversions. We need something, anything.[/quote]


I agree. I watched a highlight of Mike Vick in atlanta, now randel el is no mick vick, but the shotgun option they use would work or at least confuse a opponent

Beemnseven 09-24-2006 09:04 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[QUOTE=SKINS73;219097]Don't use him as a franchise or permanent solution. But how confused would Jacksonville or Houston be if we started the game, no huddle, shotgun with Randle El under center? If our quarterback can't get him the ball for whatever reason use him in a capacity where he could have an impact. If it doesn't work throw Brunell in the next drive. Seriously, what could it hurt at this point? I mean we''re 6 for 27 on 3rd down conversions. We need something, anything.[/QUOTE]

Bingo-bammo. Just shake things up a bit here and there. But I'd save it for the Jaguars. Let's see if we get the basics down pat for the Texans.

Schneed10 09-24-2006 10:43 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=SKINS73;219097]Don't use him as a franchise or permanent solution. But how confused would Jacksonville or Houston be if we started the game, no huddle, shotgun with Randle El under center? If our quarterback can't get him the ball for whatever reason use him in a capacity where he could have an impact. If it doesn't work throw Brunell in the next drive. Seriously, what could it hurt at this point? I mean we''re 6 for 27 on 3rd down conversions. We need something, anything.[/quote]

What we need is a running game that gives us 3rd and short so that we can do better than 6 for 27. You want to win, then get back to basics and run the ball with power, don't get fancier - that makes no sense. We don't need to try a bunch of backyard bullsh*t like playing Randle-El at QB. What we need is Portis giving us 2nd and 4 or 3rd and 1 on a routine basis.

EternalEnigma21 09-24-2006 11:04 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
I like the Idea, but I like the Idea of Randy Thomas playing QB better...

Think about it... who would want to sack him. He could just drop back and run the ball, or sling it real short becausae it would take the entire defense to tackle him and someone would have to be open.

We could just score on offensive fumble recoveries and win every game...

C'mon I'm a real stratagist here...

SKINS73 09-24-2006 11:32 AM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[QUOTE=canthetuna;219118]I like the Idea, but I like the Idea of Randy Thomas playing QB better...

Think about it... who would want to sack him. He could just drop back and run the ball, or sling it real short becausae it would take the entire defense to tackle him and someone would have to be open.

We could just score on offensive fumble recoveries and win every game...

C'mon I'm a real stratagist here...[/QUOTE]

That's the spirit!

vaoutlaws2006 09-24-2006 12:00 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
come on...with as anemic as this offense has been lets try anything. cant be any worse than what we have seen so far.

dall-assblows 09-24-2006 12:09 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
there's no way in hell

SKINS73 09-24-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[QUOTE=vaoutlaws2006;219127]come on...with as anemic as this offense has been lets try anything. cant be any worse than what we have seen so far.[/QUOTE]

Randle El under center with the wishbone formation of Portis, Duckett and Betts behind him.

Big C 09-24-2006 12:44 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[QUOTE=pg86;219048]Kordell Steward was a reciver and then did very well as a QB.....So why not try Randle El at it?!?[/QUOTE]

kordell had good size, randle el doesnt, and kordell had a big arm

MTK 09-24-2006 12:52 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
Kordell would have had a better career at WR if he stuck with that full time vs. QB.

Meast 09-24-2006 05:35 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;219052]This thread is absurd.[/QUOTE]
only after today do I second this motion

Schneed10 09-24-2006 11:46 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=Schneed10;219116]What we need is a running game that gives us 3rd and short so that we can do better than 6 for 27. You want to win, then get back to basics and run the ball with power, don't get fancier - that makes no sense. We don't need to try a bunch of backyard bullsh*t like playing Randle-El at QB. What we need is Portis giving us 2nd and 4 or 3rd and 1 on a routine basis.[/quote]

Quoting myself because I am not above saying I told you so.

Line up and run right at them. That's Redskin football. Redskin football is not playing Antwaan Randle-El at QB.

Monkeydad 09-25-2006 02:47 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=pg86;219048]Kordell Steward was a reciver and then did very well as a QB.....So why not try Randle El at it?!?[/quote]

No, Kordell was a QB at Colorado (threw the miracle pass to Westbrook to beat Michigan) but the Steelers put him at WR because he tanked as a pro QB but they still wanted to keep Slash's speed on the field somehow.

Randel El is better than Stewart ANY day.

I like the no-huddle Randel El at QB trick, but I hope he doesn't throw to Brunell! :D

Monkeydad 09-25-2006 02:48 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=Mattyk72;219139]Kordell would have had a better career at WR if he stuck with that full time vs. QB.[/quote]

He certainly couldn't have been WORSE at QB, so any other position he's playing would be better for his teams.

The hype was huge and he WAS exciting to watch for a few games, but only because of his running...not his passing.

hesscl34 09-25-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=SKINS73;218969]I know I've mentioned this in a couple of threads but I figured I'd start a new one to debate the issue. What if we tried Randle El at QB? His college resume isn't too bad and when things break down in the pocket he could make something happen. I pulled this from wikipedia:

He finished his college career as the fifth on the all-time NCAA total yardage list, and became the first player in college football history to record 2,500 total yards for four consecutive years. He finished his career with 7,469 passing yards, 3,895 rushing yards, and 86 touchdowns running and passing. He is considered to be the 2nd most statistically productive dual-threat quarterback to ever play college football.[/quote]

[COLOR=black]Are you joking? You really want the media to have a field day, don't you? Were you around during the first Gibbs era? Gibbs is all about building a TEAM. Putting people in a spot he feels they are the strongest, getting them to feel good in that spot, and getting the people around them to rely on them and TRUST them in that spot!! He wont' be doing any crazy rotating. That’s not how he works and that's not how he builds a team. GET REAL![/COLOR]
[COLOR=black] [/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]Brunell is here to STAY as our QB. Accept it![/COLOR]

SkinsTerps424 09-25-2006 03:12 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=Schneed10;219052]This thread is absurd.[/quote]

I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE!

Monkeydad 09-25-2006 03:15 PM

Re: Antwaan Randle El
 
[quote=Schneed10;219052]This thread is absurd.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet. :D


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