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Skins vs. Texans MVP
Our first MVP thread of the season!
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O-Line by far in my book...They really stepped up today...Kudos...especially interior line!!!!
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I'm going with o-line too, without them Portis and Brunell, and Betts, wouldn't have had good days. The penalties must stop though, if we were playing a good team it would've cost us.
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Portis gets mine. He really set the table and his TD run at the end of the half was the clincher.
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co-MVP here. Portis and Brunell
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gave it to the O-line (loved Dock's play today)... Portis, of course, was the ultimate difference in the way our offense played.
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[quote=Mattyk72;219481]Portis gets mine. He really set the table and his TD run at the end of the half was the clincher.[/quote]
But that HOLE Matty.....I think even Rock coulda run that 1...although there was that 1 great move to go back inside. Still, gotta give it to the boys in the middle. Maybe just because of the improvement from 1 week. Then again, add that shuffle pass....hmmmm...can i change my vote? haha |
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I voted for the off line,congrats to mark,but I am so sick of this dink and dunk shit i cant stand it,why do we have moss and lloyd? decoys? please,please,Saunders,just try 1 long pass to Moss a game,I dont think thats asking for much,not once in 3 games,thats a frickin joke
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Htown, I truly believe as the season builds so will our passing game. If we see just a tacit next week of what Brunell did today, I think we're on to something.
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portis. I think Betts deserves some accolades, though, and Marcus Washington had one hell of a game on Defense.
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[quote=htownskinfan;219494]I voted for the off line,congrats to mark,but I am so sick of this dink and dunk shit i cant stand it,why do we have moss and lloyd? decoys? please,please,Saunders,just try 1 long pass to Moss a game,I dont think thats asking for much,not once in 3 games,thats a frickin joke[/quote]
Why force the issue when you don't have to? The Skins absolutely did the right thing today. They established the run, they got some confidence going and most importantly they won the game. That's how we won 5 games in a row down the stretch last year to make the playoffs. |
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[quote=12thMan;219498]Htown, I truly believe as the season builds so will our passing game. If we see just a tacit next week of what Brunell did today, I think we're on to something.[/quote]
I think this is what we will see next week too. Especially against that D....was kinda surprised such dink dunk today, but aint broke......u know the rest. They never found an aswer to our blocking schemes on those plays! |
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Tough decision, but I give it to the offensive line because they don't get enough compliments. Now..just stop with the penalities!
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I've went with CP, the O-lines penalties stopped me voting for them and whilst Brunell had a recird setting day I think that without CP in there we just don't have the same game.
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Portis. Brunell dosent do what he does w/o Portis, bottom line. Brunell had a great day and wont take that from him, but Portis is the most VALUABLE one.
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[quote=htownskinfan;219494]I voted for the off line,congrats to mark,but I am so sick of this dink and dunk shit i cant stand it,why do we have moss and lloyd? decoys? please,please,Saunders,just try 1 long pass to Moss a game,I dont think thats asking for much,not once in 3 games,thats a frickin joke[/quote]
the point is though, when you've got athletes like Moss, Lloyd, and Randel El you don't need to throw the ball 50 yards downfield. With these guys 5 to 10 yd pass plays can easily and very often turn into big plays. |
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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;219494]I voted for the off line,congrats to mark,but I am so sick of this dink and dunk shit i cant stand it,why do we have moss and lloyd? decoys? please,please,Saunders,just try 1 long pass to Moss a game,I dont think thats asking for much,not once in 3 games,thats a frickin joke[/QUOTE]
Overall looking at the first 3 games as a whole, i'd agree. Need to take a few more shots... However, there was no reason to do it today. We were rolling with what was working, so I have no problems dinking and dunking it down the feild if its going to work. Again looking at the first 3 games, I'm in that boat too. Today though, no problems from me. |
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Portis, his peformance was outstanding. Brunell would get a close second and theO-line an even tighter 3rd. No surprise with Portis back we are better.
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Portis, no question. Everyone on the whole team plays better with him out there. He makes the o-line better because of his vision and speed, he opens up the passing game for Brunnell, and he even makes Betts better because the defense is not keying on him. And he's playing hurt.
He sets the tone for this team, from top to bottom. |
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where is betts on the list?
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o-line
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o-line, thats were it all starts.
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I would go with the O-Line, but for the holding penalties. I have to go Portis. It's not so much what he does as it is the way he puts the fear of God in to opposing defenses and defensive coordinators. Hats off to Brunell for his record. I know he wasn't slinging it down field but there have been alot of ball control passing teams (think Joe Montana) that never accomplished that feat.
I think there were some things in there the team can build on and a win is a win is a win. On the negative side that pass play to Johnson on the first defensive series looked eerily like the pass to Glenn last week. Fool me once, blah, blah, blah. Arch needs to get better in coverage. |
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Portis because of the momentum changing shuffle pass he carried for 75 yards.
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I don't know if it was the o-line playing better that made Portis look so irreplacable or if Brunell just doing a better job of getting the ball out accurately or if Portis playing well gave Brunell a little more time and wiggle room. I voted for the o-line but in retrospect I think Portis made the clearest upgrade for the offense.
The o-line looked better ut had too many penalties and really played a lackluster line. They go the job done and should be commended though. Brunell had the time to do what he can do. I think this shows that he hasn't been the real problem. Portis clearly brings so much more to the table than Betts. Betts is passable but Portis is obviously not only the center-piece but totally indispensable. Those who think he is a system back are crazy. The guy is as good as any back in the league. |
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Numerous time today Portis had runs where I thought..."well Betts would have gotten tackled earlier".
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clinton portis hands down. He is the franchise player on this team and he proved it once again. The run at the end of the first half sealed the deal. I liked the fact that he sat once the game was in hand. He would have had all the yard betts had if he continued to play. Resting the shoulder was the smart move. We are going to need CP to win this weekend. He opens everything up. CP you the man!!!!!
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everything on offense today was because of Portis. The o-line provides holes as always, but its Clinton who knows how to maximize them. Clinton set up Brunell, Betts, and a well rested defense as those 1st half stats kept showing.
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I think Betts should've been a choice.
I voted for Brunell, and would have anyway, but great game by both RBs. The O-line made it possible for Brunell, but they also got a crapload of penalties. You can't set an NFL record and not get some props. |
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The MVP was Al Saunders no ifs ands or butts. He called the perfect game today.
On the field it was Portis, no question. |
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Too many penalties by the O-line today, and I think you're forgetting they were playing the worst defense in the league.
Portis is the man that makes the whole thing go. Dude is tough. But Clinton, please don't hold the ball out unless you know you're going to get into the end zone. Now, if the O-line plays like that next week, I'll happily change my vote. |
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[quote=The Fun Bunch;219614]Too many penalties by the O-line today, and I think you're forgetting they were playing the worst defense in the league.
Portis is the man that makes the whole thing go. Dude is tough. But Clinton, please don't hold the ball out unless you know you're going to get into the end zone. Now, if the O-line plays like that next week, I'll happily change my vote.[/quote] He had complete control of the ball when he extended it. What's the problem? |
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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;219516]Overall looking at the first 3 games as a whole, i'd agree. Need to take a few more shots...
However, there was no reason to do it today. We were rolling with what was working, so I have no problems dinking and dunking it down the feild if its going to work. Again looking at the first 3 games, I'm in that boat too. Today though, no problems from me.[/QUOTE] yes,the off was clicking today,and brunell was almost perfect,but if everything is going so well why dont you throw a long pass at least once,it doesnt get any easier than the texans secondary,youve got to try it at least once |
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[quote=htownskinfan;219650]yes,the off was clicking today,and brunell was almost perfect,but if everything is going so well why dont you throw a long pass at least once,it doesnt get any easier than the texans secondary,youve got to try it at least once[/quote]
I would guess that they took the deep one away. That might explain the 240 yards rushing as well as the 20 or so short completions that Brunell had. |
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it's gotta be Portis not only for production but also for the energy and heart he adds to the offense. Brunell did a great job of managing the game and getting the passes to his playmakers, but almost all of his passes were within ten yards of the line of scrimmage. I would give the nod to the o-line if not for them accounting for almost half a dozen penalties.
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I go with Portis. He's the missing ingredient. When he's in, defenses must play the Redskins differently.
Brunell gets a lot of credit, too. He had a perfect day and should get credit for the accomplishment after all the heat he's been under. Go Skins! |
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The Houston Texans Defense and Offense for being so damn horrible........
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I woulda said the Oline, but there were too many penalties ... so, I said portis
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Definitely Portis. As others mentioned, the O-line played against the worst D in the universe. They did fine, but each guy on the line still managed to get a holding penalty. That's not going to fly against a better D. That said, the O line did manage to make Betts look like an unstoppable force...
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[quote=Mattyk72;219481]Portis gets mine. He really set the table and his TD run at the end of the half was the clincher.[/quote] The funny thing before that TD run I was upset they let so much time run off the clock and did not call a time out (we had two at the time) and let 25 sec's run off the clock between plays. I was just thinking that we needed to try and score a TD not just settle for a FG. Then he just blasted up the middle. Portis should have scored on that first long run and I think he would have if he cut left to the middle of the field and not right where he was run out of bounds.
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