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Winskins 09-25-2006 02:43 PM

Dockery Kicks it Up a Notch!
 
Derrick Dockery looked like he made some strides on Sunday. On one play in particular I remember Dockery tossing a d-lineman from Houston to the side like a ragdoll and taking on another block to spring a big run. I remember seeing him doing some more of that in the Houston game as well. I think, for the first time I remember, that he made a big step toward living up to that potential that Buge's is always talking about.

MTK 09-25-2006 02:44 PM

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Dock was a monster yesterday, no doubt.

FRPLG 09-25-2006 02:48 PM

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That is where he is best. In mauling run blocking. He did well. We had some other under the radar quality performances yesterday.

Sellers played well. Betts played well. Cooley blocked outstandingly. We didn't hear Carlos Rogers' name much. Washington was a beast as normal. Just about everyone reall excelled.

Winskins 09-25-2006 02:59 PM

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Betts definitely ran his a$$ off. I think that we're at our best when we have Portis and Betts tearin' it up and keeping each other fresh. Both of them put up some monster stats.

Schneed10 09-25-2006 03:11 PM

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Betts is a very average back. We've all said it before, solid #2 RB, but if he's your starter then your RB situation ain't great.

Put him behind a line that performed as well as the Skins did yesterday, and Betts can look pretty darn good. But Betts didn't suddenly get better. He just had mad space to run through. Dockery and Randy Thomas especially looked great. When it came to the run game, the line stepped up.

DaveyFoSho 09-25-2006 04:07 PM

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Bam!

DaveyFoSho 09-25-2006 04:07 PM

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One run i saw atleast one run..it was all betts...he had an awesome cutback and just outran the defenders....the hole closed!

JWsleep 09-25-2006 04:09 PM

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I thought ( as did everyone, I suppose), that the whole line played well. That was certainly in part a function of the Texans woeful front, but whatever. It should build confidence and chemistry. Our line excells when the blockers get to the second level and can crush LBs and DBs. And they have the talent to do so. Did yall notice the counters and pulls that they ran? I love seeing those huge lineman come sweeping around and just smashing people. Very old school.

They still have to get their short yardage groove on. Sometimes, it takes them a bit to get going, and so in short yardage, they miss the initial push. But when they can get out into space, man. That's a Gibbs/Buges line at its best. Nice to see Saunders using it well.

Now they've got to take that momentum and match up with maybe the best front in the league. GO DIRTBAGS!!!

saden1 09-25-2006 04:18 PM

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Dockery looks a lot leaner and meaner than last year. Hindsight is 20/20 but man we should have locked him up for a few years. Knowing the Skins, he'll probably walk for more money at the end of the year.

61cad 09-25-2006 04:19 PM

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That's why the skins ran so well last year. Run outside the tackle with DOCK pulling!

hurrykaine 09-25-2006 04:23 PM

Re: Dockery Kicks it Up a Notch!
 
[QUOTE=Winskins;219954]Derrick Dockery looked like he made some strides on Sunday. On one play in particular I remember Dockery tossing a d-lineman from Houston to the side like a ragdoll and taking on another block to spring a big run. I remember seeing him doing some more of that in the Houston game as well. I think, for the first time I remember, that he made a big step toward living up to that potential that Buge's is always talking about.[/QUOTE]

Yea, he looked like a beast during that play - tossing the D-lineman and making a block in the same play. If I had to rate the weakest O-lineman for the skins, I'd say its probably Rabach (even though he had a few great blocks yesterday). This entire line is at its best when we run...just like games 11 through 16 last year.

Beemnseven 09-25-2006 04:23 PM

Re: Dockery Kicks it Up a Notch!
 
If by 'kicking it up a notch' you mean he was the only one not called for a holding penalty, then yes.

Bam. Now if the rest of the linemen could do the same...

offiss 09-25-2006 04:23 PM

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This thread is kind of ironic, I broke the game down last night and the one standout was Dockery, for what you ask? For getting knocked on his ass constantly, and missing block after block, he is the major problem with our line, fortuantly for us yesterday we really didn't need a big effort from him, if he's in open space guy's just run right around him, that's if he can figure out who to try and hit at all, and even when he does make contact in close he usually gets knocked down, or the defender slides around him immediatly. Dockery play's the guard postion as if he weighed 200lbs and was slow. I was going to start a thread today called the weekest link but this thread will do. People I believe are trying to find a way to legitamize Dockery because of his tremendous size, but size is meaningless if you can't or don't know how to use it, we should have had a backup plan for this guy he's just not a football player.

Jansen also has to get it together he's being pushed all over the place the first 3 games.

MightyJoeGibbs 09-25-2006 04:23 PM

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I think Dockery should have been tested for steroids or PCP in that HOuston game. Every play he was plowing holes and swinging bodies around like he was the incredible Hulk.

Beemnseven 09-25-2006 04:25 PM

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[QUOTE=offiss;220043]Jansen also has to get it together he's being pushed all over the place the first 3 games.[/QUOTE]

Yes, there was a time when Jansen was the one guy you could always count on when the rest of the offense was in a funk.

Not anymore.

MightyJoeGibbs 09-25-2006 04:25 PM

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Yesterday was just such an odd day. I felt so confident in pointing out the mistakes made weeks 1-2 and what??... Mark and Dockery wanna just correct them in a week. Whats that about?

Winskins 09-25-2006 05:10 PM

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[QUOTE=offiss;220043]This thread is kind of ironic, I broke the game down last night and the one standout was Dockery, for what you ask? For getting knocked on his ass constantly, and missing block after block, he is the major problem with our line, fortuantly for us yesterday we really didn't need a big effort from him, if he's in open space guy's just run right around him, that's if he can figure out who to try and hit at all, and even when he does make contact in close he usually gets knocked down, or the defender slides around him immediatly. Dockery play's the guard postion as if he weighed 200lbs and was slow. I was going to start a thread today called the weekest link but this thread will do. People I believe are trying to find a way to legitamize Dockery because of his tremendous size, but size is meaningless if you can't or don't know how to use it, we should have had a backup plan for this guy he's just not a football player.

Jansen also has to get it together he's being pushed all over the place the first 3 games.[/QUOTE]

I agree that Dockery has put up some subpar performances in the past and that was actually a pretty accurate description of some of the things that have happened in the past.

On Sunday night though I did not see Dockery out of position often and I even thought that when he got out into space he was superb. I remember on one pull he absolutely leveled one of Houston's linebackers and then threw a block against a DB to help create a nice running lane up the sideline.

You said he is the 'weakest link' and it's possible that he might be, but if he is then I would say that is a good problem to have because he was playing his behind off this past Sunday.

offiss 09-25-2006 05:18 PM

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[QUOTE=Winskins;220084]I agree that Dockery has put up some subpar performances in the past and that was actually a pretty accurate description of some of the things that have happened in the past.

On Sunday night though I did not see Dockery out of position often and I even thought that when he got out into space he was superb. I remember on one pull he absolutely leveled one of Houston's linebackers and then threw a block against a DB to help create a nice running lane up the sideline.

You said he is the 'weakest link' and it's possible that he might be, but if he is then I would say that is a good problem to have because he was playing his behind off this past Sunday.[/QUOTE]


Dockery doesn't know how to use leverage he was being stood up constantly by a smaller tackle, I broke it down in slow mo and isloated him reason being it's very difficult to gauge unless it's blatent with a guard, unlike a tackle who's is pretty obvious when he gets beat, a guard is kind of hidden from the obvious, if you have tivo break down the first half [which is as far as I went] and you will see we might as well have 4 guy's on the line, Dockery will make an occasional block but you get the feeling it happens by accident rather than by design.

jamf 09-25-2006 05:30 PM

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[QUOTE=DaveyFoSho;220023]Bam![/QUOTE]
I thought he was going to be on emeril live...

That Guy 09-26-2006 12:55 PM

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best game of dockery's career... i don't know what happened to him, but he wasn't trying to shoestring tackle people or anything this game. I'd love to see him play like that every game.

samuels was a bit off today though. he stands around and let's people run by him too much :/

hopefully dock can keep it up against jacksonville.

dmek25 09-26-2006 01:00 PM

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lets turn that jville game into a street fight. run the ball, run the ball, and then run the ball some more. lets see how good that defense really is. and leftwich doesnt scare me at all.

12thMan 09-26-2006 01:07 PM

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Through the first three games one could make an argument about any of the lineman being the weakest link.

That Guy 09-26-2006 01:23 PM

Re: Dockery Kicks it Up a Notch!
 
[quote=12thMan;220274]Through the first three games one could make an argument about any of the lineman being the weakest link.[/quote]

i'd like to hear the ones for jansen and thomas...

MTK 09-26-2006 01:28 PM

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Jansen has been flagged quite a few times.

Thomas has been his usual solid self, I don't recall him drawing a flag yet.

12thMan 09-26-2006 01:32 PM

Re: Dockery Kicks it Up a Notch!
 
That's pretty much where I was going with the weakest link: Both Jansen and Samuels have had their share of flags so far. I'm willing to bet more than Dockery.

While the line overal has left a lot to be desired through the first two games, the third game I would give the nod to Dock over Thomas.

dmek25 09-26-2006 01:46 PM

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i wonder if buges is telling those guys, if you get beat, hold. to keep brunell from getting injured


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