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They just said it on the halftime show of the Southern Miss/ UCF game, dont have a link...but hey, you can trust me.



I was really hoping he'd be back this week because we really need a guy on defense. I dont think the Jaguars have a great offense, but they can still score some points, and Springs could make a huge difference if in and healthy.

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quit milking it nancy...pelvis muscle tear shmelvis muscle tear

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[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;220473]quit milking it nancy...pelvis muscle tear shmelvis muscle tear[/quote]
huh?

Anyways, I was hoping he'd be back this game, but apparantly not. I think we'll stop seeing so many big plays once Springs is back on the field. The question is, when is he gonna get back on the field?

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I'm thinking probably two more weeks, Mooby.

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Yeah, when he first got the injury I figured it wasn't something that would keep him out for a while, but apparantly it is. Springs is a huge part of our defense and it's pretty obvious our secondary needs him back there. I think we should definitely look at getting a cornerback in the draft or through free agency after this season, Springs can't stay healthy, and I would like to keep Kenny Wright as the nickel back instead of Springs' backup.

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I am still trying to figure out why they rushed him back for the Texans game. This team really makes no sense sometimes.

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[quote=Gmanc711;220471]They just said it on the halftime show of the Southern Miss/ UCF game, dont have a link...but hey, you can trust me.



I was really hoping he'd be back this week because we really need a guy on defense. I dont think the Jaguars have a great offense, but they can still score some points, and Springs could make a huge difference if in and healthy.[/quote]

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/14570-heading-into-jax-game.html#post220326"]Here's the link[/URL].

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I'd rather him sit and be 100% when he gets back. It is a physically stressful position and having him for say 10 games is better than 3 or 4 and then done for the year.

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are we all in agreement that one player( s springs) is that big of a difference maker that our defense will change drastically? im not, i dont buy it. although i didnt think portis coming back would make that big of a difference. i was wrong on the that one

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We really need CBs. I think that is the weakest link on the team. With the exception on kicking maybe

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Huge difference. Because Springs isn't in there, we're weak in coverage, and everybody knows it, including our defensive players. So the defensive guys are on their heels, trying to figure out how they're going to have to help on passing plays. That means that a lot of guys are playing their position and a little bit of somebody else's. This impacts the aggression, and spontaneous reaction time increases. The latter can be fatal. In addition, some guys are responsible a lot more for coverage who just aren't good at it (AA). Springs makes everybody but the pass rushers immediately better. But then we can bring another person on the pass plays, and so the pass rush is better too. So I think Springs means more to this defense than Portis means to the offense. I don't think (on paper) we're that much worse than the defense from 2 years ago. I remember hearing that if we had scored 21 points each game that year, we would have gone 14-2.

We have the POTENTIAL for a tremendous year this year. We just have to wait for Springs to get back to see where we are. (And wait for the OL to wake up. I'm assuming you hold only when you get beat. So they were even getting beat regularly by the Texas DL. Yes, Brunell didn't get sacked and they had awesome yards/carry, but we've got to get stronger there.)

[QUOTE=dmek25;220552]are we all in agreement that one player( s springs) is that big of a difference maker that our defense will change drastically? im not, i dont buy it. although i didnt think portis coming back would make that big of a difference. i was wrong on the that one[/QUOTE]

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We definitely miss him in coverage, but his blitzing is probably the bigger issue. Neither Rogers nor Wrumph (the Wright/Rumph combo on the other side) has the speed, strength, or skill of Springs in a blitz package.

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[quote=mike340;220569]I remember hearing that if we had scored 21 points each game that year, we would have gone 14-2.[/quote]

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/was2004.htm]2004 Washington Redskins statistics - pro-football-reference.com[/url]

Wow - you're right! 13-2-1 (I assume Hall would have botched the game-winning field goal against Dallass in OT, and we would have tied ;)). The league average that year was 21.5 and the mean was 21. We scored 15/game.

We need Springs back. We need that nasty defense back.

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There may be one positive in Springs being out is that other have to fill in and will/may improve over this 5 game span. We have gave up some big plays but the D has kepp us in all of our games and its been the lack of production from our O which has hurt us. I will admitt that Dallas did drop alot of balls but that was a game in which our D was on the field for alot of the game.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;220478]I am still trying to figure out why they rushed him back for the Texans game. This team really makes no sense sometimes.[/quote]

Springs played in the game at the Texans? I didnt see him playing. how can he be rushed back for the game if he didnt play. i don t understand

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[quote=Gmanc711;220471]They just said it on the halftime show of the Southern Miss/ UCF game, dont have a link...but hey, you can trust me.



I was really hoping he'd be back this week because we really need a guy on defense. I dont think the Jaguars have a great offense, but they can still score some points, and Springs could make a huge difference if in and healthy.[/quote]

:( We really need this man back in action.

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;220663]Springs played in the game at the Texans? I didnt see him playing. how can he be rushed back for the game if he didnt play. i don t understand[/quote]

They ran him in practice last week, and he tweaked his groin. That, however, was apparently not related to the decision not to play him against the Texans.

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[quote=dmek25;220552]are we all in agreement that one player( s springs) is that big of a difference maker that our defense will change drastically? im not, i dont buy it. although i didnt think portis coming back would make that big of a difference. i was wrong on the that one[/quote]

Well think of it logically. Rogers is on the 1 receiver most of the time now....he really isnt capable so they always provide him with some sort of help over the top....With springs on the 1 receiver they feel more comfortable in his coverage thus less help rolling to his side. Rogers did a decent job on the 1 receivers(TO did nothing against us) it was pretty much their 2nd and 3rd receivers who owned us with the exception in johnson. BUT with Rogers covering their 2nd guys im sure he will do a better job than wright and Springs on the first guy...this opens us up for the blitz.... OH YES we will blitz hard and often :-) SO basically Although it seems a tad weird Springs is affecting us this much...logically it makes sense!!

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[quote=onlydarksets;220666]They ran him in practice last week, and he tweaked his groin. That, however, was apparently not related to the decision not to play him against the Texans.[/quote]

and also not related to the previous injury..

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My prediction regarding Springs is he's not going to be 100% until the middle of the season at least. I wouldn't be suprised if he doesn't play at all this year.

Just my gut feeling.

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;220909]and also not related to the previous injury..[/quote]

right - the previous injury is what wasn't ready. i'm not sure why they even mentioned the groin injury if it didn't contribute to the decision not to play him. i do have to wonder if he tweaked the abdomen injury by practicing too early.

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if PP wasn't on IR i'd feel better about the whole secondary :/ I think taylor is a good match up for bigger WRs and him in man + PP in zone is better than ST in zone + rumph in man/zone.

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Sorry off topic abit but, these new Portis avatars are freaking way to funny.

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If he is able to go this week, I still sit him. At least until we have coverage issues. Jags O is far less of a concern then their D. We desperatly need Shawn in NY next week.

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luckily, they only have tall slow WRs, and we've only got tall slow DBs. not as bad a matchup as andre johnson or terry glenn.

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Springs Doubtful for Jaguars Game

Thats just freaking great

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thatguy, good analysis about prilieou. i think maybe this defense is missing him more than people realize

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Springs needs to stop lollygagging along and get on the fucking field.

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[quote=dmek25;220552]are we all in agreement that one player( s springs) is that big of a difference maker that our defense will change drastically? im not, i dont buy it. although i didnt think portis coming back would make that big of a difference. i was wrong on the that one[/quote]

I really believe the threat of a shutdown corner, which springs was at onetime, puts a little bit of fear in the oppostions game planning. With that being said i dont think anyone fears wright, rumph, and rogers. Springs is that difference maker in the secondary. My biggest fear is that springs wont make it back in time. the last i have read of his situation is he probably wont even make the giants game. to have any hope of beating the colts we need him healthy.

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Springs is acting like a realy Pus*y, do your damn job. In the NFL players play through the pain. Everyone knows that there are players that wont or cant play throught the pain and unfortunatley he is one of them. Jansen played most of last season w/ two broken thumbs, Emmit Smith played a game with a separated shoulder, sh*t TO came back after 4 weeks with a broken ankle, but Springs cant go in with a strain?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;220955]My prediction regarding Springs is he's not going to be 100% until the middle of the season at least. I wouldn't be suprised if he doesn't play at all this year.

Just my gut feeling.[/QUOTE]

You know, I was feeling the same thing and was going to start a new thread on that subject. I don't know what is going on here. It seems like everyone that does interviews at Redskins park doesn't seem to want to talk about it. From Joe to Gregg and even Vinny on the noon show yesterday acts like they don't know what the status of springs is, WTF??? Everyone should listen to the archive file on Redskins.com from yesterdays show. Vinny was asked about Springs and he said something like I don't really know, Springs saw his specialist and everything is really up to HIM at this point. If you listen to the tone in Vinny's voice when he said that, it really tells the whole story. I consider Springs to be the best player we have on D and for the coaches to act like they have no clue as to what is going on is VERY ODD...

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[quote=Brute44;221297]You know, I was feeling the same thing and was going to start a new thread on that subject. I don't know what is going on here. It seems like everyone that does interviews at Redskins park doesn't seem to want to talk about it. From Joe to Gregg and even Vinny on the noon show yesterday acts like they don't know what the status of springs is, WTF??? Everyone should listen to the archive file on Redskins.com from yesterdays show. Vinny was asked about Springs and he said something like I don't really know, Springs saw his specialist and everything is really up to HIM at this point. If you listen to the tone in Vinny's voice when he said that, it really tells the whole story. I consider Springs to be the best player we have on D and for the coaches to act like they have no clue as to what is going on is VERY ODD...[/quote]

Reminds me alot of LaVar's knee situation, without all the drama of course.

Springs is seeing specialists, he's week to week... I don't like the chances of him coming back any time soon.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;221316]Reminds me alot of LaVar's knee situation, without all the drama of course.

Springs is seeing specialists, he's week to week... I don't like the chances of him coming back any time soon.[/QUOTE]

Man, we must be on same the wave length or something. I was thinking the exact same thing. Last year with Arrington started out like he's hurt and cant play but we never got any real answer about it. As the season progressed well, we all know how that ended up. All we herd was next week, next week, Hopefully he'll be ready to go and thats all were hearing now. I just want to know what is exactly wrong with Springs. Not he tweaked his groin or some kind of laceration thing. I mean do they not have a actual diagnosis for this guy or what??? I don't know but I feel like this season has started just about as bad as can be. Does anybody get the feeling like there has been some regrettable decisions about how this organization has been run sofar this season. Starting with how the preseason was handled to the way Coach has let decisions about playing be up to the players kinda thing. I almost feel like Joe is letting all the decisions be made up to everyone else or something. I don't even want to say it, but do you think that this may be Joe's last year here!

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I just have one question...if he knew it was going to be a problem....why did he wait so long for surgery???

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It seems like this is a case of the cure being worse than the disease.

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[quote=Stacks42;221296]Springs is acting like a realy Pus*y, do your damn job. In the NFL players play through the pain. Everyone knows that there are players that wont or cant play throught the pain and unfortunatley he is one of them. Jansen played most of last season w/ two broken thumbs, Emmit Smith played a game with a separated shoulder, sh*t TO came back after 4 weeks with a broken ankle, but Springs cant go in with a strain?[/quote]

damn, i'm sure glad you're not the GM. he's slow and can't cut right now. he's be worthlesss on the field, an forcing him out there would hobble him for much longer than just letting it heal.

yes it sucks, but springs has had injury concerns for a while, and that's why he was available in FA in 2004 and why he was able to be signed so cheaply compared to his talent.

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I wish we would've signed Ty Law for insurance because Rogers and Springs was hurt last year.