Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

Yep i totally agree with everyone on running the football, we pay this guy so much and only give him 14 carries. The screen is great but not 30 times a game it seems like. And remember last year with Chris Cooley and how diverse he was in our offense wheres he now. 1 TD catch and how bout Mike Sellers didn't he have like 7 TD catches in the redzone. Its kind of frustrating with all this talent and we can't spread the ball. Give the playbook back to Gibbs.

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We brought in two #2 receivers, and Cooley is still our second leading receiver, yardage-wise and TD-wise. The problem is not there.

As for Sellers, CP is getting the red zone TDs, which is fine by me.

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You know AL saunders is not the one who locks in on one receiver every freakin' play! I wonder who that is.............................Sorry ass Brunell! I'll tell you where Chris Cooley is................ running open down the field while Brunell is too busy throwing to Moss in Triple Fuckin coverage!!!:banghead: HAIL from MCUSA!

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only way to get Cooley the ball is if he's Bruney's number one read.

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Listen to Cooley's most recent interview on EITM (I started a thread on it). Cooley says he feels like he's been getting open when he's supposed to and that he can't really do anything beyond that. He stopped short of calling out Brunell or saying there is a problem, but he definately sounded frustrated to me.

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Cooley's not the problem in this scenerio. He is also being used more in blocking schemes...since Brunell is quite fragile and can't scramble an egg, much less get out of the pocket anymore.

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I think Cooley would catch a lot more passes if he would just run about 15' in front of Brunell when he scrambles and turns around.
Maybe Brunell just can't see that far down field. He should get laser surgery.

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Considering that Cooley was the #2 option last year on pretty much every passing play, but is now the #3 or #4, I don't see Cooley's production being an issue. His numbers are down about 30% from the same time last year, but that is to be expected.

Cooley's numbers are completely irrespective of Brunell's (in)ability to check down to the open receiver.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;230384]We brought in two #2 receivers, and Cooley is still our second leading receiver, yardage-wise and TD-wise. The problem is not there.

As for Sellers, CP is getting the red zone TDs, which is fine by me.[/QUOTE]

Really? I don't think Cooley is a problem, but getting him the ball definitely is. I thought he was playing the Tony Gonzalez role in this offense, which I thought meant that he was going to be a target on a lot more plays than just tight end screens and the check down on the play action rollouts that we can't seem to run without tipping cornerbacks off and limiting our own chances for success. Cooley is on pace to catch about 40 balls. We need him to catch at least 70. I wonder if he's dropped himself in his fantasy league?

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;230430]I think Cooley would catch a lot more passes if he would just run about 15' in front of Brunell when he scrambles and turns around.
Maybe Brunell just can't see that far down field. He should get laser surgery.[/QUOTE]

in Brunell's defense, that's exactly the pass Brunell and Cooley connected on with that last TD.

like i said before, Cooley is only player big and slow enough for Brunell to hit over the middle.

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[QUOTE=illdefined;230462]in Brunell's defense, that's exactly the pass Brunell and Cooley connected on with that last TD.

like i said before, Cooley is only player big and slow enough for Brunell to hit over the middle.[/QUOTE]

I agree, and it was actually a beautiful play. Maybe we should run it more.

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;230468]I agree, and it was actually a beautiful play. Maybe we should run it more.[/QUOTE]

Agreed...that is vintage Trent Green to Tony Gonzalez, with the latter dragging tacklers with him into the end zone. Cooley did that against the Titans. This thread has been misnamed - we know Cooley's play has not been a problem - he's as sure a pair of hands as we have on this team - he catches almost everything thrown his way. His blocking has improved substantially too.

Brunell has not been able to find him - not Cooley's fault.

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[QUOTE=hurrykaine;230509]Agreed...that is vintage Trent Green to Tony Gonzalez, with the latter dragging tacklers with him into the end zone. Cooley did that against the Titans. This thread has been misnamed - we know Cooley's play has not been a problem - he's as sure a pair of hands as we have on this team - he catches almost everything thrown his way. His blocking has improved substantially too.

Brunell has not been able to find him - not Cooley's fault.[/QUOTE]

And yet all those times he found him last year, Brunell gets no credit for that.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;230519]And yet all those times he found him last year, Brunell gets no credit for that.[/QUOTE]

do you blame Saunders then? the Oline? honest question.

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I just think it's a matter of Cooley being the 3rd or 4th option now where last year he was #2.

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[QUOTE=illdefined;230521]do you blame Saunders then? the Oline? honest question.[/QUOTE]

I think, like Matty says and we've both said before, it's just a matter of him not being a top option these days. I don't think the blame can be simply pinned on Brunell for not reaching every receiver multiple times each game. Beyond Tom Brady, how many QBs really spread the wealth around so much?

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[quote=TAFKAS;230519]And yet all those times he found him last year, Brunell gets no credit for that.[/quote]

He got credit for last year when it mattered... last year.

And I agree with the people that think the problem is the person delivering the ball, and not the person catching it. Cooley only gets passes his way when he's Brunell's first read, which is far less than last year, since there's a true #2 receiver now.

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yeah i can see that. but there are articles written on how little the new #2 and #3 have been getting it this year (besides in the flat).

i think Patten is actually a better receiver than anyone thought, Brunell just didn't look to him much last year.

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Cooley isn't getting as many looks, espicially in the red zone, so his numbers are suffering. He's doing a great job in run blocking this year, very much improved. Cooley is not a weak link on this team by any means.

But here's a good point. Last year we were using Cooley to max potential. This year, it's not even close. So was it really neccessary to add TWO WRs in the offseason?

I'd say no.

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[quote=TAFKAS;230530]I think, like Matty says and we've both said before, it's just a matter of him not being a top option these days. I don't think the blame can be simply pinned on Brunell for not reaching every receiver multiple times each game. Beyond Tom Brady, how many QBs really spread the wealth around so much?[/quote]In general, Mark Brunell is high on the spreading list. McNabb and Peyton are up there too. Pretty much all good QBs spread the ball, and I do think that Brunell has been struggling to get to the level of the comfort in this offense to where he can spread the ball around efficiently. He's doing an okay job, but not as good as last year.

Campbell, I imagine, would be way behind in this part of his development.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;230536]Cooley isn't getting as many looks, espicially in the red zone, so his numbers are suffering. He's doing a great job in run blocking this year, very much improved. Cooley is not a weak link on this team by any means.

But here's a good point. Last year we were using Cooley to max potential. This year, it's not even close. So was it really neccessary to add TWO WRs in the offseason?

I'd say no.[/QUOTE]

same with "Endzone" Sellers

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;230536]Cooley isn't getting as many looks, espicially in the red zone, so his numbers are suffering. He's doing a great job in run blocking this year, very much improved. Cooley is not a weak link on this team by any means.

But here's a good point. Last year we were using Cooley to max potential. This year, it's not even close. So was it really neccessary to add TWO WRs in the offseason?

I'd say no.[/QUOTE]

I think Gibbs did that because he didn't want another recurrence to last year of Farris and Taylor Jacobs starting with a playoff run on the line

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;230549]I think Gibbs did that because he didn't want another recurrence to last year of Farris and Taylor Jacobs starting with a playoff run on the line[/QUOTE]

Then why is David Patten still with the team?

We could have used either Randle El or Lloyd. But it looks like we didn't need both. Settling on one would have saved us from parting with a couple of draft picks, too.

But hey, who needs draft picks when you have the keen forsight of Snyder and Cerrato to pick through the trash and spare parts of other 4-12 teams around the league?

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[QUOTE=memphisskin;230436]Really? I don't think Cooley is a problem, but getting him the ball definitely is. I thought he was playing the Tony Gonzalez role in this offense, which I thought meant that he was going to be a target on a lot more plays than just tight end screens and the check down on the play action rollouts that we can't seem to run without tipping cornerbacks off and limiting our own chances for success. Cooley is on pace to catch about 40 balls. We need him to catch at least 70. I wonder if he's dropped himself in his fantasy league?[/QUOTE]
Check my post immediately preceding your post. I agree - getting the ball to receivers is a problem. However, with all of the talent at WR, it's natural for his numbers to go down. The only problem, as I see it, is that it would be nice if those numbers at least "went" to someone else.

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I thought those WR"s were brought in to take pressure off of Moss. To prevent teams from rolling coverages Moss' way. It seems like Brunell still wants to force the issue! Cooley should be killin' that bullshit cover two D right up the hash! WTF?!!!! HAIL from MCUSA!

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Could it be that he cut his hair? Just a thought. HAIL from MCUSA!

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;230519]And yet all those times he found him last year, Brunell gets no credit for that.[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind that Brunell not being able to find him could be as much a function of inconsistent offensive line play as it is mediocre QB play. Don't be so quick to assume that I'm blaming Brunell.

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[QUOTE=Crat92;230703]I thought those WR"s were brought in to take pressure off of Moss. To prevent teams from rolling coverages Moss' way. It seems like Brunell still wants to force the issue! Cooley should be killin' that bullshit cover two D right up the hash! WTF?!!!! HAIL from MCUSA![/QUOTE]
I think that was the primary goal, but the secondary effect of that is fewer receptions for everyone else. If you get the ball to Moss 85 times, Cooley 70, and the RBs 55, you're not really using those #2 receivers much. Although total completions should go up, Cooley (as the de facto #2 receiver) is still going to lose a couple of receptions.

Again, though, Brunell should be getting the ball to SOMEBODY if not Cooley.