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Does anyone know what Lloyd's sideline fit was all about? Was he in a fight with ARE?

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I am glad he is pissed. At least he cares and has a pulse. Does #8 have a pulse?

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I bet he was pissed off the team was 2-5 - I threw a hissy fit too.

Fire Al Saunders!!

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HE's tired of that spaghetti arm ass QB not getting him the ball! He should have slapped the shit out of Brunell and given him a concussion! HAIL from MCUSA!

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I don't want to hear from Lloyd...

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[quote=celts32;232463]I don't want to hear from Lloyd...[/quote]

Who do you want to hear from?

Gibbs said Brunell had a good game? HA HA HA HA HHA

Can someone check Joe's medicine?

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;232449]I am glad he is pissed. At least he cares and has a pulse. Does #8 have a pulse?[/QUOTE]


Damn right. It's about time somebody showed some emotion.

It's only a matter of time before the frustrations get more and more noticeable on the sidelines.

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Amen. why don't we jump on lloyd just like we did Patten last year and while we are at it just fire all the recievers why would they get mad it is all there fault for getting open and not getting the ball. Every receiver on this team should throw a fissy, but because they are a team they are not going to throw the weak link under the bus, Brunell. Stop trying to look for us a # 2 receiver we have them we just can't get them the damn ball.

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[quote=joekes;232450]
Fire Al Saunders!![/quote]

It's that kind of mindset which has created a shitty organization over the last decade.

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Remember Gary Clark's tirades? I'd rather see hissyfit's than laughing on the sideline during a game like this. Too many laughs over the last 15 years. We need more players getting emotional after losses.

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[quote=Beemnseven;232466]Damn right. It's about time somebody showed some emotion.

It's only a matter of time before the frustrations get more and more noticeable on the sidelines.[/quote]
Years ago, Gary Clark throwing an occasional fit was usually a good thing. Hopefully some of Lloyd's passion starts to rub off on others. I'd like to see a little more of it out of the coaches. I love that Parcells will shoot a player "the stare" when he feels it's warranted. Gibbs seems like the good cop, but we need Bugel or somebody to be the bad cop on this coaching staff.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;232465]Who do you want to hear from?

Gibbs said Brunell had a good game? HA HA HA HA HHA

Can someone check Joe's medicine?[/quote]
Did he really say that Brunnell had a good game??? Are you serious?????

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;232447]Does anyone know what Lloyd's sideline fit was all about? Was he in a fight with ARE?[/QUOTE]
I think ARE gave him crap for lollygagging on a block, and Lloyd wasn't having it.

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If I thought anyone on the team took him seriously, I would be glad that he was mad. But since he's a joke it's all sound and fury signifying nothing. Coach probably took away his headphones or something.

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i bet he was having a hissyfit about the coaches NOT having a hissyfit. i know i was.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;232487]I think ARE gave him crap for lollygagging on a block, and Lloyd wasn't having it.[/QUOTE]

What makes you say that? I figured he was pissed he wasn't getting the ball and Brunell was just dumping it off to guys in the flats in an attempt to get them killed.

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So I am guessing no one knows why?

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This team is too corporate, it needs more emotion and heart. I was glad to see Lloyd's anger

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[QUOTE=70Chip;232494]If I thought anyone on the team took him seriously, I would be glad that he was mad. But since he's a joke it's all sound and fury signifying nothing. Coach probably took away his headphones or something.[/QUOTE]

He's a joke? How so? You think he is getting any looks? The guy throwing the ball is a joke...so is his annoying "thumbs up" sign when he does something f'ed up.

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[QUOTE=NYCSkin;232478]Remember Gary Clark's tirades? I'd rather see hissyfit's than laughing on the sideline during a game like this. Too many laughs over the last 15 years. We need more players getting emotional after losses.[/QUOTE]

Good call...We need some fire out there (umm, insert LaVar reference here)

This is a football team not a bible study group...Fucking snap out of this bullshit "everything will come together because we are good people"...I don't give a shit if the whole team was a bunch of coke-heads like ol' Dex was. I just want to see some heart and soul and all I see is tired, cliched bullshit from Gibbs, and lame, lackluster, inconsistency week in, week out.

I don't know how much longer I can take this

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Lloyd looked okay to me today, as did ARE. Those guys look good when the ball goes their way. Unfortunately, the ball doesn't go their way all that often.

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[quote=TheFunBunch79;232511]
This is a football team not a bible study group[/quote]
Are you sure about that?

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[quote=hooskins;232475]It's that kind of mindset which has created a shitty organization over the last decade.[/quote]

His system is wrong for this franchise. His system is for teams that want to win pretty in the regular season and then get crushed in the postseason -Ask Kansas City... and yes their defense was terrible, but Saunders' play calling makes defenses terrible because he never controls the ball- and now our defense is getting worse too.
This team has to pick an identity, and Al saunders represents the wrong identity- Just ask the O-line.

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Every week I am baffled as to why we have a first round pick backup quarterback but he has to sit and watch an old man get us deeper in the hole instead of getting a chance to at least try to compete. Hey Joe, you never know he might actually get the ball to someone who can make shit happen.

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LLoyd makes a play everytime he gets the ball. He doesn't get catches because his geezer QB can't see that far down the field

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;232498]What makes you say that? I figured he was pissed he wasn't getting the ball and Brunell was just dumping it off to guys in the flats in an attempt to get them killed.[/QUOTE]
Because they showed ARE yelling at Lloyd, and then they showed Lloyd being restrained by the coaches. Usually when one WR yells at another, it's because he ran the wrong route or wasn't getting downfield on a block. I'm just guessing it was about blocking, but I don't know for certain.

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[quote=saden1;232509]He's a joke? How so? You think he is getting any looks? The guy throwing the ball is a joke...so is his annoying "thumbs up" sign when he does something f'ed up.[/quote]

He's afraid to get hit. That's how he's a joke.

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[quote=joekes;232516]His system is wrong for this franchise. His system is for teams that want to win pretty in the regular season and then get crushed in the postseason -Ask Kansas City... and yes their defense was terrible, but Saunders' play calling makes defenses terrible because he never controls the ball- and now our defense is getting worse too.
This team has to pick an identity, and Al saunders represents the wrong identity- Just ask the O-line.[/quote]

Um maybe the way the organization works is wrong for a proven offense. It is people like you that bash everytime something new doesnt work right away, and the front office had that mentality/still might have it. The reason we went to the playoffs last year, is because we had one losing year with Gibbs, and Danny boy did not give him the ax. Keeping similar systems tends to lead to winning in the NFL. Last year in the playoffs, this great offense of last year totally stopped. People doubled Moss, and Cooley, and stacked the line, and the Skins couldnt do shit. Everyone was bitching about the offense, and it finally got the fire power(recievers) and the ammo(the playbook) that it desperated needed. It is gonna take a while for it to work, but Saunders ran a finesse offense like they do with the Colts, and it is working perfectly fine.

Saying that Saunders's style is not prone towards winning is just ignorant and wrong.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;232525]He's afraid to get hit. That's how he's a joke.[/QUOTE]
How do you know he's affraid to get hit when he never gets the ball thrown to him?

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[quote=hooskins;232531]Um maybe the way the organization works is wrong for a proven offense.... The reason we went to the playoffs last year, is because we had one losing year with Gibbs, and Danny boy did not give him the ax. Keeping similar systems tends to lead to winning in the NFL. [/quote]

So why did we change systems to Saunders' stuff. Yes it's a proven winning system, but its NOT a proven CHAMPIONSHIP system. Ball control is a proven championship system year after year.
There is a reason Payton Manning hasn't won a super bowl- Finnesse wins regular season games - Intimidation (defense, running and playaction) wins Championships.
There was no reason to add Saunders after last year. Gibb's system was making progress - like you said, why change a proven system.
Gibbs = 3 super bowls.
Saunders = 0
It's not about winning in October, I'm sure after one or two more years Saunders giant playbook can give you an 11-5 season, but I'll guarantee it won't give you a super bowls. Why wait 2 years to be back where we were last year, when this season could have been special.
HUGE MISTAKE

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[QUOTE=70Chip;232525]He's afraid to get hit. That's how he's a joke.[/QUOTE]

You have to give him the opportunity to get hit to determine whether he is afraid to get hit.

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[quote=hooskins;232531]Um maybe the way the organization works is wrong for a proven offense. It is people like you that bash everytime something new doesnt work right away, and the front office had that mentality/still might have it. The reason we went to the playoffs last year, is because we had one losing year with Gibbs, and Danny boy did not give him the ax. Keeping similar systems tends to lead to winning in the NFL. Last year in the playoffs, this great offense of last year totally stopped. People doubled Moss, and Cooley, and stacked the line, and the Skins couldnt do shit. Everyone was bitching about the offense, and it finally got the fire power(recievers) and the ammo(the playbook) that it desperated needed. It is gonna take a while for it to work, but Saunders ran a finesse offense like they do with the Colts, and it is working perfectly fine.

Saying that Saunders's style is not prone towards winning is just ignorant and wrong.[/quote]

If "Last year in the playoffs, this great offense of last year totally stopped. People doubled Moss, and Cooley, and stacked the line, and the Skins couldnt do shit. " is the case, we got 2 more reliable receivers in ARE and LLOYD to take the extra defenders off of Moss so why not use last years Offense and see if it worked seeing that we added those to counter the coverage on Moss? why throw a whole new system? I say let Coach Gibbs run the team.... didnt need saunders. dont care if you say it takes time to learn a new system we were not that far off last year from the big game.. so why throw something in that confuses everyone or takes 10 wks or a season to grasp when more than likely you wont have all them same players next year and you will have new players learning a system new to them. back in the same boat. so i say why not leave the system we had last yr since we added new wr's. It is saunders thats causing this mostly, some MB but mostly saunders. JG needs to take the reigns and take this team back over..

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[quote=joekes;232557]So why did we change systems to Saunders' stuff. Yes it's a proven winning system, but its NOT a proven CHAMPIONSHIP system. Ball control is a proven championship system year after year.
There is a reason Payton Manning hasn't won a super bowl- Finnesse wins regular season games - Intimidation (defense, running and playaction) wins Championships.
There was no reason to add Saunders after last year. Gibb's system was making progress - like you said, why change a proven system.
Gibbs = 3 super bowls.
Saunders = 0
It's not about winning in October, I'm sure after one or two more years Saunders giant playbook can give you an 11-5 season, but I'll guarantee it won't give you a super bowls. Why wait 2 years to be back where we were last year, when this season could have been special.
HUGE MISTAKE[/quote]

First of all, read the rest of my post that you are ignoring. our offensed SUCKED in the playoffs, why? Because there were not enough plays, only several recievers, and the play calling was very conservative. That is why we lost against Seattle, and should have agaisnt Tampa. The point? Defenses pick up easy and basic offenses, like ours last year. It wasnt gonna work this year, we needed change, everyone wanted it, now it we got it. So just shuttup and stick with it until next year then start bitching.

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Ken Harvey says it all: [url]http://blog.washingtonpost.com/atthegame/[/url]

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yeah cuz moss was getting double and triple covered. now we have others to take the coverage off of him.. GIBBS SHOULD TAKE OVER THE OFFENSE PERIOD. WE NEED TO WIN NOW NOT WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR OR LATER.

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;232573]If "Last year in the playoffs, this great offense of last year totally stopped. People doubled Moss, and Cooley, and stacked the line, and the Skins couldnt do shit. " is the case, we got 2 more reliable receivers in ARE and LLOYD to take the extra defenders off of Moss so why not use last years Offense and see if it worked seeing that we added those to counter the coverage on Moss? why throw a whole new system? I say let Coach Gibbs run the team.... didnt need saunders. dont care if you say it takes time to learn a new system we were not that far off last year from the big game.. so why throw something in that confuses everyone or takes 10 wks or a season to grasp when more than likely you wont have all them same players next year and you will have new players learning a system new to them. back in the same boat. so i say why not leave the system we had last yr since we added new wr's. It is saunders thats causing this mostly, some MB but mostly saunders. JG needs to take the reigns and take this team back over..[/quote]

BC last year's team was not good enough for the big game. Jeez when will you people learn, not to jump all over people every given week. Last year it was the same people complaining about our offense being lame, and needing more fire power, now we have it, and it will take a while to develop, but having a losing season is worth more than having a lackluster basic offense that was no good for the long run.


And for all you tools that are trying to blame this simply on the offense, Brunell really sucks and Saunders knows that, that's why he can't run the plays that are good deep passing routes, so he has to stick with what Mark does best, which is shit. Bring in JC, and I promise by the end of the year, the offense will look more like KC's of the past.

Finally, are you totally overlooking the D??? They can't do anything at all, and are not making turnovers to put the offense in a good position to score. Last year when we made that run the turnover margin was like +11. Right now we are like -2 or something, another reason why we suck.
Lesson? Stop being elementary, and put blame on one individual, esp the one who is probably gonna provide long term success to this organization as long as the front office doesnt think like you guys.

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GIBBS NEEDS TO TAKE OVER!!!! You missed what i said "It is saunders thats causing this mostly, some MB but mostly saunders. JG needs to take the reigns and take this team back over.." you werent around for most of Gibbs' last coaching era here.. so you havent seen what he can do. Dingy nor Saunders havent won superbowls. GIBBS has Let him take over..

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;232584]GIBBS NEEDS TO TAKE OVER!!!! You missed what i said "It is saunders thats causing this mostly, some MB but mostly saunders. JG needs to take the reigns and take this team back over.." you werent around for most of Gibbs' last coaching era here.. so you havent seen what he can do. Dingy nor Saunders havent won superbowls. GIBBS has Let him take over..[/quote]
Gibbs had control last two years, and he didnt do squat, yeah he made a run towards last year, but last year's offense was a terrible one in the playoffs. When it mattered, we couldnt make those tricky plays, and we couldnt open it up. Brunell is a huge problem for the system. Believe me I know what Gibbs can do, and I not putting the blame on his shoulders, as you so squarely are on Saunders. Again it is very ignorant to ignore all aspects of this problem.

And I really hope future NFL managers are looking at these suggestions to learn the way NOT to run a football team.

I am done with this pointless debate. I re-read your posts, now re-read mine, and don't forget(like everyone now does) how we did towards the end of last year, and how basic and crappy our offense was shown to be(was it 25 total yards agaisnt tampa??).

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We added more receivers like i said to take the coverage off of moss which was the problem last year so why not run with the old plus with new wrs instead of new wrs AND a new system.. this is the Redskins not Chiefs.

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im inclined to agree that "our" redskin team sucks badly...im just fed up trying top watch and getting almost ill..i had to stop watching i was and am so f88kin mad get a clue about what the hell is really going on here...this is PATHETIC