Bearish Season Prediction
 

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that is the remaining schedule...

Our side, Our O can't score, and Our D can't stop people from scoring...

That being said, lets see how we end up, and lets not forget, we have gotten blown out by dallas but for carwright's return, same with the colts and Randle El.

Dallas: Thought this was a win, but Romo looks good and we can't stop
the run. God I hope we win.
Eagle: mcnabb will find his touch vs our secondary...3 tds easy. each
game.
Bucs: Not a good team but neither are we...we'll see
Panthers: Solid Team. smith gets 2tds and 160 yards. foster runs for 130
and 1 td. Peppers gets 3 sacks.
Falcons- vick has tossed for 300 and 3 tds past few weeks...do you really
think we stop him? 2 tds thrown, 1 run, dunn gets in as well.
Saints- Solid team. 2 tds for brees. 1 for duece and maybe bush. same for
rams.
Giants: repeat of game in meadowlands uness they are benching their
starters....

i truly don't see a win (besides bucs), but think we will pull out 2-3. 4, if god really smiles upon us...

I wish i were kidding, but i think we are looking at 4-12 or 5-11...

hopefully Portis will dominate, and some of these predictions wont come true...fact is, the MOST we'll ever get out of brunell is 2 td and 225 (which is a large step up from current production)- and he cant do that week in, week out.

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Do you guys really think our secondary is going to suck this bad when we have both starting corners back? Remember, it was GREAT when both Springs and Rogers were in there last year. I'm still worried about the run defense, but pass defense should be much improved. We won't have Archuleta playing a position he's not supposed to be playing.

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i do...i love springs, despite his being injury prone, but Rogers is not up to speed yet. He's been consistently burned by WRs no matter who he's been matched up against. while he's seen higher caliber WRs this year, having filled in for Springs, he's been burned badly...i don't think many would consider Williamson from the Vikings or anyone on the titans to be considered legit No. 1 guys. If plexico is covered, toomer will score. if TO is covered Glenn will score. if Stallwort is covered, brown will score. if steve smith then k johnson.

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:doh:

Please tell me who he has been consistently burned by besides Troy Williamson. It's been rare.

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are you serious? please see any of the threads on carlos "cushion" rogers...

he's been next to useless

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I'll repeat, who has he gotten burned by again?

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I don't feel like getting the exact stats, but Rogers has only given up two TDs this year. That's like a fraction of the rest of the secondary. Add in the fact that we'll have Springs on the other side AND Rogers playing where he was meant to, and we'll be fine.

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As a fan of the Redskins, I don't see a point to this thread other than that maybe you're suggesting we don't watch the remaining games because we'll give up at 21 points and lose every game.

Here's my Bullish Season Prediction:

Dallas: This is a win, but Romo looks like a homo and we stop
the run. God I hope we win.
Eagle: mcnabb will find his receivers covered ...3 INT's easy. each
game.
Bucs: Not a good game for the Bucs...we'll see a totally dominating effort
Panthers: Sucky Team. smith does get 2tds and 160 yards. foster runs for 13 yards and 1 fumble. Peppers gets 3 face to face meet-n-greets with Sellers.
Falcons- vick has tossed for 300 and 3 tds past few weeks...do you really
think we stop him? Yes! 2 INT's thrown, 1 fumble, dunn gets stopped as well.
Saints- Average team. 2 tds for brees. 0 TD's for duece and probably bush. same for rams.
Giants: repeat of game in Landover (2005) uness we are benching our
starters....

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Re: 724, yet another comically blind fan who refuses to legitimately look at the season prospects, but i hope he is right. i like how you simply dismiss all other talent in favor of your simple, yet elegant arguments (romo is a homo)...

as for rogers, are you really going to just soley based on TDs given up? i don't believe he's been only burned for 2, but i'll leave that alone. what about his large cushion that he gives to each of opponent allowing them to catch anywhere between 8-12 yards at will (even in 4th and 8 situations...i remind you...)

I mean, lets be honest. rogers has not shown an ability to people, that is prevent them from going for bigs days when he's defending.

I will attempt to locate stats for rogers, as i not have hard ones at my disposal. Do you?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;236956]I don't feel like getting the exact stats, but Rogers has only given up two TDs this year. That's like a fraction of the rest of the secondary. Add in the fact that we'll have Springs on the other side AND Rogers playing where he was meant to, and we'll be fine.[/quote]

I also think that Rogers is far better than he is getting credit for. There's not a corner in the league that covers like Champ Bailey, so not every corner that Washington drafts should be expected to perform like him. Rogers may not play man coverage like Champ, but I think that's partially due to the scheme and injuries in the secondary. I do think he's a very good tackler as far as corners go though.

As far as the original post, I'd have to agree that 5-11 seems very likely with the current state of the team, but I'll reserve my final opinion until after the Dallas game.

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[quote=BrunellMVP?;236972]Re: 724, yet another comically blind fan who refuses to legitimately look at the season prospects, but i hope he is right. i like how you simply dismiss all other talent in favor of your simple, yet elegant arguments (romo is a homo)...

as for rogers, are you really going to just soley based on TDs given up? i don't believe he's been only burned for 2, but i'll leave that alone. what about his large cushion that he gives to each of opponent allowing them to catch anywhere between 8-12 yards at will (even in 4th and 8 situations...i remind you...)

I mean, lets be honest. rogers has not shown an ability to people, that is prevent them from going for bigs days when he's defending.

I will attempt to locate stats for rogers, as i not have hard ones at my disposal. Do you?[/quote]

I'll get some hard ones, but seriously, the secondary gets a bad rap SPECIFICALLY for the play of one Kenny Wright and less-so Mike Rumph. They abuse Kenny Wright and then the whole secondary looks bad.

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Overall though, Rogers is an EXCELLENT tackling corner. If they show the pass in the flats, he is up on that in seconds. I didn't even see Chris Gamble do that.

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i'd appreciate it...you are probably right (re:wright and rumph), however I still believe rogers gives up far too many first downs via his cushion...i also remember him giving up TDs, but i could be wrong. I'm not sure who tracks these stats? have to remind myself that he's only in his second year. (but also that he's a top 10 pick)

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Finally a realist. hate to admit it tho but I see it your way MVP.

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Well, as has been mentioned, playing on the other side of Springs will help Rogers immensely. It did last year. And, unfortunately, people tend to compare Rogers to Smoot. And Smoot is put on a higher pedestal by a lot of people just because he's no longer a Redskin. So he's seen as yet another stud we let get away. But if you look at the numbers, Smoot's really aren't better than Rogers' and Carlos hasn't embarrassed the organization with any extracurricular activities. 'LOS SMACK!

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malcolm, your logic is flawed. sure, i agree that rogers is a very good tackler. with that being said, he always has about a 10 yard cushion so completing passes in front of him is childs play. i wish there was a stat for that. 10 yard passes keep drives alive. something mark brunell knows nothing about

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I'm not going to blame Carlos for the cushion he gives. Once Springs comes back and all is right in the defensive universe, then we'll see how he fares. The cushion he gives has to be due to GW telling him to give it because he doesn't trust Archuleta to make the tackle.

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sure it helps to play opposite springs...but lets but we really aren't playing teams with only 1 good WR...as i listed bf, i see problems across the board. It should be easier for the safety to cheat over to help out, but we've not been getting sound play there all year. could change with springs, but that remains to be seen, as the colts really are a good indicator (anomoly- I hope). I'm really at a loss, i expect much more (as we all did).

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[quote=BrunellMVP?;236972]Re: 724, yet another comically blind fan who refuses to legitimately look at the season prospects, but i hope he is right. i like how you simply dismiss all other talent in favor of your simple, yet elegant arguments (romo is a homo)...

as for rogers, are you really going to just soley based on TDs given up? i don't believe he's been only burned for 2, but i'll leave that alone. what about his large cushion that he gives to each of opponent allowing them to catch anywhere between 8-12 yards at will (even in 4th and 8 situations...i remind you...)

I mean, lets be honest. rogers has not shown an ability to people, that is prevent them from going for bigs days when he's defending.

I will attempt to locate stats for rogers, as i not have hard ones at my disposal. Do you?[/quote]

Fine, I'll clarify.

Romo looked good in his first NFL start aganist a team that couldn't convert on 3rd downs, dropped TD catches and fumbled the ball. Real solid Carolina team there. I gave props to their only decent option: Smith.

The Bucs [I]are[/I] terrible, Gradkowski isn't lighting the world on fire anymore.

McNabb and the Eagles played against crappy teams and are now playing real teams...result = 3 straight losses and a QB that's going to take more risky chances to try to win = more INT's.

The Giants don't particularly worry me. Their not a fanatstic team. They're playing great D currently but it won't last. It never does with them. Don't discount division games and home field advantage.

The Saints are average. They looked like crap versus the Ravens sans offensive coordinator. Their defense is terrible. The offense is actually good. Terrible D + good O = average team.

The Rams? Real scary defense there nowadays. They might win but I' not betting on them.

The Redskins have had time to sit back and identify problems, work on those issues and rest up for a decent second half + 1 game run. I'm not predicting a 9 - 0 record but I see more wins than losses. 6 - 3 down the stretch to finish 8 - 8. Sorry, I like being a fan(atic). Being a follower for over two decades has give me the ability to be unreasonably hopeful and I like being obnoxiously optimistic versus down-troddenly pessimistic.

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do you really think its a lack of faith in Archuleta or perhaps a lack of faith in both players?

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I appreciate the clarication...

1) Nobody can be convinced of romo, but the cowboys did dominate us with Drew and TO on the sideline...we can't stop the run

2) bucs are not terrible, and their D has firmed up, and i give us a good CHANCE to win (ie one of our few W's).

3) McNabb played Crappy teams, and is now playing real teams...one of those "real" teams that they just lost to was the Bucs. They also barely lost to the giants (ie gave the game away), who then destroyed us...

4) Giants should worry us...their D has firmed up- and it started with the game vs the Skins. I won't discount the FedEx advantage, but how many fans will have sold their tickets to Giants by then? or worse how many fans will be rowdy in week 17?

5) Agreed with Saints. However, Average - Below Average = win
or average is still > below average (which is where the skins are...)

6) Rams can score. Can we? Holt and Bruce along will run wild. S. Jackson is coming on strong as well.

Addressing our own problems:

D can't cover, and therefore can't comit to blitzes. without blitzes, we don't get pressure on the QB, which gives him time to pick apart the D or allows for larger holes to run..

O can't consistently score. We don't move the ball well, our QB has happy feet and checks down far too often and early. Our line is confused as to our identify (do we run?) Portis is confused to his role (why are they using him?) and the recievers are frustrated bc they aren't getting balls. Saunders even seems frustrated that Brunell is still at QB...(re: thats a decision for the head coach comment)

so while we pick apart the short comings of other teams...lets consider our own listed above...all totalled, can we realistically expect to win many of those games?

I appreciate your optimism, and hope its comes to fruition, however i clearly don't share it. 8-8 is bold, but even at .500 I'm not sure it gets us into the playoffs given our record against division foes. I also hope that a bye week to identify and cure our ailments is enough, however, i remain skeptical as we've been unable to accomplish this task in the 7 weeks preceeding.



[quote=724Skinsfan;236991]Fine, I'll clarify.

Romo looked good in his first NFL start aganist a team that couldn't convert on 3rd downs, dropped TD catches and fumbled the ball. Real solid Carolina team there. I gave props to their only decent option: Smith.

The Bucs [I]are[/I] terrible, Gradkowski isn't lighting the world on fire anymore.

McNabb and the Eagles played against crappy teams and are now playing real teams...result = 3 straight losses and a QB that's going to take more risky chances to try to win = more INT's.

The Giants don't particularly worry me. Their not a fanatstic team. They're playing great D currently but it won't last. It never does with them. Don't discount division games and home field advantage.

The Saints are average. They looked like crap versus the Ravens sans offensive coordinator. Their defense is terrible. The offense is actually good. Terrible D + good O = average team.

The Rams? Real scary defense there nowadays. They might win but I' not betting on them.

The Redskins have had time to sit back and identify problems, work on those issues and rest up for a decent second half + 1 game run. I'm not predicting a 9 - 0 record but I see more wins than losses. 6 - 3 down the stretch to finish 8 - 8. Sorry, I like being a fan(atic). Being a follower for over two decades has give me the ability to be unreasonably hopeful and I like being obnoxiously optimistic versus down-troddenly pessimistic.[/quote]

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[quote=TAFKAS;236986] And, unfortunately, people tend to compare Rogers to Smoot. And Smoot is put on a higher pedestal by a lot of people just because he's no longer a Redskin. So he's seen as yet another stud we let get away. But if you look at the numbers, Smoot's really aren't better than Rogers' and Carlos hasn't embarrassed the organization with
any extracurricular activities. 'LOS SMACK![/quote]

Smoot should never be considered a stud at the cornerback position. He was a fan favorite because he had personality, but he was a horrible tackler and he covered like Deion Sanders, minus Sanders' natural ability. He was above average, but if he didn't have the mouth, no one would know who he is. Rogers is at least as good or better than Smoot was in his second season, overall.

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[B]I hate arguing point for point but...[/B]

I appreciate the clarication...

1) Nobody can be convinced of romo, but the cowboys did dominate us with Drew and TO on the sideline...we can't stop the run
[B] TO and Bledsoe played against us. TO broke his finger. We really can't stop the big pass play if I'm going to point out a specific glaring weakness.[/B]

2) bucs are not terrible, and their D has firmed up, and i give us a good CHANCE to win (ie one of our few W's).
[B]The Bucs are not good. They are a poor man's Baltimore Ravens team right now.[/B]

3) McNabb played Crappy teams, and is now playing real teams...one of those "real" teams that they just lost to was the Bucs. They also barely lost to the giants (ie gave the game away), who then destroyed us...
[B]Three straight losses shows me some sort of problem.[/B]

4) Giants should worry us...their D has firmed up- and it started with the game vs the Skins. I won't discount the FedEx advantage, but how many fans will have sold their tickets to Giants by then? or worse how many fans will be rowdy in week 17?
[B]If your not in the playoff hunt then the next place is spoiler role. [/B]

5) Agreed with Saints. However, Average - Below Average = win
or average is still > below average (which is where the skins are...)
[B]The Saints have above expectations, we're playing below. Something's gotta give like it does every year for most teams.[/B]

6) Rams can score. Can we? Holt and Bruce along will run wild. S. Jackson is coming on strong as well.
[B]We can score. The potential is there. Ask the Jaguars and Texans. Well, just ask the Jag's. [/B]

Addressing our own problems:

D can't cover, and therefore can't comit to blitzes. without blitzes, we don't get pressure on the QB, which gives him time to pick apart the D or allows for larger holes to run..

O can't consistently score. We don't move the ball well, our QB has happy feet and checks down far too often and early. Our line is confused as to our identify (do we run?) Portis is confused to his role (why are they using him?) and the recievers are frustrated bc they aren't getting balls. Saunders even seems frustrated that Brunell is still at QB...(re: thats a decision for the head coach comment)

so while we pick apart the short comings of other teams...lets consider our own listed above...all totalled, can we realistically expect to win many of those games?

I appreciate you optimism, and hope its comes to fruition, however i clearly don't share it. 8-8 is bold, but even at .500 I'm not sure it gets us into the playoffs given our record against division foes. I also hope that a bye week to identify and cure our ailments is enough, however, i remain skeptical as we've been unable to accomplish this task in the 7 weeks preceeding. [B]I don't know what's going on with the hed coaches but like I said they'll have had two weeks to work on it like the veteran coaching that they are. And yes my fingers are crossed while typing this.[/B]

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rogers sucks, smoot was good, stop being rediculous

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;236950]:doh:

Please tell me who he has been consistently burned by besides Troy Williamson. It's been rare.[/quote]

As a CB, you don't need to get burned consistently by a WR to be considered a failure. Getting burned for a big play here and there throughout a game is enough to lose.

Rogers has been a major disappointment. We drafted him 9th overall didn't we? He should be handling #1 WRs right now, if not completely shutting them down.

He'll do much better against the #2s. But still, Archuleta and Taylor aren't anywhere close to being on the same page. Their mistakes in coverage are going to expose Rogers for his imperfections. With safety play as bad as we've had, CBs have to be perfect or else they end up looking like shitake mushrooms.

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i agree i guess that some of it is bc of archuleta. i think rogers will a decent #2. i think the entire secondary feels that they have to account for the 4th LB (AA).

its just so hard to understand how are D could fall so far and fast.

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[QUOTE=The Zimmermans;237018]rogers sucks, smoot was good, stop being rediculous[/QUOTE]

"Rediculous" Brud's favorite "werd"

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[quote=The Zimmermans;237018]rogers sucks, smoot was good, stop being rediculous[/quote]

Smoot was good but he wasn't great. The words of the Ramsey haters work well for the Smoot situation too. "[I]He's not coming back. Stop whining.[/I]"

And if saying Rogers doesn't suck is ridiculous, saying that he does suck is ignorant...

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[B]re: for point[/B]

1) you wrote: TO and Bledsoe played against us. TO broke his finger. We really can't stop the big pass play if I'm going to point out a specific glaring weakness.[B]

My point was EVEN with Bledsoe (now benched) and the TO injury, WE still got manhandled. only close due to Rock's runback. what has changed, beside's the cowboy's new QB who wasn't flustered by Carolina's much better D?
[/B]
2) you wrote: The Bucs are not good. They are a poor man's Baltimore Ravens team right now.

[B]The bucs are ok. we have a shot...they did just beat philly. (who by the way you just claimed lost to 3 "Good teams".

[/B] 3) you wrote: Three straight losses shows me some sort of problem.[B]
Weren't the Redskins 2-2? that aside, we frequently have troubles with mcnabb and westbrook. like the giants and dallas, its likely they find their form against the skins...

[/B] 4) you wrote: If your not in the playoff hunt then the next place is spoiler role.
[B]If you are holding on to the spoiler role, i think you are grasping for air...i mean they thoroughly owned us.
brunell tossed for 109 yards and we ran for 78.
Manning tossed for 256 and ran for 155.
final score 19-3. that was after our GREAT game against the jags...
[/B]
5) you wrote: The Saints have above expectations, we're playing below. Something's gotta give like it does every year for most teams.
[B]Miami was considered a superbowl darkhorse, does that mean they should beat chicago this week? There is something to be said for reality, and the reality is, Saints have played well, and the skins haven't.
[/B]
6) you wrote: We can score. The potential is there. Ask the Jaguars and Texans. Well, just ask the Jag's.
[B]Again, reality is key. Rams DO score, while the Skins can score, only in theory. how many points are we averaging?

[/B]

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With the secondary, Springs and Rogers didn't just all of a sudden start sucking balls after performing well last year. They're the same guys.

But Rogers didn't face #1 receivers last year, this year he's had to because Springs was out. Secondly, he had a safety tandem behind him last year that he could trust.

The secondary's problems are almost entirely attributable to Archuleta. He's out of position so often that Taylor has to compensate and often is getting confused. Good QBs take advantage, and since Rogers isn't Champ Bailey, and since our pass rush blows, voila Rogers gets exposed.

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[quote=Schneed10;237021]Rogers has been a major disappointment. We drafted him 9th overall didn't we? He should be handling #1 WRs right now, if not completely shutting them down.[/quote]

This comment goes back to my original statement about Champ Bailey. Redskins fans were spoiled for several seasons while Champ was shutting down receivers week in and week out. Now we expect every corner out of the draft to perform at that level, but the fact is, very few corners before Champ, and none drafted since are as good as he is. Jammer, Newman, Pacman, etc. were all supposed to be the next shutdown corner, but they all get torched from time to time. Even Champ gets beat badly every now and then.

Rogers should be judged against his peers and not his predecessors, and against his peers, he's about equal.

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[B][quote=BrunellMVP?;237026][B]re: for point[/B][/B]
[B]My point was EVEN with Bledsoe (now benched) and the TO injury, WE still got manhandled. only close due to Rock's runback. what has changed, beside's the cowboy's new QB who wasn't flustered by Carolina's much better D? [/B]
[COLOR=blue]We played terrible but take away our INT thrown to Roy Williams on the 1 yard line which resulted in a 99 yard TD drive for Dallas and we have a 3 point ballgame with us playing like crap and the 'Boys manhandling us. Just think if we played average instead of terrible. The same goes for the Vikings game and the Giants game. [/COLOR]


[B]The bucs are ok. we have a shot...they did just beat philly. (who by the way you just claimed lost to 3 "Good teams". [/B]
[COLOR=blue]I didn't say they lost to "good teams". I said they lost 3 games. If we're arguing then we need to make sure we don't put words in the other's mouth/post.[/COLOR]

[B]Weren't the Redskins 2-2? that aside, we frequently have troubles with mcnabb and westbrook. like the giants and dallas, its likely they find their form against the skins...[/B]
[COLOR=blue]Just as likely we'll find our form against them.[/COLOR]

[B]If you are holding on to the spoiler role, i think you are grasping for air...i mean they thoroughly owned us. [/B]
[COLOR=blue]okay[/COLOR]


[B]Miami was considered a superbowl darkhorse, does that mean they should beat chicago this week? There is something to be said for reality, and the reality is, Saints have played well, and the skins haven't.[/B]
[COLOR=blue]Should beat them? no. could beat them? After watching the Arizona/Chicago game then sure Chicago could lose to Miami. The Saints have played well but the stars don't stay aligned forever.[/COLOR]


[B]Again, reality is key. Rams DO score, while the Skins can score, only in theory. how many points are we averaging? [/B]
[COLOR=blue]St Louis is averaging 23 pts/game. We're averaging 20 pts/game. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0000ff][/quote][/COLOR]

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[quote=BrunellMVP?;236948]i do...i love springs, despite his being injury prone, but Rogers is not up to speed yet. He's been consistently burned by WRs no matter who he's been matched up against. while he's seen higher caliber WRs this year, having filled in for Springs, he's been burned badly...i don't think many would consider Williamson from the Vikings or anyone on the titans to be considered legit No. 1 guys. If plexico is covered, toomer will score. if TO is covered Glenn will score. if Stallwort is covered, brown will score. if steve smith then k johnson.[/quote]
Don't you have anything better to do then come up with crap like this thread?
For God's sake man, IT"S DALLAS WEEK!!!!
Don't be such a DOWNER!~

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;236989]I'm not going to blame Carlos for the cushion he gives. Once Springs comes back and all is right in the defensive universe, then we'll see how he fares. The cushion he gives has to be due to GW telling him to give it because he doesn't trust Archuleta to make the tackle.[/quote]I wish our defensive problems were as simple as Springs being out, but we will continued to get beat by the pass if our LBs don't start making plays in the intermediate passing game. Against Indy, Shawn did knock away a pass, and seriously I can't remember any other time when we made a play on the ball. We don't get pressure on the QB nearly as consitently as we need to on third down. In fact, we are just flat out horrid on third down. We always seem to have the worst possible defense called, and execute it as poorly as possible.

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I'd agree that our LBs aren't looking great in coverage. While I WILL defend Holdman's run stopping performance, I would think Rocky would fare much better in coverage.

Is it just me or is Dallas's line nowhere NEAR as much of a concern for them as we all thought it would be?

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I think a lot of that comes from GW too. He doesn't count on his front four a whole lot to apply pressure, hence the reason he calls all these exotic blitz packages.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;237173]I think a lot of that comes from GW too. He doesn't count on his front four a whole lot to apply pressure, hence the reason he calls all these exotic blitz packages.[/QUOTE]

Also Blache, who has in the past said that the "sack" is an overrated stat. It's about disruption, in his opinion

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I'll take the sack please. :doh:

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On Dallas:
We played terrible but take away our INT thrown to Roy Williams on the 1 yard line which resulted in a 99 yard TD drive for Dallas and we have a 3 point ballgame with us playing like crap and the 'Boys manhandling us. Just think if we played average instead of terrible. The same goes for the Vikings game and the Giants game.
[B]if you take away the INT, and give us a TD (eliminating their 99 yard drive, then you should probably take away Rock's long run...same senario. I guess my point is, I'm worried that the way they did play against vikes, dallas and giants WAS average. I don't think you can discount the domination that occurred against the 'boys and g-men.[/B]

On the bucs:
I didn't say they lost to "good teams". I said they lost 3 games. If we're arguing then we need to make sure we don't put words in the other's mouth/post.

[B]semantics, but you stated that they beat three crappy teams and then lost to three "real teams". The implication is that, phili won because of an advantageous early schedule and as they played better teams....so while you are correct you never used the word "good" you did use the word "real". [/B]

On finding our form:
Weren't the Redskins 2-2? that aside, we frequently have troubles with mcnabb and westbrook. like the giants and dallas, its likely they find their form against the skins...
Just as likely we'll find our form against them.
My point was EVEN with Bledsoe (now benched) and the TO injury, WE still got manhandled. only close due to Rock's runback. what has changed, beside's the cowboy's new QB who wasn't flustered by Carolina's much better D?
We played terrible but take away our INT thrown to Roy Williams on the 1 yard line which resulted in a 99 yard TD drive for Dallas and we have a 3 point ballgame with us playing like crap and the 'Boys manhandling us. Just think if we played average instead of terrible. The same goes for the Vikings game and the Giants game.


The bucs are ok. we have a shot...they did just beat philly. (who by the way you just claimed lost to 3 "Good teams".
I didn't say they lost to "good teams". I said they lost 3 games. If we're arguing then we need to make sure we don't put words in the other's mouth/post.

Weren't the Redskins 2-2? that aside, we frequently have troubles with mcnabb and westbrook. like the giants and dallas, its likely they find their form against the skins...
Just as likely we'll find our form against them.
[B]fair enough. lets hope...[/B]

on scoring:
St Louis is averaging 23 pts/game. We're averaging 20 pts/game
[B]closer than i thought (as are the stats), i would say, that 3 pts is not insignificant in the NFL...add three and change, and we beat minn and tenn.[/B]

Re: Bearish Season Prediction
 

St. Louis would destroy us right now, imagine tryin to stop bulger with our D-line and Secondary, he's only thrown 1 pic!!! We would at least be able to run the ball against them, but that has proven not enough since we fall behind so often.