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i'm sorry if you've seen this before but i can't get enough.

i think we need to remind people who might be saying sean taylor is overrated. HE AIN'T!!

i love the part when he elbows TO in the face!!!

Sean taylor-the years

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfPeqVDhpk4&mode=related&search]YouTube - Sean Taylor-The seasons[/url]=

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Im all for Taylor, but Id like to see more big plays out of him

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If anything he is way underrated. This year he has had to cover the whole field, and mop up for AA.

It is more likely that the casual NFL fan will know about Roy Williams over Sean Taylor.

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By the way I think this is the first thread, that was ever moved from the Parking Lot TO the Locker Room. lol.

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is that good or bad?

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It does seem that Sean has regressed a little this year. His coverage doesn't seem to be as good but you could argue that the defense isn't putting him in situations to succeed.

It is annoying that they waste the talents of their best player.

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i just hope they don't let him go to another team like pierce, smoot, etc.

i hope to god they give him a generous contract extension and make him our franchise player. he is well worth the money.

if they let him leave, i don't know if i can call my self a redskin fan, it would suck that bad

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The end of this article might help explain some of Taylor's difficulties this year: [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/28/AR2006102800572.html]Redskins Pay Price For Moves - washingtonpost.com[/url]

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Skins faithful seem to make Taylor out to be a football god, which he isn't. To be honest he is good at best and far from amazing.

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I hope that having both of our starting CB's will allow our Safeties to play the game that they're used to. Hopefully our D can step up and make a stand towards the end of the season, since they decided to take the beginning off...

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[QUOTE=saden1;237118]Skins faithful seem to make Taylor out to be a football god, which he isn't. To be honest he is good at best and far from amazing.[/QUOTE]

He is no football god. I have seen Taylor make some big time mistakes this year, but he is pretty amazing. He has amazing game speed and he makes the wide receivers afraid to run routes over the middle.

Also, have you seen him force a fumble. He has a special type of awareness where he can make a solid tackle, plus rip out the ball at the same time. I have witnessed that at least twice this season.

Finally, I have seen him cover Randy Moss, TO, Jeremy Shockey, and various others in one-on-one situations and hold his own. In fact, I distinctly remember him completely jumping OVER Jeremy Shockey to break up a pass. He also tackled Randy Moss, who was bobbling a ball in the air, and never took his eyes off the ball. Taylor made a great tackle while watching and batting the ball away.

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[QUOTE=Winskins;237137]He is no football god. I have seen Taylor make some big time mistakes this year, but he is pretty amazing. He has amazing game speed and he makes the wide receivers afraid to run routes over the middle.

Also, have you seen him force a fumble. He has a special type of awareness where he can make a solid tackle, plus rip out the ball at the same time. I have witnessed that at least twice this season.

Finally, I have seen him cover Randy Moss, TO, Jeremy Shockey, and various others in one-on-one situations and hold his own. In fact, I distinctly remember him completely jumping OVER Jeremy Shockey to break up a pass. He also tackled Randy Moss, who was bobbling a ball in the air, and never took his eyes off the ball. Taylor made a great tackle while watching and batting the ball away.[/QUOTE]

I guess we have different take on what constitutes amazing. If you look at all the mistakes he makes he falls short of amazing. I mean, Roy Williams of the Cowboys makes plays quite a bit and I don't hear anyone in here calling him amazing.

Barry Sanders is amazing, Taylor is not...not yet anyways :)

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i hope he doesnt end up like lavar, with people knowing he has the physical ability. that ability. just not translating to sucess on the field. i know me, personally, have expected bigger and better things out of sean taylor. right now he is just a good nfl player

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With the state of our D, Taylor and Arch were having to cover way to much. Last time I looked, they were the leading tacklers on the team................that's a problem

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taylor hasnt been able to make the bug plays this year. there is a reason behind this he is playing with archelta both are the hard hitting types of safteys. taylor has speed but i think u can use him better with more of a cover safety back there with him like a ryan clark from last year

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[QUOTE=Winskins;237110]The end of this article might help explain some of Taylor's difficulties this year: [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/28/AR2006102800572.html]Redskins Pay Price For Moves - washingtonpost.com[/url][/QUOTE]

here:

"By signing Archuleta, the Redskins decided that last year's starter at his position, Clark, was expendable. Clark's departure for the Steelers has left a void in the locker room, Redskins players say, and has particularly affected safety Sean Taylor, whose play has faltered this season.

Taylor has had considerable off-field issues since being drafted in 2004 -- including arrests for DUI and felony gun charges (he was convicted of neither) -- and Clark, a devoted family man, was said to be a positive influence.

Taylor would often eat at his house and play video games with Clark's children, team sources said. On the field, Clark had mastered the defense and would talk constantly with Taylor, aligning him, shouting directions, helping him anticipate the next play.

At least two veterans have called Clark this season for suggestions on how to reach Taylor, team sources said, and believe Taylor's problems in coverage and making in-game adjustments are directly related to Clark's departure.

"When you have a guy that's a little bit distant or introverted, sometimes it only takes one out of 53 guys to reach him," said one veteran Redskin, asking that his name not be used. "Ryan was that guy for Sean, and it's a big loss. Now Sean is trying to teach Adam and help him along, but that's not who he is. He's a guy you just need to get pointed in the right direction on the field, make sure he knows his assignment and let him go after the ball."

Clark's agent, Joel Turner, said that had the Redskins offered something close to Pittsburgh's deal -- $7 million over four years with $1.65 million guaranteed -- at any point in the 2005 season, Clark would have remained in Washington. Keeping Clark at that rate also would have given the team additional money under the salary cap to add a top place kicker or linebacker."


Tragic. absolutely tragic.

and people here still disparage Clark while he was here, except for one stiffarm, everything said about Ryan Clark was positive last year..

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Give Sean Taylor the front seven playing in front of Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, or Roy Williams, and he would be the best safety in football by a wide margin. And remember, Taylor is only 23 years old - he has many great years ahead of him and his contract is very cap friendly after this season. If our front office has a clue, he should be signed to an extension before his current contract expires, because he will command HUGE dollars on the free agent market. The ridiculous contract we gave Archuleta ensures that.

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I only watched about half of it and noticed taylor getting to the qb on 2 blitzes,has he done that this yr? he needs to,were not getting much pressure anywhere else

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[quote=htownskinfan;237202]I only watched about half of it and noticed taylor getting to the qb on 2 blitzes,has he done that this yr? he needs to,were not getting much pressure anywhere else[/quote]
The problem blitzing Taylor is that it leaves Archeleta as our last line of defense downfield - a very scary thought. One of the long TD passes the Jags got a few weeks back came on a Taylor blitz. I prefer him patroling the middle and scaring the hell out of opposing WRs. The only defensive highlights of the first Dallas game was T.O.'s obvious fear of #21. Taylor's amazing forced fumble of Julius Jones was pretty sweet as well.

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[quote=SouperMeister;237209]The problem blitzing Taylor is that it leaves Archeleta as our last line of defense downfield - a very scary thought. One of the long TD passes the Jags got a few weeks back came on a Taylor blitz. I prefer him patroling the middle and scaring the hell out of opposing WRs. The only defensive highlights of the first Dallas game was T.O.'s obvious fear of #21. Taylor's amazing forced fumble of Julius Jones was pretty sweet as well.[/quote]

Thos thiings were good, but not AMAZING. Taylor doesnt make good plays on the ball. He plays like a linebacker, not a safety, maybe we should move him up. I think we need more speed and quickness at safety, while we need more aggressiveness at the OLB spot. Taylor is a terrific tackler, but doesnt read the ball in the air that well, and he is known to bite on qb fakes. He's the franchise right now, with portis.

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[quote=The Zimmermans;237212]Thos thiings were good, but not AMAZING. Taylor doesnt make good plays on the ball. He plays like a linebacker, not a safety, maybe we should move him up. I think we need more speed and quickness at safety, while we need more aggressiveness at the OLB spot. Taylor is a terrific tackler, but doesnt read the ball in the air that well, and he is known to bite on qb fakes. He's the franchise right now, with portis.[/quote]

Apparently you have only been watching Taylor this season. Taylor is a beast, and he isnt that bad at pass coverage, when there is a decent corner, and he is not matched one on one. Not too many safeties in the league, can do that, so your expectations are unrealistic.

Your description of ST is more accurate for AA, who is even worst at all those things, he bits very hard, and all he can do is tackle. Right now the coaching staff has seen that, and if you look at film, Arch plays closer to the line, while Taylor drops. More or less of a cover 1, where Taylor has the whole backfield as his responsibility. Although Taylor gets smoked, this is the best thing we can do at this point, because our line cant generate pressure, so AA must try to get there, and ST is responsible for the rest. Without decent corners, the best safeties in the league are toast.

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I don't think taylor is doing a bad job....he's our one spark on defense. I was just wondering if we would help us more as a converted linebacker, dont you think he could be an amazing OLB???? And he doesnt go well with Arch, I hope vincent stays in there, i dont wanna see #40 every again.

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yeah that part about clark and taylor makes me depressed.

of course we had to sex up the defense with that cocksuck adam archuleta...

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[quote=The Zimmermans;237221]I don't think taylor is doing a bad job....he's our one spark on defense. I was just wondering if we would help us more as a converted linebacker, dont you think he could be an amazing OLB???? And he doesnt go well with Arch, I hope vincent stays in there, i dont wanna see #40 every again.[/quote]

You still don't seem to be getting it. It is not Taylor that doesn't go well with Arch. It is ARCH that doesnt go well with Taylor, or the rest of the defense in this case. It was a huge mistake, and Taylor is a good safety, who can cover well too if the overall D improved(Look at all his highlight films of coverage plays before this year).

Moving him to position he doesn't know how to play isn't gonna help. Taylor is good at attacking and stopping the run, because he knows how to run around players that have already been blocked. I dont know how well Taylor can shed Olinemen blocking.

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i am aware that arch doesnt go well with him, but we are stuck with arch for the moment. So I was suggesting something we could do with what we have. Taylor makes way too many tackles from the safety spot, indicated a big weakness at linebacker.

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we need clark! trade AA for Clark now!!!!!!

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[quote=The Zimmermans;237264]i am aware that arch doesnt go well with him, but we are stuck with arch for the moment. So I was suggesting something we could do with what we have. Taylor makes way too many tackles from the safety spot, indicated a big weakness at linebacker.[/quote]

AA is leading the teams in tackles, it signifies that in general that our LBs suck. Why would Taylor be a safety? Still doesnt make sense, who would play safety for him? Arch? AA is far worst in coverage. If anything, if this crazy idea were to ever be put into place, then AA would be safety.

That being said, it is a ridiculous idea.

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[quote=SouperMeister;237189]Give Sean Taylor the front seven playing in front of Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, or Roy Williams, and he would be the best safety in football by a wide margin. And remember, Taylor is only 23 years old - he has many great years ahead of him and his contract is very cap friendly after this season. If our front office has a clue, he should be signed to an extension before his current contract expires, because he will command HUGE dollars on the free agent market. The ridiculous contract we gave Archuleta ensures that.[/quote]


I guarantee he will hold out within the next two years. Especially if they continue to play like dogs***.