"with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..."
 

i'm joking. i hope it doesnt come down to this but who would you pick if we end up having a 1-5 pick in the draft knowing what we need?

personally i would pick gains adams, or paul pusluzny(at least i was close)\

whats the deal with the draft picks and denver again?

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As far as the Denver Deal: If we both have a 1st round draft pick #21-32, and we are lower, we swap picks. If we have draft pick #20 or lower, we keep it.

If we have a top ten pick, I say trade the shit out of it.

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we have a first round pick??

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Yeah, I'd say trade it, but if we trade it into those rounds that apply to the Denver trade, do we still have to trade with them?

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if we got the #1 pick (not happening) we would definitely trade down. someone would pay a lot to get brady quinn or peterson or johnson or whoever it is

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[quote=illdefined;244888]we have a first round pick??[/quote]

i know isn't it wonderful!?!

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The problem with trading is you also have to be able to find a trade partner. I heard rumors that SF was trying to trade the 1st overall like crazy when they took Alex Smith but couldn't find anyone. If we can make a trade on draft day for more picks, Im down!

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but if an impact, amazing, game changing player is there, dont you take him?

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[quote=dall-assblows;244901]but if an impact, amazing, game changing player is there, dont you take him?[/quote]

Evidently not... Look at the Texans this past draft...

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Why not use a first round pick to draft a cornerback. That is a problem that needs to be addressed with Springs only with a few more years and Rogers struggling recently. Josh Wilson of Maryland will be a stud in the NFL and another quality pick out of Maryland in the last few years.

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we can get a corner through FA. like that bufflo dude, i forget his name

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Rogers hasn't been struggling. Seriously. It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;244896]The problem with trading is you also have to be able to find a trade partner. I heard rumors that SF was trying to trade the 1st overall like crazy when they took Alex Smith but couldn't find anyone. If we can make a trade on draft day for more picks, Im down![/QUOTE]

wasnt that one of the worst drafts projected or something? this draft is full of awesome talent (quinn, adrian pederson, calvin johnson, brohm...) there will be plenty of teams that want that pick. anyone with a top 5 pick is set

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;244912]Rogers hasn't been struggling. Seriously. It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.[/QUOTE]

that is not what greg williams said, or post game said. they said he is afraid of getting burned and he gives himself that cushion.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;244896]The problem with trading is you also have to be able to find a trade partner. I heard rumors that SF was trying to trade the 1st overall like crazy when they took Alex Smith but couldn't find anyone. If we can make a trade on draft day for more picks, Im down![/QUOTE]

they were having trouble because no one thought alex smith or arron rodgers are studs like brady quinn

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If we're picking top 5, then I would definitely trade down to get more mid-round picks. I think the first thing to address is the line......it doesn't matter which one...offense or defense.

I know Malcolm mentioned earlier that he was happy with Golston, and I agree, but I think Salave'a will be gone and we'll need much more depth. As for the o-line, if we can get a stud guard to replace/challenge Dockery, I'm all for it. Maybe a lineman who can play both guard and center.....

Of course another position to address would be the corner position or safety.

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I like the idea of Gaines Adams. He is plug and play. Who is the monster MLB this year?

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If we have a top 5 pick, we could most likely trade it for a lower 1st and a early 2nd/middle 2nd or more. Teams that feel like they just need that one player salivate over high draft picks. Unless there is a can't miss beast of a player sitting there then maybe, but we need depth!!

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[quote=Big C;244918]that is not what greg williams said, or post game said. they said he is afraid of getting burned and he gives himself that cushion.[/quote]

i think thats goes back to his first preseason game ever, when he was burn't twice by tj who'syourmama

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well damn, if we have a 1st rounder, then we REALLY have no reason to not play Campbell..

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posluzny is a stud at WLB OR MLB what ever positon he plays

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CB!! Can never have enough good CB! Greg D needs CB that can go one on one.

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Not a QB. Very, very, bad risk/cost to reward ratio with 1st round QBs.

That said, obviously depending on quality of players available, either side of the line or CB. Probably don't need to go WR.

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this just in the redskins trade their first rounder and a 4th and 6th for tony gonzales!! ( would you be surprised?)

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Unfortunately, I can't see us trading down. I'd love for us to trade down to get a 1st and 2nd.

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We will trade down to 15th, accumulate a second rounder and then trade the second rounder to move up to 13th for a runningback.

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[quote=3rd ID SOLDIER;245083]this just in the redskins trade their first rounder and a 4th and 6th for tony gonzales!! ( would you be surprised?)[/quote]

Not high enough. First rounder in '07 and '08 maybe...

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Big C -- I agree, with a top 5 pick this year you can trade down and get very nice value, but Im not sold we'll have a top 5 pick this year yet. We wont have a good pick, but doubt we get top 5.

As far as replacing Dockery, this guy has had a realtively good season and has shown solid progression each year in the league. As fans we constantly complain about the FOs lack of patience and letting talent develop, Dockery is developing. Wanna toss an O-linemen under the bus, it's time for a new RT. Jon "Turnstyle" Jansen isn't cutting it anymore.

I still think we fix our defense up. A lot of it depends on what FAs (You know we're going after some) and picks we have. I'd like to see another corner myself. I think Rogers will be just fine, Corner is a tough position, especially in Williams defense, but Springs isnt getting any younger and I'd like to have a guy who knows the system is Springs goes down or retired in the next couple years (that said, Nate Clements will probably be a Washington Redskin, thus eliminating this need, from a 1st round pick standpoint). I think LB will be fine with Washington, Marshall, and McIntosh. D line could use some depth. O line could use some depth.

For the most part -- leave this team alone! Hold on to Vincent and Priolou (sp?) make minor changes where needed, but let these guys gel! No big changes. Work on depth instead of starters.

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yeah what he said shit can holdman!

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yeah i dont think we will get a top 5 pick. somewhere in the top ten is more likely if we dont go on a little win streak, 8-10 is probably our range right now. still will be good value there, brohm, teddy gin, etc. where good value can be had for teams wanting these players

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[quote=dall-assblows;244895]i know isn't it wonderful!?![/quote]

I think you mean woderful...

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;244912]Rogers hasn't been struggling. Seriously. It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.[/QUOTE]
On redskins postgame show, Brian Mitchell asked Greg Williams about the cushion and he said that it looked like carlos was worried about his footing and getting beat by Stallworth. GW said he was going to work on that will carlos this week.

But I agree with both of opinion, He is struggling and part of it is coaching. Too much cushion and too much zone. He needs to get on the line and bump WR's.
THere's no point in having big cornerbacks if we arent going to bump them at the line.

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[quote=Gmanc711;244887]As far as the Denver Deal: If we both have a 1st round draft pick #21-32, and we are lower, we swap picks. If we have draft pick #20 or lower, we keep it.[COLOR=black]If we have a top ten pick, I say trade the shit out of it.[/COLOR][/quote]

[COLOR=black]This is a bad idea...this is the Skins problem, they need to avoid flooding our roster with free agents every off-season and start building our team around the draft. We are starting to be a joke around the league whenever a "big name" free agent becomes available. Maybe we should trade Vinny this offseason.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]As much as this hurts for me to say... but I admire Philly for the way their organization has run lately as far as personnel; Damn near all of their starters were drafted by them.[/COLOR]

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As far as how likely it is the Skins get the first pick....

While there are a number of 3-6 teams, the only teams with a worse record right now:

TEN (2-7)
OAK (2-7)
DET (2-7)
TB (2-6)
ARI (1-8)

In essence, the Skins are only 2 games out of dead last.

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[quote=jamf;245251]On redskins postgame show, Brian Mitchell asked Greg Williams about the cushion and he said that it looked like carlos was worried about his footing and getting beat by Stallworth. GW said he was going to work on that will carlos this week.

But I agree with both of opinion, He is struggling and part of it is coaching. Too much cushion and too much zone. He needs to get on the line and bump WR's.
THere's no point in having big cornerbacks if we arent going to bump them at the line.[/quote]
Finally! Someone hears me.

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If they're at the top of the first round they need to go for a Defensive linemen. DE or DT, I don't care. I'm sick of mediocre play from the front four. I also think that having a dominant guy on the line next to Carter would make him much better. He's not a top flite pass rusher. However, he could be a 10 sack guy if we got one across from him. That's just my opinion.

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[quote=Big C;245240]yeah i dont think we will get a top 5 pick. somewhere in the top ten is more likely if we dont go on a little win streak, 8-10 is probably our range right now. still will be good value there, brohm, teddy gin, etc. where good value can be had for teams wanting these players[/quote]

If they pick Ted Gin I am boycotting Fed-Ex.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;244912]It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.[/quote]You know what, I think I agree with you. Although, I must say your reasoning sounds famililar. :cheeky-sm

Rogers lacks top end speed and cover skills (explaining the cushion). But he has been the league's [B][U]best[/U][/B] tackling CB in the run game since he broke in (it's why GW took him in the top 10), and the importance of that cannot be understated. He will never be the best cover CB in the lineup, but you want him in the lineup for his run stuffing ability.

I think he needs to play smarter on third down and learn to take risks. But he will be our no. 2 corner for years to come and be good at it.

And he looked great against Philadelphia this week in man.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;245356]If they pick Ted Gin I am boycotting Fed-Ex.[/quote]I hear that.

I wouldn't actually do it, but that might be the worst pick...ever.

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[quote=Big C;244894]if we got the #1 pick (not happening) we would definitely trade down. someone would pay a lot to get brady quinn or peterson or johnson or whoever it is[/quote]


I think it's very possible that we could have the number one pick. The schedule is pretty tough down the stretch. We have TB, Philly, Giants, Carolina, Falcons, Saints and Rams. Those games could EASILY all be losses. We are looking at 3-13 or 4-12.