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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-14-2006 01:05 PM

The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Although I have frequently criticized Mark Brunell (in 2004, 2005, and 2006) and certainly agree with Gibbs' decision to bench him, I just want to thank Mark Brunell for his efforts. Mark Brunell helped get this team our first playoff berth and victory since 1999. Although Mark Brunell wasn't the sole reason for our team's victories last season, he certainly contributed.

I also want to thank Brunell for being eternally classy. Brunell did not whine, at least publicly, about his benching in 2004 or 2006. Brunell did not refuse to tutor Jason Campbell when we drafted him. Brunell has never thrown anyone under the bus to justify the team's struggles. Brunell has always shown class, even when fans did not show him similar respect at FedEx Field.

So, in sum, thanks Mark for your efforts and class. Although you're days as the Redskins starting quarterback are likely over, you've had a great career.

(Yes I am pretending that Mark will actually see this).

JoeRedskin 11-14-2006 01:07 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;245747]Although I have frequently criticized Mark Brunell (in 2004, 2005, and 2006) and certainly agree with Gibbs' decision to bench him, I just want to thank Mark Brunell for his efforts. Mark Brunell helped get this team our first playoff berth and victory since 1999. Although Mark Brunell wasn't the sole reason for our team's victories last season, he certainly contributed.

I also want to thank Brunell for being eternally classy. Brunell did not whine, at least publicly, about his benching in 2004 or 2006. Brunell did not refuse to tutor Jason Campbell when we drafted him. Brunell has never thrown anyone under the bus to justify the team's struggles. Brunell has always shown class, even when fans did not show him similar respect at FedEx Field.

So, in sum, thanks Mark for your efforts and class. Although you're days as the Redskins starting quarterback are likely over, you've had a great career.

(Yes I am pretending that Mark will actually see this).[/QUOTE]

Nice. I heartily agree.

Beemnseven 11-14-2006 01:08 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Mark isn't flying off to Tokyo or anything. He's not being "sent down" to NFL Europe.

I don't think we've seen the last of #8 this year. Gibbs just won't have it.

SmootSmack 11-14-2006 01:10 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
You're a bold man for starting this thread SGG. I agree with the intent but I know there is a lot of "F You Brunell" sentiment out there

EternalEnigma21 11-14-2006 01:11 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
I think he's done.

I'd like to say thanks for the best dallas monday night game I've ever seen. You'll always be remembered in a positive light here, as long as gibbs doesn't yank Campbell the first time he throws a pick and puts you back in there to stink it up some more.

Peace!

skinsguy 11-14-2006 01:11 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
SGG, I think you pretty much stated what I would have said as well. Mark has been a class act, and I truly believe he gave it his all on the field. I think he's served as a good mentor to Jason Campbell.

One thing I have to thank Mark Brunell (and Santana Moss) for is week two 2005 season against Dallas! Nuff said!

12thMan 11-14-2006 01:12 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Dude, screw effort and class...that shit is for the birds....seriously. We need football players. Mark couldn't cut in Jacksonville and he didn't here either.

Frankly, I hope Collins is the number two next year behind JC. Enough of this gushing over Brunell.

hesscl34 11-14-2006 01:13 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Mark, you are a class act. You are tough as nails and you play your guts out and do what is asked of you. When you screw up, you admit that you screwed up - no excuses. You were/are a true leader. I’m sorry that you didn’t reach the Superbowl with the Skins. I really wanted that for you because I think you deserve it. Thank you for the Brunell to Moss memories. They are some of the best memories we Skins fans will ever have.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-14-2006 01:14 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS;245754]You're a bold man for starting this thread SGG. I agree with the intent but I know there is a lot of "F You Brunell" sentiment out there[/QUOTE]

I think there was a lot of "F You Brunell" sentiment out there while he was the starter. I was pissed about Brunell's performance, but no one, not even former Ramsey-fans, can doubt that he's been classy, helped get us to a playoff victory, and has had a great career.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-14-2006 01:16 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;245758]Dude, screw effort and class...that shit is for the birds....seriously. We need football players. Mark couldn't cut in Jacksonville and he didn't here either.

Frankly, I hope Collins is the number two next year behind JC. Enough of this gushing over Brunell.[/QUOTE]

I guess you so readily dismiss class and effort because you, as a Redskins fan, haven't had to deal with T.O. or Randy Moss. I know a lot of Vikings and Eagles fans who think class and effort are things you pay a premium for.

By the way, I haven't been gushing over Brunell, I'm just giving the man some thanks while recognizing the need to move on.

hurrykaine 11-14-2006 01:17 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Thanks Mark for leading us back against Dallas in Sept05. Despite your limitations as a QB, you were and are a class act on and off the field. Apologies to you and your family for some of the harsh things that have been said about you and your abilities at a player. Look forward to your support for Campbell.

12thMan 11-14-2006 01:19 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;245762]I guess you so readily dismiss class and effort because you, as a Redskins fan, haven't had to deal with T.O. or Randy Moss. I know a lot of Vikings and Eagles fans who think class and effort are things you pay a premium for.[/quote]


No, I've just had it with the class act speech every where I turn. I'm tired of the this guy has heart and he's a class act...so what.

T.O. and Moss are at the other end of the pendulum, by the way.

GhettoDogAllStars 11-14-2006 01:19 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Thank you Mark Brunell ... and thank you universe for your generous blessings!!!! ;)

12thMan 11-14-2006 01:19 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
I might add, I think I could be one helluva class act for $43 million.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-14-2006 01:26 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;245768]I might add, I think I could be one helluva class act for $43 million.[/QUOTE]

There are a lot of players who could not. Class, effort, and all those other intangibles mean a lot to team chemistry. Thus, Gibbs has always emphasized such characteristics. Classy and effort-guys are becoming a rarer breed in the NFL and I value guys who show both class and effort.

I guess we differ; we both value results (W v. L) above everything else, I just think class and effort help teams get those all-important Ws. Did Brunell's class deliver us victories? Nope, but I value them nonetheless and think they certainly helped.

hesscl34 11-14-2006 01:28 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Did Brunell's class deliver us victories? Nope, but I value them nonetheless and think they certainly helped.[/quote]
[COLOR=black] [/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]Um, yes. Second round of the playoffs. I would consider that victories. [/COLOR]

MTK 11-14-2006 01:30 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
He's a classy guy who gave it his best, but in the end he just didn't have enough left in the tank. At least he helped give us some exciting wins over Dallas, and the Jacksonville win this year was great too.

TheMalcolmConnection 11-14-2006 01:31 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Nice career Mark. Clap, clap, clap. I'll remember the Monday Night Miracle and that is all.

MTK 11-14-2006 01:32 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Honestly, if you don't have anything positive to add to the conversation there are plenty of F you Brunell threads already going on. Let's keep this thread positive since that was the purpose of SGG posting it. Let's at least respect the intent of the thread.

skinsguy 11-14-2006 01:38 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;245758]Dude, screw effort and class...that shit is for the birds....seriously. We need football players. Mark couldn't cut in Jacksonville and he didn't here either.

Frankly, I hope Collins is the number two next year behind JC. Enough of this gushing over Brunell.[/QUOTE]

Dude...seriously, let it go. If you don't have anything nice to say about the guy, just don't post here or post your ill-tempered posts in the millions of "F-U Brunell" threads that can be found on every page of this forum.

12thMan 11-14-2006 01:48 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;245779]There are a lot of players who could not. Class, effort, and all those other intangibles mean a lot to team chemistry. Thus, Gibbs has always emphasized such characteristics. Classy and effort-guys are becoming a rarer breed in the NFL and I value guys who show both class and effort.

I guess we differ; we both value results (W v. L) above everything else, I just think class and effort help teams get those all-important Ws. Did Brunell's class deliver us victories? Nope, but I value them nonetheless and think they certainly helped.[/quote]


I tell you what, our 'character' up until now, has gotten us very little in the win column. And I'm starting to be of the opinion that maybe we have too many 'classy' guys in our locker room.

PWNED 11-14-2006 01:49 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
i will thank him for not bitchign and not slamming the fans even when we were assholes to him.

Southpaw 11-14-2006 01:49 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=skinsguy;245807]Dude...seriously, let it go. If you don't have anything nice to say about the guy, just don't post here or post your ill-tempered posts in the millions of "F-U Brunell" threads that can be found on every page of this forum.[/quote]

Not to derail the thread too much, but it's funny how Brunell was benched less than 24 hours ago, and everyone has to "let it go" in reference to their negative feelings towards his performance. Yet, all the Brunell supporters STILL slam [backup Jets QB] on a regular basis. But yeah, let's handle Brunell like an injured puppy...

But I would like to give Brunell props for managing the team fairly well for 2/3's of the season last year. He does seem like a nice guy, and I've actually felt bad at times for slamming him, but that's to be expected when you're a starting quarterback in Washington.

12thMan 11-14-2006 01:51 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=skinsguy;245807]Dude...seriously, let it go. If you don't have anything nice to say about the guy, just don't post here or post your ill-tempered posts in the millions of "F-U Brunell" threads that can be found on every page of this forum.[/quote]

First of all, I don't owe Brunell any nice comments, and I don't think my posts are ill-tempered. And don't tell me where to post either.

redsk1 11-14-2006 01:51 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
MB is a class act and should be commended for his efforts and his patience w/ the media every week. The fact of the matter is not everybody can do what nfl qb's can, in fact about 20 people in the world do it above average. I have often critized mb but have never taken the personal jabs that many on this board do.

SmootSmack 11-14-2006 01:51 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;245827]I tell you what, our 'character' up until now, has gotten us very little in the win column. And I'm starting to be of the opinion that maybe we have too many 'classy' guys in our locker room.[/QUOTE]

I thought you were busy studying?

MTK 11-14-2006 01:52 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=12thMan;245834]First of all, I don't owe Brunell any nice comments, and I don't think my posts are ill-tempered. And don't tell me where to post either.[/quote]

I guess you missed my previous post. Here you go in case you missed it:

Honestly, if you don't have anything positive to add to the conversation there are plenty of F you Brunell threads already going on. Let's keep this thread positive since that was the purpose of SGG posting it. Let's at least respect the intent of the thread.

12thMan 11-14-2006 01:53 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=Mattyk72;245839]I guess you missed my previous post. Here you go in case you missed it:

Honestly, if you don't have anything positive to add to the conversation there are plenty of F you Brunell threads already going on. Let's keep this thread positive since that was the purpose of SGG posting it. Let's at least respect the intent of the thread.[/quote]


So, Matty do you think my posts have been ill-tempered?

MTK 11-14-2006 01:54 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=Southpaw;245830]Not to derail the thread too much, but it's funny how Brunell was benched less than 24 hours ago, and everyone has to "let it go" in reference to their negative feelings towards his performance. Yet, all the Brunell supporters STILL slam [backup Jets QB] on a regular basis. But yeah, let's handle Brunell like an injured puppy...[/quote]

Nobody attacks Ramsey out of the blue. He gets slammed when the Ramsey lovers try to get a pity party going for him.

MTK 11-14-2006 01:56 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=12thMan;245842]So, Matty do you think my posts have been ill-tempered?[/quote]

They are definitely on the negative side, so as I asked let's respect the intent of this thread and keep it positive. There are more than enough Brunell bashing threads already in existence.

Those that respect his efforts here would like to have an opportunity to voice that without someone pissing on the parade for once.

12thMan 11-14-2006 01:57 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=Mattyk72;245846]They are definitely on the negative side, so as I asked let's respect the intent of this thread and keep it positive. There are more than enough Brunell bashing threads already in existence.[/quote

okay.

12thMan 11-14-2006 01:58 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=TAFKAS;245836]I thought you were busy studying?[/quote]


At work right now.

SmootSmack 11-14-2006 02:01 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=Southpaw;245830]Not to derail the thread too much, but it's funny how Brunell was benched less than 24 hours ago, and everyone has to "let it go" in reference to their negative feelings towards his performance. Yet, all the Brunell supporters STILL slam [backup Jets QB] on a regular basis. But yeah, let's handle Brunell like an injured puppy...[/QUOTE]

I think though that most of us who felt Ramsey wasn't the answer never questioned the type of person he is. We've been fortunate that both Ramsey and Brunell have been class guys and Campbell appears to be the same way.

The QB issue hasn't been all that pretty the past few years but it could have been a lot uglier. That's a testament to the character of the players involved and the values instilled by Gibbs

12thMan 11-14-2006 02:03 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
I agree South, but I'm done with it.

hooskins 11-14-2006 02:04 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Thank you Brunell, I will miss the good times. You did bring life to the Skins, when all we had was "Happy Feet" Ramsey. I think Campbell(or atleast hope) has picked up some positives from you.

Thanks for bringing us to the playoffs, and leading us to a win. I could barely remember our win over the Lions ages ago, and I dont remember any of the glory days, so that meant alot to me.

Also am gonna miss you postgame pressers, I swear you looked like Fonzie.

SouperMeister 11-14-2006 02:26 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
Age and injuries are hard to overcome - don't blame Brunell for this 3-6 start, blame Gibbs for waiting too long to make the change.

I'll choose to remember the positives of the Mark Brunell era, particularly the playoff drive last season. His clutch performances in BOTH Cowboys games, and his solid play before getting injured in the crucial Giants game last Christmas Eve demonstrated that he could still lead a team driving for the playoffs.

I'm glad that Campbell will get a chance to start more than 2-3 games this season. His body of work, particularly in December once his feet are wet, should help determine whether we're set at QB or whether we'll be looking for a veteran free agent come March.

EEich 11-14-2006 02:29 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
I appreciate the effort MB has made... but honestly, he hasn't given us anything that we couldn't have gotten from Ramsey or Campbell for alot less $.

SouperMeister 11-14-2006 02:45 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
[quote=EEich;245897]I appreciate the effort MB has made... but honestly, he hasn't given us anything that we couldn't have gotten from Ramsey or Campbell for alot less $.[/quote]
One big difference between Ramsey and Campbell - Ramsey was a loser at every level HS, college, and Pro. Campbell has been a winner in both HS and college. As Lombardi once said, winning is a habit, and unfortunately, so is losing. For any Campbell bashers that point out his benefit of playing with Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, I'll point out that nobody ever held Reggie Bush and Len Dale White as the reason for Matt Leinart's success in college. I believe Campbell will eventually be a BIG winner in the pros.

mooby 11-14-2006 02:45 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
I used to be a believer in Brunell after last year, but the way this year went my belief went down the drain, until I couldn't wait to see Campbell either. But anyways, I just want to thank Mark for being one of the classiest people out there. He might not be much of a player anymore, but he had a hell of a career and I wish him all the best. This is the second time in three seasons he's been benched, and he has never complained, but took it in stride. He had a hell of a season last year too, leading us to the playoffs.

offiss 11-14-2006 02:46 PM

Re: The Official Thank You Mark Brunell Thread
 
I would like to thank Mark for being a man about things, he could have easily used a ski mask and a gun to rob 43 mil, and yet he didn't, he was up front about this larceny, and cap destruction, not to mention the amount of time spent waiting for you to actually compete, FOUGHT YOUR GUTS OUT? Maybe trying to cut in line at the bank to cash all those checks which I am sure you will continue to do, but that's where it ended. So long Mark don't let the door hit you in the A**.


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