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NFLNetwork 11-14-2006 06:31 PM

Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
To me, it seems like SOMEWHAT of a waste to play duckett and betts in this system, and not bring them back. From Duckett's perspective, its a waste to spend a 3rd round pick on a guy that not going to be around next year. As far as Betts, he's shown he could be a very good backup, so why not try to keep him. Will we keep one if both play well OR will Free Agency claim both??

dall-assblows 11-14-2006 06:36 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
i would love to have betts back.

TJ is suppose to be a big part of the offense this week, says gibbs

Warpath 11-14-2006 06:40 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
Struggling with cap room its hard to say who stays and who goes. I think the rest of the season is the tryout. Duckett was a mistake of an insurance policy that is now (since Portis is on IR) hopefully about to pay off. Hes a gibbs type of guy I think, much like Betts is. No dancing just hitting the hole hard. So as to which one stays and which one goes I have no idea, but my money is on Betts because hes been around the Offense longer. This opinion is likely to change sepending on the play pf TJ Duckett.

Longtimefan 11-14-2006 06:55 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
They should both be given equal duty for the remainder of the season and let their performance determine who stays, and who goes. However the final countdown will be financial, which one we're willing to pay.

RobH4413 11-14-2006 07:03 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
Whoever has the most yards on the season from this point on. There is no sense increasing Betts value, as his contract expires this season. Duckett's does as well.

I'm assuming whomever has the better year, we throw some money towards. The lesser RB will get a mediocre offer, and he'll either take it or leave it.

That Guy 11-14-2006 07:09 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
TJ is a better back, but betts will probably be cheaper to resign... either one would be great to have as a backup/spot starter (rock wouldn't be bad, but he's got to stop fumbling at the worst possible moments first).

BrunellMVP? 11-14-2006 07:17 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
TJ is better in the he can get the tough yards, he's a better compliment to portis. This is not a knock on Betts as he is good too, and will get an opp to show is skills in this league, but TJ is the better fit. I hope gibbs agrees.

ultimateskinsfan 11-14-2006 07:35 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
I say resign Betts and Franchise Duckett, so we can get some value back for him. What do you guys think?

steveo395 11-14-2006 07:59 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
[quote=ultimateskinsfan;246200]I say resign Betts and Franchise Duckett, so we can get some value back for him. What do you guys think?[/quote]
Duckett is way too crappy to franchise. We would have to pay him top 5 money because nobody is going to give a first round pick for him.

Citizens for 81 11-14-2006 09:02 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
[quote=ultimateskinsfan;246200]I say resign Betts and Franchise Duckett, so we can get some value back for him. What do you guys think?[/quote]

Franchise? Neither one of these guys will get the franchise or transitional tag.

If you franchise a player he must receive a salary that is at least equal to the top 5 salaries for his position, while a transitional tag requires a salary that at least equals the avg. of the top 10 for his position.

Does anyone think Duckett or Betts is a top 5 or top 10 for his position?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7112865]NFL.com - NFL News[/url]

Pocket$ $traight 11-14-2006 09:04 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
[quote=ultimateskinsfan;246200]I say resign Betts and Franchise Duckett, so we can get some value back for him. What do you guys think?[/quote]

Franchise a guy who Atlanta pushed out the door and has dressed for 3 games. Even our front office won't do that.

Big C 11-14-2006 09:10 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
i think duckett is a more valuable player in the way the offense is moving. with campbell in, betts wont catch the ball as much i think. duckett is a better change of pace because he can be used in short yardage. betts can also be used, but is nowhere near as effective. betts is also 2 years older than duckett and is injury prone, remember his early career with us all the injuries? id keep duckett, though i like betts

GREENSTHEMAN 11-14-2006 09:14 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
I say use Sellers as the lead blocker, Duckett as RB, and use Bettis as a change up.

Citizens for 81 11-14-2006 09:17 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
Betts is way more versatile than Duckett. You can find guys like Duckett anywhere.

That Guy 11-14-2006 09:17 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
how about we give them both 6 year 30mill contracts, with about 10mill in guarantees? i think that'd be a great idea!

That Guy 11-14-2006 09:22 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
[quote=Citizens for 81;246265]Betts is way more versatile than Duckett. You can find guys like Duckett anywhere.[/quote]

where is this anywhere you speak of? decent big backs are hard to find with so much emphasis on 40 times. betts is like chester taylor or a bit worse than foster. both of our reserve backs are in the "good backup, serviceable starter." betts is more versatile in that he catches well, but he does give you many extra yards when the play isn't there. both portis and duckett can make those yards out of nothing more consistently.

Citizens for 81 11-14-2006 09:24 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
[quote=That Guy;246267]how about we give them both 6 year 30mill contracts, with about 10mill in guarantees? i think that'd be a great idea![/quote]


Do you work for Danny and Vinny?

That Guy 11-14-2006 10:29 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
[quote=Citizens for 81;246271]Do you work for Danny and Vinny?[/quote]

that was sasrcasm. i'm assuming you got that, but just putting down this disclaimer to make sure.

Citizens for 81 11-14-2006 10:41 PM

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[quote=That Guy;246293]that was sasrcasm. i'm assuming you got that, but just putting down this disclaimer to make sure.[/quote]

Yeah I got it, I was just trying to go along with your sarcasm.

Gmanc711 11-14-2006 10:44 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
I'd like to resign Betts. I highly highly doubt Duckett will want to resign here after the way he's been used this season.

That Guy 11-15-2006 12:04 AM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
[quote=Citizens for 81;246295]Yeah I got it, I was just trying to go along with your sarcasm.[/quote]

*sigh* sorry to ruin it then. last month i had 3 of those seriously ripped though.

drew54 11-15-2006 12:07 AM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
Well now that CP will be on IR, I guess that means that we will have a competition for the #2 man. Or we will showcase our two pending free agents for the other 31 teams that will need a free agent RB this offseason.

Personally being an Iowa fan since birth, I am pulling for Betts. From a team aspect I think we should sign Duckett. I think he is more of the change of pace back that this offense needs.

Honestly I am really frustrated beyond belief. Does anyone know if Duckett will be a UFA, or RFA? I hate that we traded away two picks for a guy that isn't under contract after these next 7 games.

Will we ever stop this madness.

Big C 11-15-2006 12:10 AM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
both are UFA i am pretty sure

Crat92 11-15-2006 08:38 AM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
I hope we keep Duckett. Although Betts could start for a number of teams. TJ would be a great change of pace back behind Portis. With Sellers at 278 lbs., and TJ at 254 lbs., short yardage and goalline situations would be a done deal. Plus, TJ has shared carries before with Warrick Dunn. Why can't or wouldn't he do the same here? If he wants to win that is. Just a thought. Keep TJ.

NAVYSKINSFAN 11-15-2006 11:10 AM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
I think that TJ is the answer. Ladell is going to want to find somewhere where he can have a bigger role. I love betts and I would not be suprised if he was not offered a few starter/ feature back role in some of the teams that are struggling with the RB position.

Monkeydad 11-15-2006 11:32 AM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
[quote=Citizens for 81;246265]Betts is way more versatile than Duckett. You can find guys like Duckett anywhere.[/quote]

Sure...I heard Ron Dayne is bored these days.

freddyg12 11-15-2006 12:09 PM

Re: Will We Resign Duckett or Betts??
 
tough call, I think it comes down to who we can sign first - might lose both. I always like to keep players we drafted, but TJ makes more sense as a compliment to CP. I'm not sold on his overall effort though, not sure if he blocks well in the pass game. at Mich. St he caught the ball a lot but other than that screen for -3 (which he did a good job of holding on to) haven't seen him much as a reciever in the nfl


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