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wbecker999 11-20-2006 03:46 AM

Move Taylor To Linebacker
 
Urlacher used to be a safety. Taylor makes most of the tackles anyway .Might as well get him closer to the line of scrimmage. AA may work out better beside vincent than with taylor.

soccercycbk 11-20-2006 04:22 AM

Re: Move Taylor To Linebacker
 
damn you must be on some good sh*t right now

marius 11-20-2006 05:33 AM

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So, take one of the few talented Skins, Taylor, and play him out of position? Then, replace him with AA, the most over paid spectator in the history of the league?

While we're at it, why not have Mark Brunell return punts?

Skinsfanatic 11-20-2006 07:45 AM

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[quote=marius;248714]

While we're at it, why not have Mark Brunell return punts?[/quote]

Cause as soon as the coverage team got close to him, he would throw it away?

Gmanc711 11-20-2006 08:10 AM

Re: Move Taylor To Linebacker
 
I'd try Arch at linebacker honestly. I mean the guy is still an athlete, I think he could play better as a WLB.

FRPLG 11-20-2006 08:17 AM

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;248726]I'd try Arch at linebacker honestly. I mean the guy is still an athlete, I think he could play better as a WLB.[/QUOTE]

This would probably work better than moving ST. I think ST could make the move but I think at LB he becomes less of a talent relatie to his peers. AT FS he can be a beast once we stop giving him the responsibility of basically being the fall back every where. The guy is responsible for way too much. He is good but he can't cover the whole field at once.

Gmanc711 11-20-2006 08:19 AM

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;248728]This would probably work better than moving ST. I think ST could make the move but I think at LB he becomes less of a talent relatie to his peers. AT FS he can be a beast once we stop giving him the responsibility of basically being the fall back every where. The guy is responsible for way too much. He is good but he can't cover the whole field at once.[/QUOTE]

Well logic says this too...

Taylor is a good saftey...why the hell would we move one of our GOOD players on defense, that makes no sense and just creates another hole. Who is going to be our saftey, freaking REED DOUGHTRY!??

At least if we move Arch, were basically playing with house money because I dont ever want to see him play saftey for the skins again. So he's an athlete and it might work out, worst case scenerio were at square one with him on the bench.

I'm not saying Taylor couldnt make the switch, I think you could make him a friggin D End and get better production. Him and M. Washington bring it all the time and I freaking love it. I'm just saying, why open ANOTHER hole at a position!?

marius 11-20-2006 08:58 AM

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This is just a ridiculous idea. He would be a decent linebacker but he can be a stud safety. Trying AA is possibly a better idea. Not sure though, perhaps he could join the cheerleading squad?

70Chip 11-20-2006 09:41 AM

Re: Move Taylor To Linebacker
 
I think we should move Derrick Frost to Right Tackle.

VTSkins897 11-20-2006 09:43 AM

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i should play.

SouperMeister 11-20-2006 09:51 AM

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[quote=Gmanc711;248726]I'd try Arch at linebacker honestly. I mean the guy is still an athlete, I think he could play better as a WLB.[/quote]
Didn't Gibbs trade the team's 2007 2nd round choice to move up and get Rocky McIntosh as a WLB? Gregg Williams should get off his high horse and give the kid a chance. I'm starting to think that Warrick Holdman has compromising photos of Williams.

Daseal 11-20-2006 09:57 AM

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Gibbs and Williams think very similarly about veterans. The average fan can't see that Holdman is struggling while the average fan can plainly see that Brunell was struggling.

I think we'll see more of Rocky soon. He made a good ST play last game.

MTK 11-20-2006 10:14 AM

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I really wonder what's going on with Rocky. Is he really that lost in picking up the defense? GW is typically slow in putting in his rookies but we're now 6 games away from the end of the season and Rocky hasn't gotten a sniff of playing time on D. Something isn't adding up here.

freddyg12 11-20-2006 04:10 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;248804]I really wonder what's going on with Rocky. Is he really that lost in picking up the defense? GW is typically slow in putting in his rookies but we're now 6 games away from the end of the season and Rocky hasn't gotten a sniff of playing time on D. Something isn't adding up here.[/quote]

yeah, and he looked alright in preseaon. hope he's not a bust

hail_2_da_skins 11-20-2006 04:25 PM

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It's too late this season to make a drastic change but moving to a base 3-4 defense might be the Redskins best option with their current personel. The Redskins are not suited to a 4-3 defense, their defensive ends are not atheletic enough to generate pressure. Since their best skill is occupying blocks, they would be better in a 3-4. The down linemen would be DE Phillip Daniels, DE Renaldo Wynn, DT Cornelius Griffin, OLB Marcus Washington, OLB Andre Carter, MLB Lemar Marshall, MLB Rocky McIntosh, FS Sean Taylor, SS Troy Vincent, CB Shawn Springs and CB Carlos Rogers. Interchange Andre Carter and Adam Archuletta and move him around to support the run and blitz the quarterback.

61cad 11-20-2006 04:29 PM

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;248720]Cause as soon as the coverage team got close to him, he would throw it away?[/quote]

LMFAO!!!

Or he could yell "SPOT" and throw it to Betts or Portis!

The Zimmermans 11-20-2006 04:29 PM

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3-4 would be a great move, seems to be the defense of the future around the league right now. WE GOTTA SWITCH UP SOMETHING. Our defense was bad in the beginning of the season, but now we can't even stop the run, that spells bad bad news.

That Guy 11-20-2006 04:30 PM

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in a 3-4 you need a nose tackle, and that's really not griffin's thing. he's a pass rushing DT. and you can't move from a base 4-3 to a base 3-4 in season, since it requires a lot of adjustments and learning. i know GW has a few 3-4 packages or whatever, but 1 down vs full time are a bit different. not to mention only 1 LB is playing okay right now, so i'm not sure if throwing another one out there is going to cause a huge change.

61cad 11-20-2006 04:30 PM

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[quote=wbecker999;248708]Urlacher used to be a safety. Taylor makes most of the tackles anyway .Might as well get him closer to the line of scrimmage. AA may work out better beside vincent than with taylor.[/quote]


Why not put Andre Carter at weak side LB.

The Zimmermans 11-20-2006 04:32 PM

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Griffin looked pretty good on sunday, anyone else agree? He was especially good on the goalline, you don't think he could play nose tackle? He does get hurt too much for us to rely on him though.

That Guy 11-20-2006 04:51 PM

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he might be able to play nose tackle, but he's not really a space eater as much as a penetrator, so it wouldn't be playing to his strengths. true quality nose tackles are very hard to find (casey hampton, ngata in last year's draft, etc).

I guess i can't be sure until he tries it though.

JWsleep 11-20-2006 06:06 PM

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Leave Taylor at Safety. Come on. He's still young. Hes not an LB. He can be one of the greats at safety given his skills, if he can learn to read the Offenses.

(Is this is joke thread? Kinda has an extremeskins feel...:doh: )

70Chip 11-20-2006 06:24 PM

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I think they should play a 5-2-4.

Wynn Griffin Golston Salavea Daniels.

Washington Marshall

Wright Springs

Taylor Vincent

This will tighten up the run and increase pass rush. Holdman is invisible anyways.

In Nickel replace Marshall with Rogers.

In Dime replace Golston with Ade, rush four.

In Quarter use a three man rush of Carter, Griffin, and Daniels and bring in Arch as the third safety to play three deep:

Carter Griffin Daniels
Washington

Wright Jimoh Rogers Springs


Arch Taylor Vincent


This would be against 5 wide sets.

mheisig 11-20-2006 07:55 PM

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[QUOTE=wbecker999;248708]Urlacher used to be a safety. Taylor makes most of the tackles anyway .Might as well get him closer to the line of scrimmage. AA may work out better beside vincent than with taylor.[/QUOTE]

Why the hell would AA work better next to Vincent than Taylor??!

I tell ya, the season goes down the drain and people start coming up with some bizarre-ass ideas.

mheisig 11-20-2006 07:57 PM

Re: Move Taylor To Linebacker
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;248804]I really wonder what's going on with Rocky. Is he really that lost in picking up the defense? GW is typically slow in putting in his rookies but we're now 6 games away from the end of the season and Rocky hasn't gotten a sniff of playing time on D. Something isn't adding up here.[/QUOTE]

Same thing with Duckett. And Campbell. And meanwhile turds like AA are out there the whole time.

It's like this organization isn't willing to try new people, and at the same time every offseason is spent buying a new team.

wbecker999 11-21-2006 10:10 PM

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[QUOTE=mheisig;249245]Why the hell would AA work better next to Vincent than Taylor??!

I tell ya, the season goes down the drain and people start coming up with some bizarre-ass ideas.[/QUOTE]

Have you watched the redskins in the Dan Snyder era?????????

What happened when you put big time linebackers next to each other
(Trotter, Arrington, Armstead)?

Its called chemistry

Most redskin fans understand this.
Do you need me to explain anything else to you?

mheisig 11-22-2006 06:17 AM

Re: Move Taylor To Linebacker
 
[QUOTE=wbecker999;249713]Have you watched the redskins in the Dan Snyder era?????????

What happened when you put big time linebackers next to each other
(Trotter, Arrington, Armstead)?

Its called chemistry

Most redskin fans understand this.
Do you need me to explain anything else to you?[/QUOTE]

How the hell is putting AA with Vincent remotely like "Trotter, Arrington, Armstead)? You think AA and Vincent is some magic recipe for chemistry at safety?

I would appreciate it if you could tell me what you're smoking, and where I can get some for a good price, because it appears to be some good stuff.

dmek25 11-22-2006 06:33 AM

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can someone explain to me how putting players out of their normal position, that somehow, magically they are going to know how to play that position. and then play it well enough to improve our defense? come on, people. lets get real around here

The Zimmermans 11-22-2006 09:51 AM

Re: Move Taylor To Linebacker
 
Any suggestion is reasonable when you consider the current performance of our defense, we just showed that we couldnt stop the worst offense in the NFC, and we knew that they were gonna run the ball, we knew it!!!!

MTK 11-22-2006 10:16 AM

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[quote=mheisig;249248]Same thing with Duckett. And Campbell. And meanwhile turds like AA are out there the whole time.

It's like this organization isn't willing to try new people, and at the same time every offseason is spent buying a new team.[/quote]

Well, Campbell is finally in there, Duckett is actually getting on the field, and AA has been benched for a couple of games now.

Progress is slow around Redskins Park I guess.

jdlea 11-22-2006 10:24 AM

Re: Move Taylor To Linebacker
 
[QUOTE=Gmanc711;248726]I'd try Arch at linebacker honestly. I mean the guy is still an athlete, I think he could play better as a WLB.[/QUOTE]

I suggested this to TMC before. I had told him that signing a guy who is basically an OLB to play safety might not have been the best idea...lol. Anyway, I think if they're gonna tinker with the linebacking core at all, it should involve Rocky McIntosh seeing the f*cking field!

wbecker999 11-22-2006 11:36 PM

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[QUOTE=The Zimmermans;249781]Any suggestion is reasonable when you consider the current performance of our defense, we just showed that we couldnt stop the worst offense in the NFC, and we knew that they were gonna run the ball, we knew it!!!![/QUOTE]

WELL SAID


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