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The way that the team is playing and the schedule we have left means that the no.1 pick is not beyond the realms of possibility (who would have guessed that before the season started). At the very least we look a lock for a top 10, maybe top 5.

So, what is our greatest need? I say a stud DE or MLB.

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Honestly....I hate to say it....

and I dont think were the worst team in the league (that can go to Detroit or Arizona, after that I'm not sure who else is much worse, seriously)...

but we have a shot at the number one pick (Wipes away tears)...

However, I'm down for trading any pick inside the top 5 and getting some more players, unless an absolute stud comes up.

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We won't get a top 5 pick, but I would like to trade any 1st round pick we get for a second, third and fourth or something similar. One thing we have been missing the last few years is those solid upper round picks.

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[QUOTE=Jason72;248745]We won't get a top 5 pick[/QUOTE]

I think we might. If not, we'll be close.

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We should be able to trade a top 5 or 10 for another late 1st rounder and a 2nd or 3rd at least. Depends who's available. We will most likely trade away our whole draft for a free agent though.

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Pending Combine results, I would say the only can't miss player that we could use with a top 10 pick is Calvin Johnson, cuz he is a freak and Campbell could really use a big target as a "training wheel".

Our biggest needs are depth at O-line and D-line. We need to trade down for a mid to late 1st round and early 2nd round pick (possibly later picks as well). DE or DT with the 1st round pick and a DB or O-lineman with the later picks depending on who's out there

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Calvin Johnson IS a freak, but we are about as deep as any team at WR. It's all about DE, DT and maybe MLB.

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[quote=Jason72;248745][B]We won't get a top 5 pick[/B], but I would like to trade any 1st round pick we get for a second, third and fourth or something similar. One thing we have been missing the last few years is those solid upper round picks.[/quote]

Not sure why you say that, because right now only 3 teams have records worse than us (all are at 2-8, Lions, Cards, and Raiders).

At 3-7, we're tied with the Bucs, Texans, Titans, and Browns. If the season ended today, we'd end up with anywhere between the 4th and the 8th pick.

Here are our opponents the rest of the way:

Panthers 6-4
Falcons 5-5
Eagles 5-5
at Saints 6-4
at Rams 4-6
Giants 6-3

We'll probably win one out of dumb luck somewhere along the way. But by no means are we better than any of those teams.

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i see us finishing at either 5-11 or 6-10. that'll probably get us a top 10.

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calvin would be hard to pass up, but gaines (DE) and okoye (DT) would be more useful, and if you can trade down a bit to get them, guys like ben grubbs (OL), mason crosby (super stud K), etc might be gained in the process. until draft time, judging whether to trade down our not really doesn't make much sense though, becausse you're not sure of who can help you and where they'll go yet. trading down instead of taking shawn merriman would've been ultra-stupid, so sometimes it is better to stand pat.

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I agree that we need help at the D-line and thats our #1 priority but I don't think MLB is a pressing issue, cuz we have good LB's at the startin positions and a little depth. As far as DB's I am hearing from different places that we are gonna make a run at Nate Clements from Buffalo (who is a gregg williams kinda guy), so i don't think the DB's are an area we address in the draft either.

We do NOT need to make a big splash in to the FA market this year outside of that b/c what this team needs is CONTINUITY. We are inconsistent cuz we have no way to develop chemistry if we keep swapping out players for big name FAs every offseason. Not to mention FedEx field's ticket prices are skyrocketing every year.

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[quote=marius;248717]The way that the team is playing and the schedule we have left means that the no.1 pick is not beyond the realms of possibility (who would have guessed that before the season started). At the very least we look a lock for a top 10, maybe top 5.

So, what is our greatest need? I say a stud DE or MLB.[/quote]
Stud DE is the first priority. Carter is an absolute bust. Until the Skins can pressure the QB with the front 4, our DBs will be hung out to dry. A top-10 pick should be high enough to get either Gaines Adams (Clemson) or Quentin Moses (Georgia).

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[quote=VTSkins897;248779]i see us finishing at either 5-11 or 6-10. that'll probably get us a top 10.[/quote]

Just about every prediction posted on the Warpath so far this year has turned out to be optimistic. I'll bet on 5-11 as the absolute ceiling - with 4-12 even more likely.

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Hey That Guy, (or anyone else who knows), what picks do we have left this year?

Did we lose a pick for Lloyd? The 4th rounder maybe? And of course we traded God knows what for Duckett (essentially 3rd round value).

So does that mean we actually have our 1st and 2nd rounders this year?

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I get sad every time I talk about this season. I always expect the defense to improve. While I think that our quarterback position has been fixed, I think the defense has huge holes that weren't apparent last year. I expect to see McIntosh inserted ASAP, and if he plays well, then I'll talk about expectations. I think we might win against the Eagles and Giants at home, if, for any reason it's because they're missing top playmakers.

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[quote=Schneed10;248795]Hey That Guy, (or anyone else who knows), what picks do we have left this year?

Did we lose a pick for Lloyd? The 4th rounder maybe? And of course we traded God knows what for Duckett (essentially 3rd round value).

So does that mean we actually have our 1st and 2nd rounders this year?[/quote]
Gibbs has already traded the following 2007 draft choices:

2nd round - to move up and select McIntosh in 2006
3rd round - for Duckett
4th round - for Lloyd (we also threw in our 2006 3rd round pick for him)

We only have our first rounder on the 1st day of the draft. Gibbs had better make it count. He could've had Shawn Merriman or DeMarcus Ware when he selected Carlos "Cushion" Rogers in 2005. Hopefully he learned that soft coverage CBs have ZERO chance without pass rushing D-linemen. If Gibbs doesn't make a push to get either Gaines Adams or Quentin Moses, then I'm ready to remove Gibbs as President of this sinking operation.

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Given the number of things that have gone wrong, trading down seems like the right move. God knows we need more picks.

Also, what does our cap look like next year? How much space can we generate with reasonable cuts and restructures? Who nees to be re-signed? I am not against FA--just do your friggin home work this time (not y'all, but the FA!).

D-line, defientely, O-line as well. And I do think we need an MLB one way or the other. Williams seems to like big, slow safties at every position (arch, Lamar). Time to get a real MLB. Oh, and welcome Rajmahal!

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Also most likely the Giants won't be playing for anything, so they might be resting their starters. We could steal a game from Carolina or Atlanta cuz those teams are pretty inconsistent.

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I have a bad felling that we will try ot go after Nate Clements whom the Buffalo Bills will have the franchise tag on already. The Billls will work out a deal with the Skins for their high first rounder this coming offseason and some other high pick as well (maybe even next years first rounder if the Redskins get too desperate.)

My hope is that they trade down because they need multiple picks. Also my hope is only go after Nate Clements if he is unrestricted - if they place the franchise tag or transitonal tag on Clements do not go after him period. This regime needs to start stockpiling picks the next couple of years and bite the bullet. This will help build depth and also help the team deal with the salary cap.

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Agreed on all counts. We need to develop talent esp on defense, cuz when Gibbs retires and Williams takes over (like Snyder promised him), he will have to base this team around his defense for which he needs depth at every position. The blueprint that good defenses like the Raven, Pats, and Steelers have provided is that you need a nucleus of veterans that stay with the team along with the ability to plug in rookies and less experienced but talented younger players who can make an immediate impact. These younger players were drafted and developed by these teams and as a result they have been able to experience sustained success.

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POSLUSZNY that is all

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we have a pick in rounds 1, 5, 6, and 7. not much to work with. if we trade down to the 21ish range, we'll be forced to trade down even further with the broncos and get our 3rd round pick back...

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I think we should trade our #1 pick to possibly get a couple more picks in the second and third round. I also think that we should find a way to trade Carlos Rogers for a second round pick. He has been a bust so far. He plays way to far off of the receivers, and lacks the speed to cover the gap, and he can't catch a cold! I also think that Lemar MArshall isn't getting the job done at MLB, so what should we do there? However if we do go to the draft and pick a couple of quality rookies, we won't get to see them play for a whole year. Because of GW's system. Which I think is a load of Horse Shit. So it might be better to just trade all of our draft picks away for Free Agents, if we want to see any change next year. AUGH..............

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[quote=JWsleep;248805]
D-line, defientely, O-line as well. And I do think we need an MLB one way or the other. Williams seems to like big, slow safties at every position (arch, Lamar). Time to get a real MLB. Oh, and welcome Rajmahal![/quote]


Thanks, glad to be here. From what i have seen so far, there's been no trolling and thats always a good thing.

Do we really lose our 1st round pick to denver even if we TRADE DOWN to the 20-30th pick range? I thought those picks would only be swapped if our original draft position was in that 20-30 range but since we will probably originally have a pick within the first 10 we can deal it without any consequence.

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What's the story with our pick and Denver? I never heard the final details on that. We have to trade picks with them in certain situations. Anyone know the actual deal?

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[quote=FRPLG;248927]What's the story with our pick and Denver? I never heard the final details on that. We have to trade picks with them in certain situations. Anyone know the actual deal?[/quote]

they get our 3rd round pick, however, if our picks in the 1st round are within the value of a 3rd round pick, they can be exchanged. therfore, i believe trading down late into the 1st round would allow them to use that option, even if it wasn't our natural draft position.

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I feel like clements might cost us too much, possibility of drafting a CB in the middle rounds?

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[quote=The Zimmermans;249039]I feel like clements might cost us too much, possibility of drafting a CB in the middle rounds?[/quote]

you won't find a starter, and would have a hard time finding a guaranteed first year #3 by the 5th round. we have no mid round picks right now. decent CBs are usually available in some form through the 3rd round though. this draft class is sorta weak at CB though, especially if you want pure speed. We might be able to get someone that late and let them sit around as a project player to groom for later though.