Marvin Harrison's a Baby
 

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Apparently he was upset that he didn't reach 1,000 career catches and he was virtually non-existent the whole game.. Now i'd understand for him, as good of a player he is, to be upset if it was a close game or they had lost...but wtf they routed the eagles. Talk about being selfish, and then he just stood there after he fumbled the ball. I don't about you guys but i always thought he was the team first/unselfish type of player, I guess i was wrong. He deserves a:spank:.

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i met him over the summer. he was an asshole, i dont like him at all

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Harrison's lucky that NBC didn't catch that on camera or it would be all over the place, like when Randy Moss left the Vikings Redskins game early.

Harrison's a strange cat though. Never goes into the huddle, never watches game film. Most cases that would be considered somewhat insurbodinate. But you can't deny his talent. Or can you? Would be interesting to see what he'd be like without Peyton.

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He's one of those guys who slides and runs out of bounds when there are still yds left on the field. I'm not a fan of his at all.

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[quote=TAFKAS;251995]Harrison's lucky that NBC didn't catch that on camera or it would be all over the place, like when Randy Moss left the Vikings Redskins game early.

Harrison's a strange cat though. Never goes into the huddle, never watches game film. Most cases that would be considered somewhat insurbodinate. But you can't deny his talent. Or can you? Would be interesting to see what he'd be like without Peyton.[/quote]

Really?? I didn't know all that. I guess thats what happens when your a shoe in to the HOF and your playing on a team like that.

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[quote=TAFKAS;251995]Harrison's lucky that NBC didn't catch that on camera or it would be all over the place, like when Randy Moss left the Vikings Redskins game early.

Harrison's a strange cat though. Never goes into the huddle, never watches game film. Most cases that would be considered somewhat insurbodinate. But you can't deny his talent. Or can you? [B]Would be interesting to see what he'd be like without Peyton[/B].[/quote]


Good point. I personally think that without Manning, Harrison is just a run-of-the-mill type guy.....

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harrison is a very good receiver that does run out of bounds and hits the carpet when the safety comes flying. im surprised that this wasnt made into a bigger issue

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you guys, I don't know much about him, but with out a doubt he is a top 3 WR in this league...

Just do a little research on what his peers say about him, and I'm not talking about WR's, I mean DB's, the guys that cover him. I have heard and read quotes giving him major props... sorrry no links!

I can see him being MAJOR A-hole on and off the field though...

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best route-runner in the league perhaps, but still a douche-bag

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[QUOTE=gortiz;252131]you guys, I don't know much about him, but with out a doubt he is a top 3 WR in this league...

Just do a little research on what his peers say about him, and I'm not talking about WR's, I mean DB's, the guys that cover him. I have heard and read quotes giving him major props... sorrry no links!

I can see him being MAJOR A-hole on and off the field though...[/QUOTE]
I remember that game, The announcer asked 10 DBs who the best WR was and 9 of the ten said Harrison.
His numbers are amazing. He would be a good player for any team.

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he'd be good no matter what. peyton helps though. and again, being good and being an a-hole aren't mutually exclusive by any means.

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There's a vastly more important issue relating to this. His performance on Sunday KILLED me in fantasy football! Do I bench him this week or will that thumb-headed bastard finally throw him the damn ball!!??

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[quote=Counter-Tre;252410]There's a vastly more important issue relating to this. His performance on Sunday KILLED me in fantasy football! Do I bench him this week or will that thumb-headed bastard finally throw him the damn ball!!??[/quote]

not if addai goes off like that again :/.

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I have read so many stupid comments about Harrison in this thread it is comical. For once can somebody consider the body of work? This is the first time that I can remember him being involved in anything negative...ANYTHING

When he scores, he hands the ball to the official. He doesn't embarrass his team, he doesn't embarrass himself. He doesn't grill his team in the media and he doesn't complain about his contract. All he does is go out and do his job and toast the top cornerbacks on a regular basis. Jerry Rice said that he was the best receiver in football. Does his opinion count for anything?

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Not really that big of a hissy fit

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Marvin Harrison is by far one of the best, or maybe the best WR in the league. Peyton does not make him. His route running and his hands make him great. But.......... that was pretty F'ed up what he did. We've dogged every other WR that did something similar(i.e. Randy Moss, T.O., etc.). Fair is fair!

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The difference is you get Randy Moss and TO doing it every week. I don't know what his deal was on Sunday. Maybe he's actually a selfish guy and just doesn't talk much...I don't know. Regardless, he's a great receiver.

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Well Dungy responded to the incident by first saying that he didn't notice Harrison had left early then he later said he gave Harrison permission to leave the field early to get some stretching in at halftime.

Either way, it doesn't mean he's not a great receiver. And at the same time, the fact that he's quiet and unassuming doesn't necessarily mean he's a great guy. Maybe he is, I don't know.

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I hope Joseph Addai keeps it up! He was my sleeper pick on almost all my teamx!

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[quote=jamf;252142]I remember that game, The announcer asked 10 DBs who the best WR was and 9 of the ten said Harrison.
His numbers are amazing. He would be a good player for any team.[/quote]

Harrison's numbers BEFORE Peyton Manning:

'96 (rookie year) = Indy's leading receiver with 836 yds, 8 TDs. QBs were Jim Harbaugh (405 passes thrown) and Paul Justin (127 passes thrown).

'97 = Indy's leading receiver with 866 yds, 6 TDs. QBs were Jim Harbaugh (309 passes thrown), Paul Justin (140 passes thrown) and Kelly Holcomb (73 passes thrown).


His numbers actually went DOWN when Manning first arrived, only 700+ yards in '98.

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regarless of what you guys think about him my opinion he is the best there is right now. some of you say this and that about him like you have been there beside him or something. doesnt go in huddle...etc..come on do you really see that happen or you just go with what others say...its always something here....lol before you know you will be saying things about campbell next.

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If it's true...I've never seen him avoid the huddle. That would be stupid unless he's supposed to run the same route EVERY play...which would be stupid.

I'll have to watch for it, but I'm finding that a little hard to believe.

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Well Harrison has admitted to not really watching game film or studying his next opponent. He says he doesn't see the point. And he's also said that he often times doesn't go in the huddle.

I suppose it's online somewhere but I saw it on some piece about how great a connection Manning and Harrison have, so much so that he knows what the play will be without having to go into the huddle often times.

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I thought Indy ran a no-huddle offense?

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Yeah, Madden confirmed that Harrison usually avoids the huddle (he might stand close, but he's not IN it), sits alone at the end of the bench, and generally has few emotions. Madden doesn't seem to think it's a sign of anything at all -- totally normal for Marvin.

I know a lot of people don't like Madden, but the guy knows football and he talks with a lot of the players regularly -- he has credibility.

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Also, from my understanding, they don't call a single play in the Indy huddle (they call 3). So, basically nobody knows what play is coming until they lineup (I think this is what onlydarksets was alluding to).

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[quote=onlydarksets;253292]I thought Indy ran a no-huddle offense?[/quote]

HA! Good point. Everyone avoids the huddle....even Awesome Dallas Clark.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;253295]Also, from my understanding, they don't call a single play in the Indy huddle (they call 3). So, basically nobody knows what play is coming until they lineup (I think this is what onlydarksets was alluding to).[/quote]

That wasn't my understanding. I thought they rarely used the huddle, and instead Manning determines which of the plays to call while they are at the line.

However, I am not certain of this.

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I'm can't remember if they us the no huddle but I do know that they line up with three plays. That could mean Manning has had three plays called in to him. When they line up manning decides which play to run according to what the D is showing him. He calls the play at the line and they run the play. As for Harrison this is the only thing I have ever heard about him except what he does good on the field. To compare him to Moss or TO is just not even fair and for other to call him names they don't even know him.

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Well, regardless, he's from the U (Syracuse), so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, even if he did cost me my last fantasy game.

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OK, according to this article, the Colts haven't huddled in four years:
[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/colts/2006-09-13-sw-peyton-manning_x.htm]USATODAY.com - Gone in 40 seconds: Peyton Manning's presnap routine[/url]

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;253330]OK, according to this article, the Colts haven't huddled in four years:
[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/colts/2006-09-13-sw-peyton-manning_x.htm]USATODAY.com - Gone in 40 seconds: Peyton Manning's presnap routine[/url][/QUOTE]

Wow, that's a great article. Apparently, the full playbook is at Manning's disposal for every play! It kinda makes you wonder what the offensive coordinator is doing. ;)

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;253385]Wow, that's a great article. Apparently, the full playbook is at Manning's disposal for every play! It kinda makes you wonder what the offensive coordinator is doing. ;)[/quote]

standing on the sideline figuring out new ways to tell peyton what a good job he's doing... it's not as easy as it sounds.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;253385]Wow, that's a great article. Apparently, the full playbook is at Manning's disposal for every play! It kinda makes you wonder what the offensive coordinator is doing. ;)[/quote]

Tom Moore is arguably the best O coordinator in the league.

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sarcasm