Sports Talk 980 and the Redskins
 

Anyone ever notice the negative vibe on Sports Talk 980 towards the Redskins? All of their shows always rip the Redskins even after a win. B. Mitch, Czab and Doc Walker are real hard on the Redskins. Doc Walker kills Gibbs on a lot of stuff. A lot of it is well deserved and good comentary. Today they reported Clark only wanted a 1.5 million signing bonus. Skins only offered him $750k. And to think they gave AA 10 mil. I'm wondering if the negative commentary has to do with Snyder's new radio station?

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The truth hurts. This organization has made a lot of player personnel mistakes. It takes guts for local media to call out the local team.

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I listen to Sports Talk 980 every day; anyone else who listens please let me know what you think about this evaluation. First,I feel like because Walker and B-Mitch both played for the Redskins when they were good, they get upset when they play like they've been playing, and let the city of DC down. They know how Gibbs used to be and they always talk about how he's changed; I think they get really frustrated when Gibbs doesn't coach like he used to.
Second, I think that Walker and B-Mitch take pride in the fact that they'll say exactly what they're feeling no matter what anyone thinks, and B-Mitch likes to advertise this about himself on his radio show constantly. So, he's sorta portrayed himself as this guy who likes to stir things up, and now he almost over does it. It's like he thinks people are expecting him to saying something outrageous, so now he has to.
Third, Czab is just a a synical asshole, but I think he's great. I think it's just his personality to be a pessimist, so when the skins are doin bad, of course he's going to bash them more.
Fourth, the only guy who always stays positive about the Skins no matter what is the man himself, Coach Thompson. Any Skins fan can appreciate his show, and if you've never listened before you should, it's on at 3PM everyday. He's hilarious, if a Dallas fan calls in, he immediately cuts them off.

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Did they still rip the Skins after the Carolina game?

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You know what, someone still did, but I cannot remember who it was. Actually they didn't really rip them, they just said that they were lucky because A) The hit that Peppers had on Campbell should not have been a penalty and would have resulted in an interception. B) Jake Delhomme played bad. C) We fumbled the ball four times and were lucky that it was not turned over once. I thought it was ridiculous because they call horrible unnecessary roughness or roughing the passer penalties on Taylor all the time, so I thought it was fine that we finally got one back. And, Delhomme played bad because our D-line was up in his grill all day. As for the fumbles, hey, Carolina should do a few more loose ball drills in practice.

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It was a bad call on Peppers but the refs are going to call that every time now. Any sort of a perceived hard shot is going to get called.

Yeah the fumbles were a concern and we did get luck there.

Delhomme did play bad, but he did face some pretty good pressure which forced him into some bad decisions.

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I'm sure there is some STRONG animosity remaining from the whole Triple X ESPN Radio spawn.

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[quote=cpayne5;252636]I'm sure there is some STRONG animosity remaining from the whole Triple X ESPN Radio spawn.[/quote]

Yeah that definitely has to play a part in things.

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[quote=gabe1984;252620]I listen to Sports Talk 980 every day; anyone else who listens please let me know what you think about this evaluation. First,I feel like because Walker and B-Mitch both played for the Redskins when they were good, they get upset when they play like they've been playing, and let the city of DC down. They know how Gibbs used to be and they always talk about how he's changed; I think they get really frustrated when Gibbs doesn't coach like he used to.
Second, I think that Walker and B-Mitch take pride in the fact that they'll say exactly what they're feeling no matter what anyone thinks, and B-Mitch likes to advertise this about himself on his radio show constantly. So, he's sorta portrayed himself as this guy who likes to stir things up, and now he almost over does it. It's like he thinks people are expecting him to saying something outrageous, so now he has to.
Third, Czab is just a a synical asshole, but I think he's great. I think it's just his personality to be a pessimist, so when the skins are doin bad, of course he's going to bash them more.
Fourth, the only guy who always stays positive about the Skins no matter what is the man himself, Coach Thompson. Any Skins fan can appreciate his show, and if you've never listened before you should, it's on at 3PM everyday. He's hilarious, if a Dallas fan calls in, he immediately cuts them off.[/quote]

I think B-Mitch is very bitter. I can hear it in his tone whenver he talks about the Skins.

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i like how brian mitchell talks about the skins, he is the guy who tells the truth, and sometimes the truth hurts

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[quote=Big C;252643]i like how brian mitchell talks about the skins, he is the guy who tells the truth, and sometimes the truth hurts[/quote]

He tells the truth about the bad things, but rarely talks about the good - if ever.

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[quote=hesscl34;252644]He tells the truth about the bad things, but rarely talks about the good - if ever.[/quote]
That is his job, as a sportscaster. If you want him to be a pushover then he should work as a broadcaster for the Redskins organization. Most of that pansy reporting people are crying for can be found at the Skins official website.

It is very refreshing to hear a critical viewpoint. Obviously we know he isn't 100 percent correct, but it is best to hear pessimistic and optimistic viewpoints and make your own mind from there. Having anything less is nothing less than censorship.

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I can respect a critical view as long as that person also dishes out praise when appropriate. If it's all just critical it gets boring and predictable, same for if it's just all praise.

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[quote=Mattyk72;252648]I can respect a critical view as long as that person also dishes out praise when appropriate. If it's all just critical it gets boring and predictable, same for if it's just all praise.[/quote]

Couldn't have said it any better!!!

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[quote=Mattyk72;252648]I can respect a critical view as long as that person also dishes out praise when appropriate. If it's all just critical it gets boring and predictable, same for if it's just all praise.[/quote]
This is true, but at the same time most reporters have a very hard time doing that. It is much more common to find articles with polarizing views. What I tend to do is not just stick with one source, but attain multiple ones. That way I try to get the full spectrum of views and from that point I make my own decision.

Only reason I like B.Mitch is because he has some credibility as a former player, and most people are not as critical as him. I get sick of hearing Gibbs talk about how they "fought their guts out" when they got manhandled. At the same time, after the win all I heard from most media sources is how great the Skins were. It was nice to see some people take a more critical approach before we crowned the Skins. such as pointing out those turnovers, penalties, etc.

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[QUOTE=cpayne5;252636]I'm sure there is some STRONG animosity remaining from the whole Triple X ESPN Radio spawn.[/QUOTE]

Well it's not like 980 even had the Redskins games to begin with. What really set things into a tailspin was when Czabe ran with Gibbs' joke a couple of years ago that he was going back to NASCAR soon, and if he didn't start winning it would be really soon. Totally kidding, but instead Czaban used it as an opportunity to call Gibbs a quitter whose heart wasn't in the Skins, etc. etc.

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There is a major difference between accurate "no holds barred" reporting, and sensationalism of the Jerry Springer variety. If we get no love after the Carolina win, it's not hard to figure out which side of the fence they are on.

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It would help me to like him if he knew the difference between the words "indulge" and "divulge". When he was talking about the ESPN article after the game he said "You know (insert espn sport writer name here) won't indulge the player he interviewed". Come on. If you are going to be a sportscaster, at least use the appropriate words.

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[quote=hesscl34;252666]It would help me to like him if he knew the difference between the words "indulge" and "divulge". When he was talking about the ESPN article after the game he said "You know (insert espn sport writer name here) won't indulge the player he interviewed". Come on. If you are going to be a sportscaster, at least use the appropriate words.[/quote]

I caught that too, Hess. I felt embarrassed for him, as weird as that sounds.

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[quote=12thMan;252668]I caught that too, Hess. I felt embarrassed for him, as weird as that sounds.[/quote]

Me too (felt embarrassed for him). I wonder if after the show anyone mentioned it to him....

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I don't pickup 980 in Richmond, but do hear Czaban on 950 and BM on Comcast.

Alot of the critizism is well deserved IMO. When they win the right way they do praise them (like last year). But let's face it this organization has made alot of mistakes and does things differently than the 30 other teams around the nfl. So, when things go wrong they are going to take heat.

Don't get me wrong, we played well Sunday, but we could have easily lost that game. We recovered 4 fumbles in the 1st half & got redeemed by a BAD call on Peppers. Hey we get bad calls all the time so we'll take it. I'm all for calling it like it is and not sugar coating anything and i think that's what these guys do. Remember that they are all skins fans who want to see something good.

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Mitchell has talked on the air how he was pissed when the Skins let him go. I guess he felt he shoulda been one of those guys like Darrell Green who stayed with them for his entire career. He needs to get over it. I think it does sorta make him rip on them more because he sorta chews on that resentment he felt when the skins delt him to philly.

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[QUOTE=redsk1;252681]I don't pickup 980 in Richmond, but do hear Czaban on 950 and BM on Comcast.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.sportstalk980.com]sportstalk980.com[/url]

they have a live stream...

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[quote=TAFKAS;252662]Well it's not like 980 even had the Redskins games to begin with. What really set things into a tailspin was when Czabe ran with Gibbs' joke a couple of years ago that he was going back to NASCAR soon, and if he didn't start winning it would be really soon. Totally kidding, but instead Czaban used it as an opportunity to call Gibbs a quitter whose heart wasn't in the Skins, etc. etc.[/quote]

I remember that mess. Gibbs made a totally innocent comment in jest, and dopes in the media ran with it. Totally ridiculous.

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I listen to both online occasionally. I'll take 980's occasional critisism over Larry Michael's constant ass-kissing any day. XXX is to the Skins what Fox News is to the White House.

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they talk bad b/c the hate to see the skins losing and playing badly

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Maybe the Sports Talk 980 group feel the same way about the Redskins that Dr. M L King Jr. felt about America. Dr. King once said [QUOTE] I critisize America because I love her, and want to see her stand as the moral example for the world [UNQUOTE] Maybe they're critical because they want to see the Redskins provide that staple for the NFL.

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[quote=Longtimefan;252949]Maybe the Sports Talk 980 group feel the same way about the Redskins that Dr. M L King Jr. felt about America. Dr. King once said [quote] I critisize America because I love her, and want to see her stand as the moral example for the world [UNQUOTE] Maybe they're critical because they want to see the Redskins provide that staple for the NFL.[/quote]
Well said *tears rolling down cheeks*

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[quote=hesscl34;252650]Couldn't have said it any better!!![/quote]



HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA


you just made my night! lol....



thanks for that

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[quote=skinsfan69;252613]Anyone ever notice the negative vibe on Sports Talk 980 towards the Redskins? All of their shows always rip the Redskins even after a win. B. Mitch, Czab and Doc Walker are real hard on the Redskins. Doc Walker kills Gibbs on a lot of stuff. A lot of it is well deserved and good comentary. Today they reported Clark only wanted a 1.5 million signing bonus. Skins only offered him $750k. And to think they gave AA 10 mil. I'm wondering if the negative commentary has to do with Snyder's new radio station?[/quote]

It must be nice to have blind faith sometimes...

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980 talk trash becasue they know it is the only way anyone will listen to them as they don't have the access triple X hs to the players and coaches ... kind of like a washington post attitude .

If the Redskins were 11-0 right now they would still be reporting Clark only wanted 1.5 million bonus and all the bad things on the team or they would say nothing.... Brian Mitchell is more of a Sally Jenkins of the broadcasting world

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They are always negative not because they are great truth seekers, but because that's what the general public thrives on. Great evaluators (as has been pointed out already) give you both sides with no bias.

I think Walker over the years has been very honest (until recently when he bought into the station vs. team garbage) if not overly macho at times. Mitchell is 95% negative and a know-it-all. He seems bitter, but gives some good insights, if you can get through all the stupid ones first. Czaban is an opportunist, he seems to try whatever he thinks will advance his career. He is pretty good 80% of the time. I heard him Wednesday morning getting personal in his negativity though. He will stretch the truth when it suits him.

I like team coverage that will get negative when it is warranted, but don't give one sentence of positive and then 2 hours of negative. And don't pretend like you have all the answers and the team are morons. Report the facts, comment on the facts, don't exaggerate, and don't get personal.

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they're negative because the skins are a losing team with some serious issues. if they were 11-0, they'd spend all day talking about how badly they'd beat the next team.

if the skins were lucky to not lose any of 4 fumbles, got a junk call, and a subpar game by delhomme, then how is stating that being negative (as oppoed to being objective)?

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[quote=That Guy;253447]they're negative because the skins are a losing team with some serious issues. if they were 11-0, they'd spend all day talking about how badly they'd beat the next team.

if the skins were lucky to not lose any of 4 fumbles, got a junk call, and a subpar game by delhomme, then how is stating that being negative (as oppoed to being objective)?[/quote]

If they were 9-2 they would still be criticized regularly. Here's an example: [url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6225232]FOX Sports - NFL - Criticism bewilders Urlacher, Bears[/url]. That's what the media (not just sports) does, because that's what people are drawn to.

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[quote=Jason72;253457]If they were 9-2 they would still be criticized regularly. Here's an example: [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6225232"]FOX Sports - NFL - Criticism bewilders Urlacher, Bears[/URL]. That's what the media (not just sports) does, because that's what people are drawn to.[/quote]

their QB play has been inconsistant enough to warrant that though... as for urlacher being over rated and such, i'm not really sure where that's coming from.

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At 4-7 and yet another wave of idiotic moves by the front office, exactly what positive stories should be covered by 980?

A lot of you fall under the category that Wilbon discusses frequently. You do not understand how other franchises operate (more importantly successful franchises).

This team is the highest paid and is oozing with talent, yet they consistently make poor decision after poor decision and lose to poor teams.

Put down the Kool-aid for once.

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;252644]He tells the truth about the bad things, but rarely talks about the good - if ever.[/QUOTE]

What good?! Face it guys, our beloved franchise is a joke... even if we were to miraculously make the playoffs this year, the rest of the league will still see our team as a joke. We have been overly optimistic about the team since the early '90's. It's about time to demand a change. And that starts with the media! Kudos to 980 and all the gang. It's time for a change...

The whole Ryan Clark thing is an embarrassment. Sadly enough, this has been happening for quite a few years now! Why do you think this will all of the sudden change next year??? Things are only going to get worst! Contrary to popular belief, THERE IS A SALARY CAP!

Pointing out the good things with this team is like telling a 5 year old kid he is great just for finishing the race, don't mind he finished 10th of 10! Great job kid!

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[QUOTE=Hog1;252663]There is a major difference between accurate "no holds barred" reporting, and sensationalism of the Jerry Springer variety. If we get no love after the Carolina win, it's not hard to figure out which side of the fence they are on.[/QUOTE]

Not sure what "love affair" we deserve after the carolina win. congratulations, we beat a mediocre team for our FOURTH win of the season.

and in not very impressive fashion, for that matter!

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We're simply talking about those that are [I]overly[/I] negative.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;253471]At 4-7 and yet another wave of idiotic moves by the front office, exactly what positive stories should be covered by 980?

A lot of you fall under the category that Wilbon discusses frequently. You do not understand how other franchises operate (more importantly successful franchises).

This team is the highest paid and is oozing with talent, yet they consistently make poor decision after poor decision and lose to poor teams.

Put down the Kool-aid for once.[/quote]

Oozing with talent? I have to strongly disagree with you. I would say the RB's (when Portis is healthy) are talented. JC is very talented but he's only making his 3rd start. Cooley is very good. Everything else, Wr's, o-line, d-line, backers, 2ndary, kicker, all avergae to below average. That's why we are 4-7.