Brunell Back in 2007?
 

Yes, another Brunell thread - so there!

I was wildly speculating on where Mark Brunell might end up in 2007 as either a viable number two or maybe, maybe challenge for a starting role somewhere.

1. San Francisco 49ers ( since the team is coming around, a vet with Brunell's resume might not be a bad idea while Smith continues to find his way)

2. Cleveland Browns (need I say more?)

3. New York Jets ( just kidding!)

4. Miami Dolphins (will they need both Harrington and Culpepper next year? One of the two may be gone)

The other teams that are serious long shots would be Oakland, Carolina, and finally the Eagles.

I know Brunell is one of Gibbs favorites, but I don't think he's a lock to return next year as the team may need to trim some fat.

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i dont think anyone will take him as starter, and i dont know why he would leave just to be another backup unless he is cut here, which i also dont see happening

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I think he's retiring. Theres no way anyone in the league would sign him....even to be 3rd stringer.

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I hope he remains our number 2. He's a vet and we could use him if JC gets hurt. He knows our team and our plays and Gibbs loves him. Can't beat that in a number 2.

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I could easily see him in Atlanta. He'd be close to home (Jacksonville), and he could help Musgrave work with Vick.

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I could definitely see him playing elsewhere with no problem. Look around the league right now - heck the NFC. It's hard to find a hand full of QBs having solid seasons.

My point is, Brunell is more than serviceable and, honestly, I think he could could challenge for a starting role somewhere.

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[quote=TAFKAS;252717]I could easily see him in Atlanta. He'd be close to home (Jacksonville), and he could help Musgrave work with Vick.[/quote]

They have some work ahead of them. Vick is an incredible talent. Unfortunately, nobody can seem to tap into it consistently

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[quote=Hog1;252721]They have some work ahead of them. Vick is an incredible talent. Unfortunately, nobody can seem to tap into it consistently[/quote]

Not to turn this into a Vick thread, but they and others have tried to turn him into a convential quarterback, he'll never be that. Arthur Blank has said, in no uncertain terms, look get this thing together now or heads will start to roll.

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But I love MB and don't want him to leave.... LOL :)

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[quote=hesscl34;252725]But I love MB and don't want him to leave.... LOL :)[/quote]

We know Hess, in fact, are there any men alive that you don't drool over?

MB is just too expensive to pay for a back-up, but the Skins have done crazier things.

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[quote=12thMan;252726]We know Hess, in fact, are there any men alive that you don't drool over?

WHAT??? Where did that come from?

... I'm quite content with one man, thanks.

... and MB of course... :cheeky-sm

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He said he wants to be a starter again although I doubt more than one or two teams would even give him a shot to compete for the starting job. The man is a backup and quite honestly I hope he isn't here next year. He still thinks he should be a starter even though he has completely lost his mobility which was arguably his greatest weapon so now even though he is one dimensional and old and doesn't have a big arm he still believes he should be a starter and that means he is straight up delusional so I would like to see him leave.

If he is happy being a backup and taking a pay cut then he is more than welcome to stay.

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I would like for Mark to stay. His leadership abilities are still an asset to this team and I think he's a good influence and mentor for Jason. I am glad to see the passion he's displayed during games since he lost his position and the support he's given to Jason. I think he still has a heart for this team, but if he were to leave, I believe he would choose retirement.

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I have always liked the midget and hopes he stays with us to mentor JC to his full potential

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[quote=Lady Brave;252740]I would like for Mark to stay. His leadership abilities are still an asset to this team and I think he's good influence and mentor for Jason. I am glad to see the passion he's displayed during games since he lost his position and the support he's given to Jason. I think he still has a heart for this team, but if he were to leave, I believe he would choose retirement.[/quote]


You're correct his heart and leadership are great, but can we afford to pay him that hefty contract and sit on the sidelines for another year. That's what the Skins have to put on the table in the offseason.

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[quote=12thMan;252745]You're correct his heart and leadership are great, but can we afford to pay him that hefty contract and sit on the sidelines for another year. That's what the Skins have to put on the table in the offseason.[/quote]

Well it's like Mark said, "Football is a great game, but it's a horrible business."

I guess it will come down to choosing the lesser of two evils. I truly believe it will be more beneficial to keep him another year for Jason's sake. I would rather see Brunell as our backup than bringing in someone else to learn the system and Collins is simply a non factor in my opinion.

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Collins - non-factor. Totally agree.

I do think MB would be great to have for another year. He knows JC well, the team, the plays... oh, I already said that! haha...

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As always, the salary cap will play the biggest role in deciding what we do with Brunell.

If we cut him from the roster, we'd save $2.3 million in 2007 salary cap space. Or we could renegotiate his contract. He is owed $5.2 million in base salary in 2007. We could still pay him that $5.2 million, just converted to signing bonus. This would free up about $3.5 - $4.0 million in 2007 salary cap space.

Knowing Gibbs and how much he loves vets, and specifically MB, I'm betting we keep him as a #2 and renegotiate his contract. No pay cuts, just renegotiation.

Two big factors at play:

1) Gibbs loves Brunell (and vet QBs in general).
2) The 'Skins love to renegotiate contracts so they can create tons of cap space.

My money says he stays as our #2. Unless he demands out, then Gibbs will accomodate him.

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I don't see him going anywhere, he'll either retire or return as a backup here. If I had to bet on it I'd say he retires.

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He'd make a solid backup. I hope he stays for that. When he's healthy and fresh, he's great....and he's be both as a backup. Having a veteran as a backup is a big plus, especially one who has played extensively in the system, except for Todd Collins. You need talent along with the knowledge.

We could always get Tim Hasselbeck back if he doesn't take over for Eli. :D

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I am betting that he stays as a back up. If for no other reason than that Gibbs really likes him. With him as the back- up, Gibbs will feel that he has two starting QB's on the roster. Another QB will be aquired to be next year's number 2 and be given a year to acclimate.

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Brunell's been a good QB over the past couple of years. now he's just gotten too old to do much. JC's doing an awesome job, and im very excited to see what he'll do for us next season. I just don't see brunell starting next year as a possibility. I would however love for him to stay to give JC some advice that he needs. the problem of his contract is what worries me. if Gibbs makes the decision to extend his contract to keep him as a backup, i hope Snyder stays out of it and allows brunell to stay on. of course i think even snyder knows not to push Gibbs around.

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I do agree he would be a valuable backup, but a part of me would be nervous that Gibbs would go back to him.

It's a bit of a relief though that Campbell looks promising, I think as long as he keeps it up he will remain the unquestioned starter next year. Gibbs' comments about JC lately seem to indicate that he's gaining confidence in him and he's impressed with how well he's handling things.

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[quote=Lady Brave;252740]I would like for Mark to stay. His leadership abilities are still an asset to this team and I think he's a good influence and mentor for Jason. I am glad to see the passion he's displayed during games since he lost his position and the support he's given to Jason. I think he still has a heart for this team, but if he were to leave, I believe he would choose retirement.[/quote]

You're absolutely correct! He's remained positive even when the cards were not in his favor. His sportsmanship is to be admired. I could see him following the path of Ray Brown (in some media spotlight).

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[quote=wilsowilso;252738]He said he wants to be a starter again although I doubt more than one or two teams would even give him a shot to compete for the starting job. The man is a backup and quite honestly I hope he isn't here next year. He still thinks he should be a starter even though he has completely lost his mobility which was arguably his greatest weapon so now even though he is one dimensional and old and doesn't have a big arm he still believes he should be a starter and that means he is straight up delusional so I would like to see him leave.

If he is happy being a backup and taking a pay cut then he is more than welcome to stay.[/quote]You show me a person playing that does not think they should be a starter and will show you a total looser.

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Yeah of course Brunell wants to start and believes he still can. There are plenty of guys that never come to the realization that they can't play anymore.

I don't think Brunell has reached that point where he can't play at all anymore, but his starting days are definitely behind him.

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[quote=Mattyk72;252832]Yeah of course Brunell wants to start and believes he still can. There are plenty of guys that never come to the realization that they can't play anymore.

I don't think Brunell has reached that point where he can't play at all anymore, but his starting days are definitely behind him.[/quote]
I agree but if I heard a player say that they could not be a starter I would worry about them as a player. Yes, there are guys who are back ups and know where they fit in but if asked they would say that they could be starters.

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I don't believe Mark will retire this year, but I kind of see Gibbs convincing Brunell to stick it out at least one more year with the Redskins.

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Mark to his credit was having a decent year, statistically anyway. I agree his starting days as a #1 guy are behind him. With that said, he has been nothing but class since coming to this team, accepting what ever role he is asked to do. I wouldn't mind him as a backup. problem with that is, when or if Jason starts to struggle, is Coach Joe going to pull the string too quick to get his VET back on the field. Joe has no patience for young players that make mistakes.

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I'm wondering what affect Brunell's return next year would have on the continued maturation process of Jason Campbell. Many times for a young QB knowing the coaches' favorite is still lurking in the background can cause uneasyness, feeling the slightest decline in play, he may be replaced. I wouldn't have a problem with Brunell's return if it could be worked out. I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is, it could be a distraction. I just think it's time for the team to move on " COMPLETELY".

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Mark Brunell: 2007 Comeback Player of the year.
He will be in Oakland and help Moss regain his old form.
Hey, My guess is as good as your...

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He'll be straight for a back-up. I could see him coming in if needed,and playing well. For a short stint(6 quarters). Just as long as the team continues to be lead by JC, I would'nt have a problem with it at all.

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At 36 turning 37 early next year, he's probably too old to start over somewhere as the starter. He could be a backup in pretty much any system.

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[quote=Longtimefan;252956]I'm wondering what affect Brunell's return next year would have on the continued maturation process of Jason Campbell. Many times for a young QB knowing the coaches' favorite is still lurking in the background can cause uneasyness, feeling the slightest decline in play, he may be replaced. I wouldn't have a problem with Brunell's return if it could be worked out. I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is, it could be a distraction. I just think it's time for the team to move on " COMPLETELY".[/quote]Gibbs isn't stupid though. He's loyal to all his players. When Mark was the starter, he was loyal to him. He made the change, and he will be loyal to his new QB.

He has to be and he knows it. The Ramsey situation...that was an exception, but I think it had a lot to do with the Campbell selection in the 05 draft.

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He would be a top shelf backup anywhere at this point. I would like to keep him around. I think he could be very good over a few games for us and I think he can be a positive example on Campbell because he has been a great Pro QB and knows how to act.

He only comes back with a renegotiated contract though, for backup pay. He's due a $6.63 million cap hit in 2007!

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didn't he talk about retiring before this season started?

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Why is it that everyone's dancing around the main issue here?

[IMG]http://www.redskins.com/uploads/photos/temp/main/INDMBEEDMLME/BrunellMark2.jpg[/IMG]

Mark Brunell has the best head of hair in all of football. Frankly, he should be promoted to the coaching staff to make sure the helmet doesn't ruin his line.

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Brunell will stick around in a backup role next year with a renegotiated contract. I think he actually likes it here. In addition, I remember an article where he says that he's appreciative for every year he plays now since he knows he's near the end of his career. While he feels he can start, I think he realizes that no team will give him that chance.
I also agree with the prior poster who said that he has always been a class act.

As far as favorites, Ramsey was the only male that I can think of who was "statuesque". Gibbs selected JC, and I would imagine with his play call on the Cooley TD, JC is at least a co-favorite of Gibbs now. Gibbs knows that, all things being equal, it is better to have JC in the game. I don't anticipate Gibbs pulling JC unless he starts putting up Vick-like passing numbers.

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[quote=BrudLee;253021]Why is it that everyone's dancing around the main issue here?

[IMG]http://www.redskins.com/uploads/photos/temp/main/INDMBEEDMLME/BrunellMark2.jpg[/IMG]

Mark Brunell has the best head of hair in all of football. Frankly, he should be promoted to the coaching staff to make sure the helmet doesn't ruin his line.[/quote]
this has got to be one of the best posts ever. instant classic

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[quote=GTripp0012;253000]At 36 turning 37 early next year, he's probably too old to start over somewhere as the starter. He could be a backup in pretty much any system.[/quote]


I think there are going to be a few teams shaking things up next year. Even if Brunell stays put in D.C., I could still see a starting opportunity coming up somewhere in the league.