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paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:06 PM

Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
Im a Skins fan of over 20 years. Im sick and tired of the poor clock management, poor play calling at the end of the game, and poor personnell decisions. All of these are the responsibility of Joe Gibbs. Thus, reluctantly, I am now of the opinion that he must step down. The play calling and clock management have been atrocious for 3 years now. Good Bye Joe.

Citizens for 81 12-03-2006 05:07 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
Here comes the insanity.

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:07 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
and the "gibbs must go" start, but will they ever end....................?

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:08 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
we need a hard ass

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:12 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
when we win it will be "gibbs is god" and shit like that.

paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:12 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
What's insane about it? Joe Gibbs is responsible for the clock management, he's responsible for the play calling as the head coach, and he's ultimately responsible for the personnell decisions, cause Snyder gets who Joe wants. Ive been following them forever, but its not blasphemy to call a spade a spade, Gibbs has failed.

paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:13 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
Blind faith without criticism will get us nowhere. How can anyone defend his playcalling this game and his clock management ever since his comeback? Joe Gibbs is the head coach, and ultimately he is responsible.

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:14 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
ive been a skins fan for about 20 years too and our problem is we dont treat this as a business. we try to build loyalty and in this day and age it does not exist. we need to totally rebuild from management to coaches to players no matter how much leadership or what they have done for the franchise....and yes im including gibbs. football these days is a what can you do for me now business..period

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:15 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
the man is a proven winner, its saunders fault. he is the one calling the plays.

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:16 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;254809]the man is a proven winner, its saunders fault. he is the one calling the plays.[/quote]
well he has had 13 weeks to take over playcalling and hasnt..... so it is

paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:18 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=charlielyons;254808]ive been a skins fan for about 20 years too and our problem is we dont treat this as a business. we try to build loyalty and in this day and age it does not exist. we need to totally rebuild from management to coaches to players no matter how much leadership or what they have done for the franchise....and yes im including gibbs. football these days is a what can you do for me now business..period[/quote]


THANK YOU!!! Finally some honesty.

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:19 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=paulskinsfan;254798]Im a Skins fan of over 20 years. Im sick and tired of the poor clock management, poor play calling at the end of the game, and poor personnell decisions. All of these are the responsibility of Joe Gibbs. Thus, reluctantly, I am now of the opinion that he must step down. The play calling and clock management have been atrocious for 3 years now. Good Bye Joe.[/quote]

so if we win, i don't ever want to hear you say gibbs is amazing.

same goes for anybody else that thinks gibbs should go.

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:20 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=paulskinsfan;254813]THANK YOU!!! Finally some honesty.[/quote]
welcome

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:20 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
gibbs is the washington redskins.

paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;254809]the man is a proven winner, its saunders fault. he is the one calling the plays.[/quote]


NO. NO. NO. Joe Gibbs brought in Saunders. Im so sick of no one putting the responsiblity for this mess on JOE GIBBS. Gibbs is the one who overspent for Brunnell and stuck by him. GIBBS is the one who brought in Saunders. Ultimately Gibbs is responsible and its time to take responsibility. Bring in Russ Grimm.

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:22 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;254816]gibbs is the washington redskins.[/quote]
yeah and ditka was the bears and he knew it was time to leave

DGreen28 12-03-2006 05:22 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
How many other coaches took us to the playoffs? Gibbs did just last year.

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:23 PM

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[quote=DGreen28;254819]How many other coaches took us to the playoffs? Gibbs did just last year.[/quote]
norv did in 99

paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:25 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;254814]so if we win, i don't ever want to hear you say gibbs is amazing.

same goes for anybody else that thinks gibbs should go.[/quote]


Whatever, drink the kool aide. Fine, make the argument, based on his work since he's been here the past 3 years and not the past, YOU make the argument for why Gibbs should stay? Go ahead give it a shot, you cannot do it.

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:25 PM

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[quote=charlielyons;254821]norv did in 99[/quote]

wow, one!!

do you think gw or AS could do any better? i sure as hell don't.

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:27 PM

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[quote=dall-assblows;254825]wow, one!!

do you think gw or AS could do any better? i sure as hell don't.[/quote]
i think we need a whole new coach from a totally diffrent system but not college

redskin63 12-03-2006 05:27 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
Everyone Likes To Jump On The Bandwagon When They Are Winning But When We Go Through Tough Times You Jump Ship. Last Year There Was Bad Play Calling, Poor Time Mangament, And Bad Personell Issues, And Still At The End Of The Year You Were Saying "gibbs Is God" "brunells Still Got It" And Many Other Things. The Biggest Thing We Dont Have This Year Is Chemistry, New O.c. New Recivers, New Playbook And A New Way Of Coaching For J.g. Oh And A New Q.b At The Helm. Its Not That Bad, Yes We Are Probably Not Going To Make The Playoffs But Look At The Bright Side, Did Brunell And Moss Really Connect This Year On A Deep Ball Like Campbell And Moss Did Today? And When (a Healthy) Portis Comes Back You Will See A Big Difference. Next Year Will Definatley Be Better Mark My Words. Barring A Major Personell Change. So To All Those Jumping Ship Its Sad, To All Those Keeping The Faith Hail To The Redskins!!!!

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:28 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=paulskinsfan;254824]Whatever, drink the kool aide. Fine, make the argument, based on his work since he's been here the past 3 years and not the past, YOU make the argument for why Gibbs should stay? Go ahead give it a shot, you cannot do it.[/quote]

playoffs last year. if JG was calling plays (what he is in the HOF for) i think we would be in a better position

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:30 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
and im really getting sick of everyone saying 3 rings when most people here were not alive for the first, in diapers for the 2nd and in elementary school for the third....

paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:30 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
#($&*(p*#&$(*#ht(*&t(*#$urkl))!!!!!!!!

IM SOOOOOO SICK OF THIS!!! IT IS NOT WORKING!!!! The damn personnel moves and draft strategy BLOW! The damn playcalling sucks ass. The damn clock management is HORRIBLE. You cannot say Joe Gibbs is not responsible, HE is the freakin head coach and he IS responsible. This is shit. We have squandered draft picks, and money to get here and folks "here" is another losing record and no chance to improve under the current system.

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:31 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=redskin63;254828]Everyone Likes To Jump On The Bandwagon When They Are Winning But When We Go Through Tough Times You Jump Ship. Last Year There Was Bad Play Calling, Poor Time Mangament, And Bad Personell Issues, And Still At The End Of The Year You Were Saying "gibbs Is God" "brunells Still Got It" And Many Other Things. The Biggest Thing We Dont Have This Year Is Chemistry, New O.c. New Recivers, New Playbook And A New Way Of Coaching For J.g. Oh And A New Q.b At The Helm. Its Not That Bad, Yes We Are Probably Not Going To Make The Playoffs But Look At The Bright Side, Did Brunell And Moss Really Connect This Year On A Deep Ball Like Campbell And Moss Did Today? And When (a Healthy) Portis Comes Back You Will See A Big Difference. Next Year Will Definatley Be Better Mark My Words. Barring A Major Personell Change. So To All Those Jumping Ship Its Sad, To All Those Keeping The Faith Hail To The Redskins!!!![/quote]

someone who isn't outside there mind, finally!!!

can ou believe this crazy thread?

welcome to the board

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:33 PM

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if anyone, GW should go. the defense is the worst pat of our team.

what are you guys smoking?

paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:33 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
Yo Dall-assblows, Im still waiting for you to make the case, based on Gibbs work over the past 3 years, that Gibbs should stay. You haven't because you can't.

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:34 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;254838]if anyone, GW should go. the defense is the worst pat of our team.

what are you guys smoking?[/quote]
i agree with that too

GTripp0012 12-03-2006 05:34 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=paulskinsfan;254824]Whatever, drink the kool aide. Fine, make the argument, based on his work since he's been here the past 3 years and not the past, YOU make the argument for why Gibbs should stay? Go ahead give it a shot, you cannot do it.[/quote]Because he is the greatest coach in franchise history and the team is in need of a legend figure to lead this team out of this hole they have dug.

He probably won't win another SB here, but if he can restore respectability over the next two seasons, that's more important than clock management or getting a no. 6 seed so we can get beat in the first round.

Who do you suggest replaces him? Give me a name.

paulskinsfan 12-03-2006 05:36 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;254838]if anyone, GW should go. the defense is the worst pat of our team.

what are you guys smoking?[/quote]


Dude, I am now convinced that you are retarded and that this is your "make a wish" to torment me on this board. How in the hell can you defend Gibbs based on his past, but in the very same breath you call for Williams' head when his defense has been top 10 the past 2 years?

skinsfan69 12-03-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=paulskinsfan;254817]NO. NO. NO. Joe Gibbs brought in Saunders. Im so sick of no one putting the responsiblity for this mess on JOE GIBBS. Gibbs is the one who overspent for Brunnell and stuck by him. GIBBS is the one who brought in Saunders. Ultimately Gibbs is responsible and its time to take responsibility. Bring in Russ Grimm.[/quote]

Now that would be an interesting hire. But it aint gonna happen.

DGreen28 12-03-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;254838]if anyone, GW should go. the defense is the worst pat of our team.

what are you guys smoking?[/quote]
Not GW but the GM needs to go. Bad trades and signings. Smoot, Pierce, Lavar, Clark, Bring in Arch

12thMan 12-03-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember. I think what Gibbs did during his tenure was cement the franchise among the greatest in football.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.

dall-assblows 12-03-2006 05:42 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=paulskinsfan;254840]Yo Dall-assblows, Im still waiting for you to make the case, based on Gibbs work over the past 3 years, that Gibbs should stay. You haven't because you can't.[/quote]

Gibbs isn't blowing coverages, missing tackles, making mistakes on the field. it is about execution.

its GW fault, we have absolutly no defense, not easy to win games when you've got no D.

i would love to see GW get fired

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:45 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=12thMan;254846]The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember. I think what Gibbs did during his tenure was cement the franchise among the greatest in football.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.[/quote]
i know paul and i agree

GTripp0012 12-03-2006 05:46 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;254848]Gibbs isn't blowing coverages, missing tackles, making mistakes on the field. it is about execution.

its GW fault, we have absolutly no defense, not easy to win games when you've got no D.

i would love to see GW get fired[/quote]I think Gregg Williams should be under the microscope the next 4 games. If he shows that he can get these guys to play well enough for us to win, I say keep him and all the vets and sign a piece or two. If the D shows no promise, we should tear it down, and start over with someone new as we become an offensive football team.

After all, if we were playing with a team of replacement players on D, it wouldn't be any worse.

DGreen28 12-03-2006 05:47 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=12thMan;254846]The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.[/quote] So if you change the coach who comes in that is better

12thMan 12-03-2006 05:48 PM

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[quote=charlielyons;254850]i know paul and i agree[/quote]


It's asanine the things the people actually say when it comes to Joe Gibbs. It's beyond me.

Look if the Cowboys can fire Tom 'friggin' Landry, we can certainly send some critism Joe Gibbs way.

charlielyons 12-03-2006 05:48 PM

Re: Im done....Gibbs must go.
 
[quote=charlielyons;254834]and im really getting sick of everyone saying 3 rings when most people here were not alive for the first, in diapers for the 2nd and in elementary school for the third....[/quote]
youngins read this


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