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12thMan 12-08-2006 10:12 AM

5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
It seems like the number 5 is in everything I write lately.

Here goes:

[B]Derrick Frost[/B]: He's been very steady for most of the season and has quieted his critics by rebounding from his pre-season and early season struggles. Hopefully, he'll finish strong and enter next season as one of the up and coming punters in the NFL.

[B]Kedric Golston[/B]: Not only has he had an impact in his rookie season, but he's a team guy, and he's starting to look like a steal in the sixth round. Who knows, a few years from now we may be saying how did this guy slip down so far in the draft?

[B]Ladell Betts[/B]: Betts' play and attitude has been admirable in Portis' absence. Provided we get a healthy Clinton Portis back next year, this should prove to be a very good tandem, especially if we get back to true gritty Joe Gibbs football. I would love nothing more than to see Betts go over 1,000 yds for the season. He derserves it.

[B]Jason Campbell[/B]: Only if we had started him earlier. Although Jason Campbell hasn't exactly shot the lights out in his first three starts, we can see that he is clearly the future of this franchise. Everything pivots on Campbell's developement. All things being equal, this kid should only get better.

[B]Rock Cartwright[/B]: He's found a way time and time again to make an impact on this team. Last year he proved to be a solid back-up at running back, filling in a critical times down the stretch. This year he's been a special teams demon on both sides of the ball. Rock has surprisingly given the Redskins a bona-fide kick-off return man.

These five guys have just stuck out in mind for some reason. I think from top to bottom, these are definitely true Redskins.

Gmanc711 12-08-2006 10:59 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
This might be a little pre-mature, and alot of you will probaboly think i'm only basing it on one game but I was pretty impressed from what we got from Troy Vincent. I hope we keep him around because I think he could be solid for another year when we try to groom someone to play next to Taylor (or maybe Preliou will come back strong, but from ACL surgery I have my doubts).

12thMan 12-08-2006 11:03 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
I agee with you on Troy. The only thing with him, though, is he's not a long term solution.

freddyg12 12-08-2006 11:04 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
I love Campbell, but of that list Golston is the biggest surprise. Add Montgomery to that & we may have our future DTs set for years to come.

dmek25 12-08-2006 11:07 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
other then the blocked kick, what has vincent done around here? on the pass that owens dropped, vincent got burnt. too old, and too injured. what the heck happened to doughty? can he play in this league? no one knows. why draft these guys if they are going to rot on the bench?

12thMan 12-08-2006 11:08 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
[quote=dmek25;257375]other then the blocked kick, what has vincent done around here? on the pass that owens dropped, vincent got burnt. too old, and too injured. what the heck happened to doughty? can he play in this league? no one knows. why draft these guys if they are going to rot on the bench?[/quote]


On that one turnover..Doughty looked super slow. I was like, is this a replay of this guy running or what.

gabe1984 12-08-2006 11:26 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
I think another bright spot this year is the play of James Thrash. Thrash may not be a superstar or big play threat, but he always seems to make impact plays here and there. He's caught some third and long passes for first downs, and usually makes plays on special teams as well. I like him because you never hear him speak and he's not really a go to guy, but he plays within himself and helps out where he can. I hope the Skins decide to keep him around because I think he's the type of hard working, good character guy that the skins need.

hesscl34 12-08-2006 11:46 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
Frost - God bless him.

hail_2_da_skins 12-08-2006 11:47 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
I would have to include Vernon Fox onto your list. Since Archuletta is a bust and Vincent has missed some time due to injury, Fox has done a nice job filling in at strong safety and has an opportunity of nailing down that position for next year.

12thMan 12-08-2006 11:51 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
[quote=hail_2_da_skins;257412]I would have to include Vernon Fox onto your list. Since Archuletta is a bust and Vincent has missed some time due to injury, Fox has done a nice job filling in at strong safety and has an opportunity of nailing down that position for next year.[/quote]

You know I thought about Fox - for a split second.

These five have been consistent all season long or made some game changing plays. Fox on the other hand, has sorta stood in for Vincent while injured. Not to take anything away from his contribution though.

MTK 12-08-2006 11:52 AM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
Golston has been a real find. Hopefully Montgomery can also develop, he seemed a little lost earlier in the year when he and Golston both started.

redsk1 12-08-2006 12:02 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
Anytime your punter is included anywhere on a list of top 5 bright spots you know your in trouble.

I've been most impressed w/ Golston. He seems like the real deal. I'm having a hard time w/ anyone else on the d b/c they've been so bad.

Betts, has been very good, but we've kindof known he is a pretty good backup.

Rock has done a better than expected job, and seems to have created a niche for himself.

hail_2_da_skins 12-08-2006 12:02 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
[quote=12thMan;257415]You know I thought about Fox - for a split second.

These five have been consistent all season long or made some game changing plays. Fox on the other hand, has sorta stood in for Vincent while injured. Not to take anything away from his contribution though.[/quote]

Fox may have not been consistent all year, but he has in my view been a pleasant surprise. I know he has done well on special teams, but I didn't know he could field his position pretty well and there is some potential for improvement. I also noticed that because he was handling his side of the field, Sean Taylor started making more plays. I'm still puzzled as to what the Skins are going to do with Adam Archuletta. It would be too big of a salary cap hit to just let him go. They have to find a way to get some production out of him.

12thMan 12-08-2006 12:20 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
[quote=hail_2_da_skins;257424]Fox may have not been consistent all year, but he has in my view been a pleasant surprise. I know he has done well on special teams, but I didn't know he could field his position pretty well and there is some potential for improvement. I also noticed that because he was handling his side of the field, Sean Taylor started making more plays. I'm still puzzled as to what the Skins are going to do with Adam Archuletta. It would be too big of a salary cap hit to just let him go. They have to find a way to get some production out of him.[/quote]

It looks more and more like we're going to bite the bullet on Archuletta....and letta him go.

I think Fox will further assert himself next year.

SmootSmack 12-08-2006 12:21 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
12thMan should hang his head in shame for not spelling "Redskins" correctly in the thread title

Or was that your subtle way of saying the Redskins have no "D"? ;)

12thMan 12-08-2006 12:26 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
[quote=TAFKAS;257439]12thMan should hang his head in shame for not spelling "Redskins" correctly in the thread title

Or was that your subtle way of saying the Redskins have no "D"? ;)[/quote]

Damn dude, you caught that! hahaha

Hey, could you put the 'D' back in there for me...?

SmootSmack 12-08-2006 12:30 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
Done

dmek25 12-08-2006 12:30 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
maybe he ought to rethink his caveman philosophy :)

ArtMonkDrillz 12-08-2006 12:31 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;257443]Hey, could you put the 'D' back in there for me...?[/QUOTE]
I don't think they should. You should have to forever be known for your error. You should have to wear the missed "D" as a sign to all others of your past sins.



Much like my name has the stupid "Z" in it because I thought it would make me seem edgy. :(

firstdown 12-08-2006 12:33 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
I don't know how you can have JC as a bright spot of this year. He has only started in three games which we have lost two. His average yards per game is around 150 yards, 50% completion, and he has three int. I'm not saying he does not have the potential to become a good QB but saying he is a surprise of the year is just dream.

12thMan 12-08-2006 01:03 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=firstdown;257455]I don't know how you can have JC as a bright spot of this year. He has only started in three games which we have lost two. His average yards per game is around 150 yards, 50% completion, and he has three int. I'm not saying he does not have the potential to become a good QB but saying he is a surprise of the year is just dream.[/quote]

I disagree. In my opinion, JC has been a bright spot. Obviously I was looking at more than simply statistics. I think his stats will come with time, by the way.

But it's become evident thus far his presence can change the dymanics of the offense and how we game plan some. He's made some throws already that we haven't seen in a while. If you want to look at his stats, sure we could nitpick all day long, but things like his poise, movement in the pocket and out of the pocket, his arm, down field vision are all positives. ([I]see Jason Campbell thread by 12thMan[/I]).

In the end, I think he's definitely given this team a lot to look forward to next year.

hesscl34 12-08-2006 01:23 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
[quote=TAFKAS;257439]12thMan should hang his head in shame for not spelling "Redskins" correctly in the thread title

Or was that your subtle way of saying the Redskins have no "D"? ;)[/quote]

Shame! Shame!:spank:

hesscl34 12-08-2006 01:25 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=firstdown;257455]I don't know how you can have JC as a bright spot of this year. He has only started in three games which we have lost two. His average yards per game is around 150 yards, 50% completion, and he has three int. I'm not saying he does not have the potential to become a good QB but saying he is a surprise of the year is just dream.[/quote]

They never should have benched Brunell, not until ALL playoffs hope were lost..... Yes, I said it, and that's how I feel and I don't care if you guys don't like it!!

celts32 12-08-2006 01:27 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
The only bright spot I can think of has been the weather at the games...I have been to every game except last weeks and I have been able to wear shorts every time. Makes for a good day at the stadium.

As for the field...there is no way we have 5 bright spots from this season...Golston is a bright spot & Campbell has looked promising but no way I get up to 5.

12thMan 12-08-2006 01:27 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=hesscl34;257514]They never should have benched Brunell, not until ALL playoffs hope were lost..... Yes, I said it, and that's how I feel and I don't care if you guys don't like it!![/quote]


Ummm...this thread is about 5 Bright Spots. How did Brunell's name come up?

12thMan 12-08-2006 01:29 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=celts32;257515]The only bright spot I can think of has been the weather at the games...I have been to every game except last weeks and I have been able to wear shorts every time. Makes for a good day at the stadium.

As for the field...there is no way we have 5 bright spots from this season...Golston is a bright spot & Campbell has looked promising but no way I get up to 5.[/quote]


So you haven't been please with Rock, Ladell and Frost?

hesscl34 12-08-2006 01:31 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=12thMan;257516]Ummm...this thread is about 5 Bright Spots. How did Brunell's name come up?[/quote]

How did that happen? ... I meant to post this elsewhere... I will copy and paste.

hesscl34 12-08-2006 01:31 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=12thMan;257516]Ummm...this thread is about 5 Bright Spots. How did Brunell's name come up?[/quote]

You were talking about how great JC is, so it made me think of Brunell.

12thMan 12-08-2006 01:33 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=hesscl34;257526]You were talking about how great JC is, so it made me think of Brunell.[/quote]


I guess. I never called JC great, I just said I thought he's been a bright spot.

hesscl34 12-08-2006 01:36 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=12thMan;257528]I guess. I never called JC great, I just said I thought he's been a bright spot.[/quote]

Blah.. he's been our dose of reality that the season is over..

jdlea 12-08-2006 01:37 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Reskins This Year
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;257415]You know I thought about Fox - for a split second.

These five have been consistent all season long or made some game changing plays. Fox on the other hand, has sorta stood in for Vincent while injured. Not to take anything away from his contribution though.[/QUOTE]

The only thing I have against Fox is all of last week's game. He looked horrible. He consistently got torched by Crumpler, which I can excuse, but instead of trying to make a tackle on the first big completion, he tries to lay him out instead of going for the actual tackle...he's Alge Crumpler! Also, he fell down on the Norwood run when he could have at least slowed him. If he makes that play, who knows how that drive and the game go. I'm not blaming the loss on him, but he had a bad game last week. Not that that should be all he's judged on, but I don't think he's ready to start just yet.

ArtMonkDrillz 12-08-2006 01:37 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[QUOTE=hesscl34;257514]They never should have benched Brunell, not until ALL playoffs hope were lost..... Yes, I said it, and that's how I feel and I don't care if you guys don't like it!![/QUOTE]
I guess dallas shouldn't have benched bledsoe until all their hopes for the playoffs were dashed... oh, wait...

celts32 12-08-2006 01:40 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;257518]So you haven't been please with Rock, Ladell and Frost?[/QUOTE]

Those guys have played pretty well but not well enough to excite me in the midst of a 4-8 season.

hesscl34 12-08-2006 01:41 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;257533]I guess dallas shouldn't have benched bledsoe until all their hopes for the playoffs were dashed... oh, wait...[/quote]

We're not Dallas, and JC isn't Romo..... And Brunell isn't Bledsoe...

What's all this Dallas talk anyway? Bunch of cowgals on this site or what?

12thMan 12-08-2006 01:43 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=celts32;257536]Those guys have played pretty well but not well enough to excite me in the midst of a 4-8 season.[/quote]

And that's all I'm really getting at, in the midst of a bad season...these guys have done a really good job - bright spots.

With Campbell it's more about what he represents than the actual numbers.

The Zimmermans 12-08-2006 01:44 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
Sellers is having another great year in my opiion, god i hope we keep him around for a while

12thMan 12-08-2006 01:46 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=hesscl34;257537]We're not Dallas, and JC isn't Romo..... And Brunell isn't Bledsoe...

What's all this Dallas talk anyway? Bunch of cowgals on this site or what?[/quote]

It's better that we tear Dallas up, instead of each other like we've been doing lately?

hesscl34 12-08-2006 01:49 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=12thMan;257545]It's better that we tear Dallas up, instead of each other like we've been doing lately?[/quote]

:bdh:

firstdown 12-08-2006 02:05 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[quote=12thMan;257490]I disagree. In my opinion, JC has been a bright spot. Obviously I was looking at more than simply statistics. I think his stats will come with time, by the way.

But it's become evident thus far his presence can change the dymanics of the offense and how we game plan some. He's made some throws already that we haven't seen in a while. If you want to look at his stats, sure we could nitpick all day long, but things like his poise, movement in the pocket and out of the pocket, his arm, down field vision are all positives. ([I]see Jason Campbell thread by 12thMan[/I]).

In the end, I think he's definitely given this team a lot to look forward to next year.[/quote]Yes he does have most of what you have said but his numbers do not say that he is this surprise. Romo has been a big surprise but I'm sorry Jason has not been. Your doing what you accused MB fans of so take off those JC glasses.

jdlea 12-08-2006 02:07 PM

Re: 5 Bright Spots for the Redskins This Year
 
[QUOTE=hesscl34;257537]We're not Dallas, and JC isn't Romo..... And Brunell isn't Bledsoe...

What's all this Dallas talk anyway? Bunch of cowgals on this site or what?[/QUOTE]

Yes, deflect everything by saying someone else isn't a fan. Don't contradict the vaild argument. The fact is no one knew what JC and Romo were, they did know they weren't winning with Brunell or Bledsoe. What was the problem with pulling them?


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