Bill B Presents TMC's Pick the Position Poll
 

If the Redskins could get one and [B]only[/B] one new starter in 2007, what position should it be (with no regard to salary cap or what players are available).

Basically, I don’t want you guys thinking about who is available or how much cap space we have. Just think about what position is our single most pressing need.

PS: These are only on-field positions, so GM doesn’t count

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I voted first, I win. I said CB because Shawn Springs is getting up there in age and Carlos hasn't shown all that much improvement.

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Based on Rogers' overall ineffectiveness and Springs' injuries and age, I'd say corner.

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I said DE, without question.

I would give Carlos one more year before giving up on him. I think if this guy can focus on catching his stock will go way up. The entire defense has had it's woes. Springs? I don't think he's old as some would suggest. He's what, 31-32 yrs old...his issue is staying healthy, not age at this point.

We need a DE to help create some pressure up front. Have you noticed how the Bears and Ravens get so many turnovers? Their secondary isn't full of pro bowlers, but they get in the QBs face and force errors.

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I was between S and CB, I voted safety though cause they need someone to make Sean Taylor more comfortable back there so he can go make to making plays.

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I think Rogers will cypher out the nature of the job............but as has been said, Springs isn't getting more healthy

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WE need a CB. Every team in the NFL throws deep on us... it's time to shut that down!

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I also said DE, for a couple of reasons.

1 -- because DB's don't need to be world beaters if they don't have to keep coverage on a play for 5-10 seconds.

2 -- because of simple math and physics. Even a small disturbance at the origin of an object's trajectory can cause a huge change, whereas often even large disturbances at the end can still be compensated for.

3 -- because DB's don't help that much in run support, either.

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[quote=Hog1;259321]I think Rogers will cypher out the nature of the job............but as has been said, Springs isn't getting more healthy[/quote]


That being said, I'll take a good DE over a replacement for Springs.

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[quote=hesscl34;259322]WE need a CB. Every team in the NFL throws deep on us... it's time to shut that down![/quote]

I agree, in case anyone has missed it we've been torched for big plays at an alarming rate this year. We desperately need help in the secondary. A corner that can catch an INT now and then would be a nice start.

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[quote=dgack;259323]I also said DE, for a couple of reasons.

1 -- because DB's don't need to be world beaters if they don't have to keep coverage on a play for 5-10 seconds.

2 -- because of simple math and physics. Even a small disturbance at the origin of an object's trajectory can cause a huge change, whereas often even large disturbances at the end can still be compensated for.

3 -- because DB's don't help that much in run support, either.[/quote]

Good points. But my biggest thing is, the DE helps force those errors. I think we'd be surprised how much better our secondary would look with some help up front.

I don't care how good or fast you are, you can't cover an NFL receiver forever.

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[QUOTE=dgack;259323]2 -- because of simple math and physics. Even a small disturbance at the origin of an object's trajectory can cause a huge change, whereas often even large disturbances at the end can still be compensated for.[/QUOTE]

Greatest explanation ever!!!

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I'm torn between DT and DE.

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[quote=TAFKAS;259330]I'm torn between DT and DE.[/quote]

You know I like the combo of Golston, Griff, and Joe S.
The kid Montgomery will be in the mix too.

If had to choose one and only one, it would be DE.

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MLB!!!!!!! the backbone of the defense (the supposed leader in tackles), Marshall is invisible out there, need that LB to stop that run. Once you stop the run, then you can think about stopping the pass. Next most important position is DT, better DT's will lead to improved DE play. GW had great Linebackers until this year, I believe that is the difference between this year and last, linebacker play.

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[quote=12thMan;259331]You know I like the combo of Golston, Griff, and Joe S.
The kid Montgomery will be in the mix too.

If had to choose one and only one, it would be DE.[/quote]

Yeah I think we're ok at DT, Golston's emergence has made me feel a lot better about the position.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;259331]You know I like the combo of Golston, Griff, and Joe S.
The kid Montgomery will be in the mix too.

If had to choose one and only one, it would be DE.[/QUOTE]

I don't know how much Griff and the Samoan have left. Overall I think you're probably right, get another DE opposite Carter. I think the line on both sides is what we need to shore up first and foremost

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[quote=12thMan;259312]I said DE, without question.

I would give Carlos one more year before giving up on him. I think if this guy can focus on catching his stock will go way up. The entire defense has had it's woes. Springs? I don't think he's old as some would suggest. He's what, 31-32 yrs old...his issue is staying healthy, not age at this point.

We need a DE to help create some pressure up front. Have you noticed how the Bears and Ravens get so many turnovers? Their secondary isn't full of pro bowlers, but they get in the QBs face and force errors.[/quote]


Need A DE opposite Carter who has come on of late. Springs looks very good when health. With him across from Rogers all year that would be solid. Need a Middle LB also!!

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[quote=TAFKAS;259335]I don't know how much Griff and the Samoan have left. Overall I think you're probably right, get another DE opposite Carter. I think the line on both sides is what we need to shore up first and foremost[/quote]

Griff just needs to get AND stay healthy, that's been his main problem the last two seasons. He just turned 30, he's still got some gas in the tank.

Big Joe's days as a starter are done thanks to Golston, hopefully Montgomery can step up and contribute more next year.

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I was seriously torn. CB is a big need but if Springs is healthy he can be a good #1 and Rogers is fine as a #2. Then I thought of Safety and wondered whether our ineffectiveness there was based soley on talent or whether the overall sturggles of the D magnified the deficiency. DL is a strong candidate but we are adequate there. I said LB because Williams' D are predicated on quality LB play and we had some serious lack of play making or even adequacy at OLB. I think a guy who can play the run solid and make a few plays makes our D this past year at least average. And since I have no idea if Rocky can do the job I'd say that's where I'd add the player.

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[quote=FRPLG;259339]I was seriously torn. CB is a big need but if Springs is healthy he can be a good #1 and Rogers is fine as a #2. Then I thought of Safety and wondered whether our ineffectiveness there was based soley on talent or whether the overall sturggles of the D magnified the deficiency. DL is a strong candidate but we are adequate there. I said LB because Williams' D are predicated on quality LB play and we had some serious lack of play making or even adequacy at OLB. I think a guy who can play the run solid and make a few plays makes our D this past year at least average. And since I have no idea if Rocky can do the job I'd say that's where I'd add the player.[/quote]


Washington on the outside, Rocky in the middle, Marshall or Lance Briggs on the outside????

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But overall we need upgrades almost accross the board. One wont make us good again. :(

I'd say:
OLB
CB
S
DE
MLB

would give us the most impact in that order.

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[QUOTE=JDALY27;259340]Washington on the outside, Rocky in the middle, Marshall or Lance Briggs on the outside????[/QUOTE]

I have heard several people mention Rocky in the middle and I am big time skeptical. MLB is the QB of the D and we have seen what losing a quality leader there has done to our D. Since Rocky struggled to even play until this past few weeks he'd have to make some serious strides in understanding the scheme and gaining the respect of the other guys. I don't see him moving to the middle next year really. There's so much that would have to happen. To me if he is playing MLB next year we are in trouble.

But I'd dig Briggs. Maybe long term that lineup would be sweet. Maybe Washington,Marshall,Briggs with Rocky working in at MLB by years end would be best.

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[quote=FRPLG;259341]But overall we need upgrades almost accross the board. One wont make us good again. :(

I'd say:
OLB
CB
S
DE
MLB

would give us the most impact in that order.[/quote]

Briggs would be sick! We have corners, maybe draft one. Safety?? Who plays with Taylor is big, fox actually looked ok. DE definately someone else besides Carter. Pick up Briggs and move Rocky to the middle or vice versa. We can buy 5 new guys and expect them to gell......

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;259338]Griff just needs to get AND stay healthy, that's been his main problem the last two seasons. He just turned 30, he's still got some gas in the tank.[/QUOTE]

He needs someone to take some pressure off him. When he was a beast 3 years ago JoeMoa was a Ted Washington/Sam Adams type DT who took up blocks and was basically a wall against the run. Since then Joe has regressed and simply isn't nearly as effective. Now Griff is banged up and has to take on more punishment in the middle. Golston progressing and Griff getting healthy will greatly improve our interior D next year I am thinking.

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[QUOTE=JDALY27;259343]Briggs would be sick! We have corners, maybe draft one. Safety?? Who plays with Taylor is big, fox actually looked ok. DE definately someone else besides Carter. Pick up Briggs and move Rocky to the middle or vice versa. We can buy 5 new guys and expect them to gell......[/QUOTE]

I think Carter has come on the last 4 games. Certainly not what we wanted but maybe it is just taking him time to adjust back to playing DE. I am more worried about Daniels' total lack of production.

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[quote=FRPLG;259345]I think Carter has come on the last 4 games. Certainly not what we wanted but maybe it is just taking him time to adjust back to playing DE. I am more worried about Daniels' total lack of production.[/quote]


I felt the same way about Carter until the Atlanta game. He had 11 tackles and 1 sack. That is crazy for a DE to have that many tackles. His play has definately picked up. It would be one thing if he never showed those signs, think he turned the corner.

Any thoughts on ST the big hitter? What is going on with him? Is it the coaches or what?? He's my favorite Skin but man he needs to make more plays. He gets like no picks or turnovers......

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I picked DE as I think the Safety position (my second choice) will be fixed when Prileau makes it back next year and a contract extention on Troy Vincent. We need a dominant DE that can change the game and disrupt timing and get to the QB within 5 seconds! Our secondary looks a whole hell of a lot better with a good pass rush!

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I think ST is looking to make too many big hits. I'd prefer his first line of intention to be to go get the ball. Not go hurt the guy with the ball.

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[quote=jbcjr14;259349]I picked DE as I think the Safety position (my second choice) will be fixed when Prileau makes it back next year and a contract extention on Troy Vincent. We need a dominant DE that can change the game and disrupt timing and get to the QB within 5 seconds! Our secondary looks a whole hell of a lot better with a good pass rush![/quote]


Prileau? After he torn his whole knee out. Not sure about that one. Vincent? One blocked field goal, granted it was huge.

We may have to hit the market for that position. Stinks b/c ST needs to gell with someone back there.

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I chose CB because I'm still liking the idea/theory of Springs switching to FS. I wish Kenny Wright or ...{sigh} Rumph would have stepped up but neither one has shown any consistency. We need a field general at MLB which would be my 2nd pick followed by DE.

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Pass rushing DE.

Don't even give the QB time to throw.

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[quote=JDALY27;259351]Prileau? After he torn his whole knee out. Not sure about that one. Vincent? One blocked field goal, granted it was huge.

We may have to hit the market for that position. Stinks b/c ST needs to gell with someone back there.[/quote]

I think Adam Archuleta might be available next year, maybe we should snag him.....

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I said safety.

We still need SOLID cb depth, but first and foremost we've got to patch our weakness, and safety IMO is just that.

D-Line is probably #2.

Then O-line is #3.

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You have to look at it like this...Injuries WILL happen. There is no doubt in my mind that Springs will be injured next year at some point, due mainly to his age. So that leaves Rogers as a #1, and who as a #2?
At DE or LB we have replacements that are mediocre and could get away with those players in those areas, but we can't make it at CB. We've proven that. When Springs and Rogers are on their game, we have a decent secondary, when they aren't, we suck HARD. Clearly our most pressing need is CB.
That's not to say we don't need a DE or LB (LB especially). We do, just CB is more pressing.

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WR - move Santana over to be the #1 CB. So Campbell isn't confused let's trade AA to the Raiders for Randy Moss.







...just kidding

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;259364]

Then O-line is #3.[/QUOTE]

Really??? O-Line??? That is one of the few places I think we need nothing (assuming we re-sign Dockery).

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;259366]WR - move Santana over to be the #1 CB. So Campbell isn't confused let's trade AA to the Raiders for Randy Moss.







...just kidding[/QUOTE]

If we could get a box of doughnuts for AA, I'd do that.

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If you get doughnuts, you better share. I had to suffer him being in there too!

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I know how archuleta can help us!!!!! he can wear a goat suit on the sidelines, then people can throw veggies at him. That'll get the skins fans to the games.