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[B]anybody think that portis will request to be traded after the way betts has played since he's been out?i can't see too many changes next year at rb,i still see portis,betts,dockett,sellers,and rock back.[/B]
[B]anybody think the skins may shop portis to somebody like jacksonville,atlanta,or maybe even the dolphins?[/B]

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There is a slim chance the skins may shop portis but i feel its unlikely based on what gibbs has said about portis being the starting back. A big part of betts success running is the O-Lines play has been fantastic.

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No, because Gibbs himself said that Portis is our guy and clearly Betts was comfortable with being on the same team as a Portis otherwise he would've waited for free agency. If one thing is clear to me it is that our Running backs are comfortable with playing with each other. I can't wait for the two back set next year.

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Betts is awesome back there. Today he goes unnoticed but still rished for 119 and a 5.4 avg. Thats awesome and I think him and Portis will be a lethal combination back there next year.

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Portis-Betts in '07, man I can't wait!

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Holy crap. Redskinhog1963, are you who I think you are? The grammar sure is the same. If so, what a blast from the past!

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Matty, is an immediate ban possible for anyone starting a trade/cut Portis thread? C'mon, the guy is top 10 back in the league when healthy.. Betts has had 5 good games in his career, 4 of them this year.. He's a good complimentary back but he's not a 16 game feature back.

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gotta give each at least 10-15 carries a game, then ride the hot guy on that day

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betts has been good, but it seems like he is going to fumble on just about every play

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This subject has been beaten to a pulp. We need both back healthy and running the rock.

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The combination did not look that well this year due to the injuries to Portis and the lack of prolonged drives at the beginning of the season. The way the playcalling is shaping up and hopefully the continous development of Campbell the offense will sustain more drives in each game and in turn give both backs plenty of touches.

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Betts is obviously happy with whatever role he has in Washington. He just wants to be a Redskin and signing that 5 year deal proved as such. While saying that, I can't help but to feel Betts' role will greatly increase next year. Let us not forget that when Gibbs had his championship teams, he always carried at least two running backs that could start for any team in the league.

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FOX had a stat that I just barely caught -- something about Betts being the only running back in Redskins history with as many rushing yards over three straight games? Anyone else hear that?

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Betts now has 933 yards rushing on the season, he should easily crack 1000 now barring injury. He's had a heck of a season!

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[quote=Beemnseven;261240]FOX had a stat that I just barely caught -- something about Betts being the only running back in Redskins history with as many rushing yards over three straight games? Anyone else hear that?[/quote]

Yea I heard it, it surprised me too

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Wouldn't it be something to see both Portis and Betts go over 1000 yards next season?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the last time that happened was for the Browns in '85 -- Earnest Byner and Kevin Mack.

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A) Portis has very little trade value ( i'd say a low 2nd at best)

B) He would have ran for another 200 yards more than Betts in these three weeks (holes have been HUGE) and thats nothing against Betts because I love the man.

C) It'd be stupid. If we go into next year with Rock Cartwright and Ladell Betts as our 1/2 punch (and trust me I love both these guys) were in deep shit.

I fully expect to see Portis get about 20 carries a game, Betts 15. If we shop Porits, were in big trouble.

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[QUOTE=Redskinhog1963;261131]jacksonville,atlanta,or maybe even the dolphins?[/QUOTE]

Jacksonville - Jones Drew
Atlanta - Dunn/Norwood
Miami - Brown

Any other teams you can think of that need a running back, how about the Saints, they could use running backs.

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[QUOTE=drew54;261251]Jacksonville - Jones Drew
Atlanta - Dunn/Norwood
Miami - Brown

Any other teams you can think of that need a running back, how about the Saints, they could use running backs.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, how 'bout the Chargers? They're really hurting for RBs.

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[quote=Beemnseven;261245]Wouldn't it be something to see both Portis and Betts go over 1000 yards next season?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the last time that happened was for the Browns in '85 -- Earnest Byner and Kevin Mack.[/quote]

Yeah that was the last time, but it's probably going to happen this year with Vick and Dunn.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;261175]This subject has been beaten to a pulp. We need both back healthy and running the rock.[/QUOTE]



Does sound very much like "Betts Better Than Portis" which we beat the hell out of last week dosen't it?

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[quote=ncskinsfanec;261148]Portis-Betts in '07, man I can't wait![/quote]

i'd vote for 'em

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I cannot image Portis not being a Redskin. If he goes, what about Moss (his best friend), and Taylor? They are all very close. I don't even want to think about it.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;261247]A) Portis has very little trade value ( i'd say a low 2nd at best)[/QUOTE]

Not that I would trade him but where did you get that idea from? His contract is hard to swallow but the man is worth a lot more than a 2nd round pick. And last time I checked he is 26 and in his prime.

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Portis is chomping at the bit to get back in the game with the way the O-line has been playing. I think he's looking forward to staying right where he is.

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[quote=hesscl34;261261]I cannot image Portis not being a Redskin. If he goes, what about Moss (his best friend), and Taylor? They are all very close. I don't even want to think about it.[/quote]

I think you have a point in this, not that Portis is in my view is in danger of being traded. The business side of the house and managing the cap plays a role, but the most damaging thing since most players love Portis and what he brings to the team with Skills, leadership, character, and annointed Mr. Redskin by most fans. That would be really damaging to what I see as the Redskins keeping core players together and building it around your playmakers. Especially with the comfort that the two backs have working together it is not selfish with these two.

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[QUOTE=cpayne5;261160]Holy crap. Redskinhog1963, are you who I think you are? The grammar sure is the same. If so, what a blast from the past![/QUOTE]

Could it be?

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u cant trade portis just based off his salary. no team is going to on that big contract. u have to release him and that is a huge cap hit. no way portis is gone. betts knows portis is the starter betts does alot more than just play rb can play special teams, hes a good reciever out the backfield. plus portis takes himself out of the game alot so betts will get his touchs too next year

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;261280]Could it be?[/quote]

Too coincidental for it not to be!

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[quote=Beemnseven;261240]FOX had a stat that I just barely caught -- something about Betts being the only running back in Redskins history with as many rushing yards over three straight games? Anyone else hear that?[/quote]
Fox pointed out that Betts was the first Washington running back to ever have back-to-back 150+ yard rushing games.

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[quote=hesscl34;261261]I cannot image Portis not being a Redskin. If he goes, what about Moss (his best friend), and Taylor? They are all very close. I don't even want to think about it.[/quote]
Portis is going nowhere. Throughout all of Gibbs 1.0 glory, we always had two very capable running backs (Riggins/Joe Washington, Riggins/ George Rogers, Rogers/Timmy Smith, Byner/Riggs, Byner/Ervins/Riggs). Remember, both Portis and Betts have each had their share of injuries, so sharing the load should only help. Gibbs should do the right thing and push to give Derrick Dockery a new contract before he becomes a free agent in March. The O-line has been mauling defenses for the past 4 games, and Gibbs should make it a priority to keep them together instead of spending on another glitzy free agent.

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[quote=Redskinhog1963;261131][B]anybody think that portis will request to be traded after the way betts has played since he's been out?i can't see too many changes next year at rb,i still see portis,betts,dockett,sellers,and rock back.[/B]
[B]anybody think the skins may shop portis to somebody like jacksonville,atlanta,or maybe even the dolphins?[/B][/quote]


Take a look at the salary cap page.

Betts signed his extension as the backup. No ifs ands or butts.

Why would Portis ask to be traded because the backup runningback is doing great? That makes absolutely no sense.

There is no chance that Duckett is back next year. None whatsoever.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;261337]Take a look at the salary cap page.

Betts signed his extension as the backup. No ifs ands or butts.

Why would Portis ask to be traded because the backup runningback is doing great? That makes absolutely no sense.

There is no chance that Duckett is back next year. None whatsoever.[/quote]
I totally agree. Why would Portis want to get out of D.C. as some have suggested.

Portis is loving this. He has always openly said that he would love to share the load, and that he wants Betts to succeed. He's never indicated any problem with having more than one back, especially with all his injuries.

Every ache and pain of Portis is getting easier to handle with every yard Betts gains.

It's going to be a very good 1,2 punch in 2007.

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Yeah I'm amazed that Betts is the first Redskins back in history to rush for 150+ yards in back to back games. He has been great as a backup this season, and all indications suggest he is looking forward to returning to his backup role next season, if he didn't he wouldn't have signed a contract extension. I'm really looking forward to see both Portis and Betts next season.

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If anything Betts will be trade bait not Portis.

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[QUOTE=cpayne5;261293]Too coincidental for it not to be![/QUOTE]

It is. It has to be. Too much info is the same or similar.

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before the season is over,he may go past jamie morris as the skin with the most rushes in a game.i think it's 42 in 1988 against the bengals.

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[quote=Redskinhog1963;261382]before the season is over,he may go past jamie morris as the skin with the most rushes in a game.i think it's 42 in 1988 against the bengals.[/quote]

I thought it was 37 against Philly in 89, we won 10-3 I believe.

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[quote=freddyg12;261386]I thought it was 37 against Philly in 89, we won 10-3 I believe.[/quote]

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=7082]Flashback: Morris Set the Bar High[/url]

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[quote=Redskinhog1963;261131][B]anybody think that portis will request to be traded after the way betts has played since he's been out?i can't see too many changes next year at rb,i still see portis,betts,dockett,sellers,and rock back.[/B]
[B]anybody think the skins may shop portis to somebody like jacksonville,atlanta,or maybe even the dolphins?[/B][/quote]

No.

Portis #1 (maybe slightly reduced and not on 3rd down to keep him healthier).
Betts #2
Duckett will probably be gone and Rock will be #3.

Yes, aside from LT...Betts is the best RB in the NFL over the last month, no one can stop him...but a lot of credit goes to the O-Line and we're also forgetting HOW GOOD PORTIS is. It'll be a killer 1-2 punch when CP is healthy and this season has proven that every team NEEDS at least 2 good RBs to compete. Where would we be WITHOUT Betts now?

Other teams are seeing it too...the Broncos, Jets, Titans, Dolphins, Lions, Vikings, Jaguars, Panthers, Seahawks, Packers, Bears, Eagles, Falcons, Texans, Raiders, Giants...all of these teams and more have needed capable backups this year because of injuries to their starting RBs.

We'd be stupid to get rid of either of them.