Should all 4 draft picks be used for Defense?
 

With so few picks should the Skins use all 4 on Defense? I thought this would be a good plan at first, but with the departure of Todd Wade this offseason most likely becuase some other team will want him to start for them, I would think the team should devote at least one of their picks for a backup offensive lineman - just wanted the boards thought on this.

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Honestly, I'd use them all for defense myself. Sure, more offensive line depth would be great, but you can always find other teams backups willing to depart for a little bit of cash.

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I think we should try to get at least three picks for our first round pick, then we can build some depth in many areas, and not JUST defense

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The lower draft picks are going to be "projects" at best. They are usually lucky to make the team is most cases. But, yes i think at least 3 on defense.

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I don't think it's a guarantee that Wade will leave. You never know. In fact, it would be very smart to lock him up, and not have to waste a pick there or go to FA.

Ummm...as far as using all the picks on defense. I don't know, they probably use at least the top two on defense, I would think. Maybe the last two on offense somewhere like along the o-line or a gem of TE would be nice.

Things change on draft day. I could easily see us moving down a bit and picking up a couple of picks. It's very possible.

You have to figure Brady Quinn will likely be the first pick to the Raiders. By the time we pick, it's going to be very tempting not to pass on the chance to get the kid from Penn St or Branch or Woodley (Michigan).

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Posluszny is the only pick I would be happy with if we decided to pick at #6

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For some reason, he looks REALLY small to me.

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242 i believe. He still has more weight to gain on his arms, which shouldnt be a problem.

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it only says 229 on the PSU web site, but they said 240 during the game on saturday, not sure which to trust

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[quote=12thMan;266167]I don't think it's a guarantee that Wade will leave. You never know. In fact, it would be very smart to lock him up, and not have to waste a pick there or go to FA.

Ummm...as far as using all the picks on defense. I don't know, they probably use at least the top two on defense, I would think. Maybe the last two on offense somewhere like along the o-line or a gem of TE would be nice.

Things change on draft day. I could easily see us moving down a bit and picking up a couple of picks. It's very possible.

You have to figure Brady Quinn will likely be the first pick to the Raiders. By the time we pick, it's going to be very tempting not to pass on the chance to get the kid from Penn St or Branch or Woodley (Michigan).[/quote]

If they can lock up Wade that would be great - I just fear that he will command huge money and with our starters on the line making as much as they are - I don't think they can give Wade a huge salary. I'd also like to see us get one more lineman to help with depth at Center/Guard.

I know the guys that teams pick in rounds 5-7 don't always make the team - but if you do land one or two that are impact players I would think that this would really help with dealing with the salary cap because typically these contracts for these guys are relatively small compared to a first rounder.

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I dunno. I just want someone to come in and make an impact like Tatupu.

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I really don't see how Wade is going to have much leverage. He's a guy that got a big money deal in Houston and was a flop. One quality start here isn't going to up his stock that much. He's a solid backup but a borderline starter.

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You just know we're going to waste one of these picks on an h-back/fullback type guy.

Manuel White anyone? Nehemiah Broughton?

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[quote=Beemnseven;266201]You just know we're going to waste one of these picks on an h-back/fullback type guy.

Manuel White anyone? Nehemiah Broughton?[/quote]

Since we don't have the h-back anymore I don't see why we would go that way.

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defense, defense, defense, and more defense. it looks as though j campbell got more and more comfortable the more he played. on offense, offensive line depth is the only position needed addressed this off season

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;266210]Since we don't have the h-back anymore I don't see why we would go that way.[/QUOTE]

I said h-back[B]/fullback[/B]. Just like Sellers was. The positions are pretty interchangeable.

Is it that far of a stretch to think that this organization might do some things that make you scratch your head?

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[quote=Beemnseven;266308]I said h-back[B]/fullback[/B]. Just like Sellers was. The positions are pretty interchangeable.

Is it that far of a stretch to think that this organization might do some things that make you scratch your head?[/quote]


Not a far stretch at all.

I would say though that if we keep Wade and sign another backup Guard/center, I wouldn't mind the skins drafting a really good BLOCKING TE - I think this would help out a lot on short yardage - not so sure Mike Pucillo is the answer here.

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[QUOTE=Bill B;266313]Not a far stretch at all.

I would say though that if we keep Wade and sign another backup Guard/center, I wouldn't mind the skins drafting a really good BLOCKING TE - I think this would help out a lot on short yardage - not so sure Mike Pucillo is the answer here.[/QUOTE]

Speaking of tight ends, have you noticed that there seem to be lots of teams going for two pass catching TEs lately? For instance, Dallas already had Jason Witten, then draft Anthony Fasano in the second round; Indy had Dallas Clark, then went after Ben Utecht; New England had Daniel Graham, then drafted Ben Watson in the first round...

Maybe not enough to suggest a trend, but it could be headed that way.

I've always thought you could find blocking TEs late in the draft, perhaps even through undrafted free agency. I'd be fine with it -- just as long as everything else went to our astoundingly pathetic D.

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[quote=Beemnseven;266316]Speaking of tight ends, have you noticed that there seem to be lots of teams going for two pass catching TEs lately? For instance, Dallas already had Jason Witten, then draft Anthony Fasano in the second round; Indy had Dallas Clark, then went after Ben Utecht; New England had Daniel Graham, then drafted Ben Watson in the first round...

Maybe not enough to suggest a trend, but it could be headed that way.

I've always thought you could find blocking TEs late in the draft, perhaps even through undrafted free agency. I'd be fine with it -- just as long as everything else went to our astoundingly pathetic D.[/quote]

I hope we get D too - my thoughts on undrafted free agency is maybe the Skins should go after some lower cost options instead. If my memory serves me correctly in Joe Gibbs Era I didn't he pick up a lot of good players this way - Joe Jacoby I believe was a low cost free agent pickup. Sometimes I would think that the players that don't require huge signing bonuses have a chip on their shoulder and play a lot better than their salary indicates.

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Yes.

I'd like to add more depth to the O-line but we don't have that luxury.

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I'd like to see some kind of pass ruch from the D line, I don't care if its a DT or DE as long as we can get some pressure, this will make the defense as a whole look better

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We found a QB. We're loaded at RB. The offensive line seems to be playing well. We have a decent TE. There might even be some hope in our pile of wide receivers. Maybe if we can teach Brandon a 4th route, his catches will double? Or get him glasses so he can see the ball isn't thrown 10 yards short?

Our defense was dead last against the pass, and imitated a speed bump for Tiki Barber last weekend. In theory, the coach there is pretty good so you gotta assume we have lost our horses. Maybe if we could get our hands on a top corner like Champ Bailey? Haha.

The biggest mistake made by Gibbs was day 1: passing on Steven Jackson (scouted as a real power runner) and trading Bailey for Portis. Of course, Bailey was unhappy so our hands were somewhat tied.

Anyway, have to agree: we need serious quality and depth on defense. Maybe keep our eye out for a lineman. Please don't draft the "superstar" WR! That would be a typical Redskin blunder. KC has gone years in this offense without a decent WR and done "ok".

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The smart move would be to trade the 6th pick for two late first round picks, but if we do keep it, I would love to see us get Gaines Adams from Clemson. He is a beast and would give us some GREAT outside pass rush. He is in the same mold as a Peppers or Freeney. With the way Andre Carter heated up at the end of the year, I think he and Adams could be a pretty fierce pair of ends. And my god do we need a middle linebacker. A converted safety (Marshall) just didn't cut it. Look at how porous we were against the run....

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[QUOTE=The Zimmermans;266173]Posluszny is the only pick I would be happy with if we decided to pick at #6[/QUOTE]

He isn't a top 10 pick.

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poslunszy is an olb we dont need that we need a guy to play the middle linbacker postion. but at this point i think we should take the best available defensive player on the board

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[quote=redskins5044;266353]poslunszy is an olb we dont need that we need a guy to play the middle linbacker postion. but at this point i think we should take the best available defensive player on the board[/quote]

I agree and that's why I think Gaines Adams would be awesome for us. Most people think he should be the first defensive player drafted. We need to force more turnovers, and pressure on the QB always helps in that department.

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[QUOTE=GMScud;266355]I agree and that's why I think Gaines Adams would be awesome for us. Most people think he should be the first defensive player drafted. We need to force more turnovers, and pressure on the QB always helps in that department.[/QUOTE]

My crackpot, anonymous sources (sometimes they're wrong, most times they're right) tell me that right now the Skins have DE targeted as their main position of need-they seemingly like what they have in Golton and Montgomery at DT.

Anyway, supposedly their top choice is Gaines Adams. But if he's already taken (Tampa perhaps) they'll look to trade down and take Quentin Moses and add a pick.

Of course, a lot could change between now and April.

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[quote=TAFKAS;266358]My crackpot, anonymous sources (sometimes they're wrong, most times they're right) tell me that right now the Skins have DE targeted as their main position of need-they seemingly like what they have in Golton and Montgomery at DT.

Anyway, supposedly their top choice is Gaines Adams. But if he's already taken (Tampa perhaps) they'll look to trade down and take Quentin Moses and add a pick.

Of course, a lot could change between now and April.[/quote]

I may be biased cause I'm a Gator fan, but Jarvis Moss would be a very good DE pick up, and will probably be around in Rd. 2.

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personally i would stay with the defense for all 4 picks but if they can trade down for more picks and still be able to get what they need out of it then by all means do it ..
i would look toward undrafted free agents for depth on offense and even more on defense and with the secondary ...

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I think defense should be the focus this year in the draft and in free agency. You know the Skins are not going to be quiet in the offseason and I look for at least 1 or 2 big defensive free agent signings (Clements and Smith). We still could use a little depth on the O-line and would not mind using a 5th-7th rounder on that.

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I don't think they'll go into the draft focused only on one side of the ball, though it's likely they will lean that way. You still have to evaluate the draft pick by pick and in some instances you have to go with the dreaded 'best player available'.

I think our top pick will be a defender, but beyond that who knows.

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It's looking more and more like Nate Clements is going to land here. I'm just hoping we don't break the bank on him.

We need some serious help at CB, and drafting a DE may actually help solve alot of problems for our defensive backfied (more pressure, less time, better db results).

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As much as I would love to see Calvin Johnson dawn the burgandy and gold next season, defense is our achilles heel. If we could draft Gaines Adams, and somehow draft Patrick Willis, those moves would definitely be a step in the right direction.

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I would draft the most talented player available, with only secondary consideration to need. Otherwise you end up like the Texans drafting Mario Williams when you could have had Reggie Bush. The Saints already had McAllister but they were smart enough to draft Bush anyway. If the most talented player available is not at a position you have any interest in getting help at, you can trade the pick at the best moment to someone willing to give the best deal.

With everything else being equal, we do need offensive line depth, defensive line help, and linebacker help. Corner I would address by signing the Buffalo free agent if we can, and safety I would really address by trying to get Ryan Clark back, to give us a fine player who fits in very well and is a real asset for Sean Taylor.

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[QUOTE=Oakland Red;267315][B]I would draft the most talented player available, with only secondary consideration to need[/B]. Otherwise you end up like the Texans drafting Mario Williams when you could have had Reggie Bush. The Saints already had McAllister but they were smart enough to draft Bush anyway. If the most talented player available is not at a position you have any interest in getting help at, you can trade the pick at the best moment to someone willing to give the best deal.[/QUOTE]

That rule is true for the most part, but still -- the Chargers wouldn't have drafted a running back when LT is on their roster, and I don't think they'd draft a quarterback either. There are still positions you stay away from. McAllister was banged up last year, and while still young, he's got some mileage on him. So Bush was a logical choice for the Saints anyway.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;267617]That rule is true for the most part, but still -- the Chargers wouldn't have drafted a running back when LT is on their roster, and I don't think they'd draft a quarterback either. There are still positions you stay away from. McAllister was banged up last year, and while still young, he's got some mileage on him. So Bush was a logical choice for the Saints anyway.[/QUOTE]

That and you could put Bush in the slot or line him up next to Deuce. Reggie affords you a lot more options than just another running back.

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I would use the 1st and the 5th on the defensive line. After that, we need a blocking TE and OL depth. So no, I wouldn't necessarily use all the picks on D. Of course with those late rounders, if a great talent slips, you have to pull the trigger.

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I think though every team should think defense first in the draft. Defense is only sustainable by consistently injecting youth into your defensive system year after year. Resigning the same guys in a successful D will eventually lead to failure (usually after about 3 years) and a rough cap situation. Successful offenses can be pieced together through free agency and sustained.

It just makes drafting a reciever high all the more ridicious. If your a team looking at drafting Robert Meachem, for example, what the heck is wrong with Drew Bennett?

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once you get into the 5th round, you kind of have to see who's left. the #1, whether picking straight up or trading for two picks (late 1st and a second), should both be DL. either DE or DT + DE. for the late picks, you're either looking at good special teamers, or a lot of guys that are backup material at best... though sometimes you get lucky.

we can resign wade and pucillo for OL depth. It'd be very hard for a 5th/6th/7th rounder to play better than they would. Wade was our best signing last year, cause we got a decent starter for vet min depth (the texans would have kept him if his price tag wasn't $4mill/year). If we wanted serious OL depth, last yeah was the time to get it, with starting OGs going into the 4th round (but we threw away our 3rd rounder in a trade up to pick a LB that couldn't get on the field for a 5-11 team with a terrible LB corp, for some reason).