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Counter-Tre 01-21-2007 01:02 AM

If we keep Archuletta...
 
...what would you do with him? If you were Greg Williams, how would you utilize this guy?

GTripp0012 01-21-2007 01:46 AM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
Give him a chance to earn his starting job back. If he can't then you cut him loose.

SWFlaSkinsFan 01-21-2007 04:54 AM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
This goes for every one on Defense, not just Arch ... determine each individual's strengths and weaknesses (football coaching 101!), and then
[B]RE-EVALUATE YOUR SCHEMES TO BEST UTILIZE EACH PLAYERS'S STRENGTHS[/B] ... Gee, what a novel idea !!
Watcha' think, Greg ... maybe this could work ??!!

Of course, it helps to have reasonably healthy secondary, but Archuletta's strength is as a physical, "7th or 8th man in the box" kind of "monster back".
So why not think "outside the box" Greg, and create a defensive scheme that utilizes Arch's strength ... who knows, you could even come up with some catchy number reference, like your mentor Buddy Ryan did in Chicago with the '46' Defense. You wanted this kid real bad last off-season, and you got him. Now, get to work and create a defense that allows him, and others, to play to his strengths and succeed. You're one of the highest paid Defensive Coaches in the game ... start makin' like EF Hutton, and "earn it" !!

#56fanatic 01-21-2007 08:21 AM

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I would definately make GW accountable for bring Arch in here. Its his guy. Hopefully he wont give up on him and let him try to earn his spot back. there is a reason he wanted him here. I would definately use him more to his strength. but I would not try and change his defense completely. The guy had a top 10 D the first two years. He just didn't have the horses this season he has had in the past. I believe giving Arch an offseason to learn and another preseason he can be a valuable player back there with "the man" ST. If they become comfortable with each other, I see them as a great tandum. Like I said, I hope they dont give up on him like they did this season. Especially since they told him and promised to use him a certain way, then kindof backed out of it.

Big C 01-21-2007 10:53 AM

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if we keep archuleta, we need to use him like what williams envisioned him to do when he signed him...blitz, and blitz often. however, this can only work if we have 2 good corners to man mark, so we shall see if he can blitz often

The Huddle 01-21-2007 11:20 AM

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As noted above, there really isn't any use for Arch unless we're able to lock down on the corners. It would be nice if Carols Rogers revered his direction (well down the road to Bustville considering where he was picked).

Daseal 01-21-2007 11:55 AM

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[quote]
This goes for every one on Defense, not just Arch ... determine each individual's strengths and weaknesses (football coaching 101!), and then
RE-EVALUATE YOUR SCHEMES TO BEST UTILIZE EACH PLAYERS'S STRENGTHS ... Gee, what a novel idea !!
Watcha' think, Greg ... maybe this could work ??!![/quote

What do you expect a coordinator to do with a safety that can't ever cover anyone. Doesn't that hurt the position more than anything. No element of surprise from the safety spot at all? Archelletta hasn't done a damn thing since he arrived in DC, and I see nothing that should get him off the bench.

Pocket$ $traight 01-21-2007 11:58 AM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
Invent the cover 3 (er 2 and a half in Archuletta's case)!

Longtimefan 01-21-2007 01:58 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
How many think that Archuletta's decision to chose his own workout regime during the offseason, as opposed to being at Redskin Park set him back in his preperation for the season?

NM Redskin 01-21-2007 02:07 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
Blitz him!!!! Bring him on running downs to stop the run.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 01-21-2007 02:11 PM

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you can't just blitz a player every time you bring him into the game...that takes away all of the surprise factor...that's why his complaining never made sense to me, he had to realize that he'd be in coverage some...this is also why we can't find a place for him

dmek25 01-21-2007 07:33 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
A.A is definitely a better player then matt bowen. i thought bowen had mild sucess while he was here. i still A.A can work here, given the right circumstances

Redskinhog1963 01-21-2007 07:39 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
hold the door for him when he leaves after cleaning out his locker!

freddyg12 01-22-2007 08:42 AM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
Either blitz him, or let him drop into zone coverage in the flats. If he shows some improvement in coverage, let him go 1 on 1 w/tight ends, but if he can't do that, NEVER put him man to man on anybody, including tackle eligible guys. I don't know if AA could cover the Colts' Klecko!

freddyg12 01-22-2007 08:43 AM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;271268]Invent the cover 3 (er 2 and a half in Archuletta's case)![/quote]

cover 3 has been around

gabe1984 01-22-2007 09:03 AM

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I remember when Archuletta was with Ram's he was considered a pretty good safety. He used to have an overall rating in the 90s in Madden Football, that's pretty good. I just don't understand how he can all of a sudden be this horrible, I mean, he doesn't even look like he belongs in the NFL. I dunno, I think if I was Gibbs and Williams, I'd bring him in during the offseason, have a sit down meeting and say something like. Look Adam, we still believe in you, we want you to be a part of this team, but there are certain aspects of your game that you still need to work on. We want to help you get better, stay around here in the offseason, let's put the past behind us and make it work. They need to talk to him figure out why he thinks it didn't work this past season, and help him fix what he needs to work on. Then, if it still doesn't work, I'd let him go.

That Guy 01-22-2007 10:10 AM

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[quote=gabe1984;271437]I remember when Archuletta was with Ram's he was considered a pretty good safety. He used to have an overall rating in the 90s in Madden Football, that's pretty good. I just don't understand how he can all of a sudden be this horrible, I mean, he doesn't even look like he belongs in the NFL. I dunno, I think if I was Gibbs and Williams, I'd bring him in during the offseason, have a sit down meeting and say something like. Look Adam, we still believe in you, we want you to be a part of this team, but there are certain aspects of your game that you still need to work on. We want to help you get better, stay around here in the offseason, let's put the past behind us and make it work. They need to talk to him figure out why he thinks it didn't work this past season, and help him fix what he needs to work on. Then, if it still doesn't work, I'd let him go.[/quote]

either the staff hates him or he hit the wall. it happens.

firstdown 01-22-2007 10:57 AM

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AA did come out and sadi something to the effect of that the big contract distracted his play and but allot of preasure on him. I think Carter said about the same thing but he let that go and just went out and played the last 5 or 6 games of the year and did improve. Maybe being benched and another year in the system he will start to live up to his contract. I think our D as a whole started thinking to much last year and did not just go out and play. They just never had that play that got them rolling.

The Huddle 01-22-2007 11:09 AM

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[quote=Longtimefan;271283]How many think that Archuletta's decision to chose his own workout regime during the offseason, as opposed to being at Redskin Park set him back in his preperation for the season?[/quote]

Not me. I think this idea that you have to be at Redskin Park in the offseason is a crock. Most of the guys made it, and we were 5-11. Hard to make a case that it's a big deal with results like that.

Monkeydad 01-22-2007 04:06 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
We should use him exactly how I use him on Madden.

Make him the nickel back and blitz him every time he's on the field. It works very well [SIZE="1"]on Madden[/SIZE].

:)

gabe1984 01-22-2007 04:21 PM

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[quote=Buster;271641]We should use him exactly how I use him on Madden.

Make him the nickel back and blitz him every time he's on the field. It works very well [SIZE=1]on Madden[/SIZE].

:)[/quote]
I agree. He lead the league in sacks in my season on Madden. Maybe GW should consult us on the proper way to use AA.

Monkeydad 01-22-2007 04:36 PM

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[quote=gabe1984;271649]I agree. He lead the league in sacks in my season on Madden. Maybe GW should consult us on the proper way to use AA.[/quote]

Yep, I just finished a 13-2-1 (yes, a tie) season on Madden.

Campbell at QB.
Portis healthy. Betts backup. Duckett every 3rd down.
Sean Taylor missed the first 5 games of the season (preseason injury) ARGH.
Prioleau at SS...Arch at nickel back.
Springs got hurt for a couple of games (Rumph replaced)

I'm about to start the playoffs. :)

GTripp0012 01-22-2007 08:23 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
[quote=gabe1984;271437]I remember when Archuletta was with Ram's he was considered a pretty good safety. He used to have an overall rating in the 90s in Madden Football, that's pretty good. I just don't understand how he can all of a sudden be this horrible, I mean, he doesn't even look like he belongs in the NFL. I dunno, I think if I was Gibbs and Williams, I'd bring him in during the offseason, have a sit down meeting and say something like. Look Adam, we still believe in you, we want you to be a part of this team, but there are certain aspects of your game that you still need to work on. We want to help you get better, stay around here in the offseason, let's put the past behind us and make it work. They need to talk to him figure out why he thinks it didn't work this past season, and help him fix what he needs to work on. Then, if it still doesn't work, I'd let him go.[/quote]I think the best guess is that he had an injury that affected his ability to play the game. I mean with Brunell in 2004 when he clearly played the worst year of his career (he didn't even complete 50%), it was later disclosed that he was playing badly hurt and he ended up winning his starting job back a year later. I don't see why this couldn't be the situation with Archuleta. He even hinted at an injury a few times in various interviews. It may be more serious than hes giving it credit for. Screw his contract, if he comes back next season, let him compete for the starting job. If his injury is chronic, cut him.

That Guy 01-23-2007 12:20 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
if he wasn't hurt, he hit the wall, or he was being horrible misused on purpose.

maybe he could help our linebacker depth? i'm really not sure he'll ever be very good at safety here.

mlmpetert 01-23-2007 01:11 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
id like to see what he can do as a mlb - a mix between Urlacker and Zach Thomas

That Guy 01-23-2007 06:35 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
[quote=mlmpetert;271898]id like to see what he can do as a mlb - a mix between Urlacker and Zach Thomas[/quote]

really doubt that. he's way to small and not nearly as good in coverage. he might be a decent starter (but nowhere close to a HoFer). he'd probably play better than holdman right off the bat though.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 01-23-2007 06:42 PM

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holdman plays outside linebacker

SantanaMan 02-13-2007 04:35 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
Apologies if this has already been posted (from KFFL) ...

[B]Bears | Archuleta an option?[/B]
Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:09:02 -0800
John Mullin, of the Chicago Tribune, reports should the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl">[COLOR=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/COLOR] decide to part ways with S [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Adam Archuleta[/COLOR][/URL] this offseason, the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/COLOR][/URL] might express interest in the veteran safety. Last offseason, the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Redskins[/COLOR][/URL] outbid the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bears[/COLOR][/URL] for the services of Archuleta, who played under [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bears[/COLOR][/URL] head coach [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/8316/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Lovie Smith[/COLOR][/URL] while Smith was still a member of the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/34/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]St. Louis Rams[/COLOR][/URL] coaching staff. A new rule allows Archuleta to hit the market at the outset of free agency and the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Redskins[/COLOR][/URL] will likely release him in early March.

CrazyCanuck 02-13-2007 05:01 PM

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Mr. Snyder should buy him a plasma TV so he can watch the games at home. Let his wife patrol the sidelines instead.

Carnage 02-13-2007 05:37 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
[QUOTE=Buster;271641]We should use him exactly how I use him on Madden.

Make him the nickel back and blitz him every time he's on the field. It works very well [SIZE="1"]on Madden[/SIZE].

:)[/QUOTE]

It is way too easy and effective blitzing DBs in Madden. My nickel back always goes to the probowl with like 12 sacks.

70Chip 02-13-2007 06:19 PM

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[quote=Carnage;277186]It is way too easy and effective blitzing DBs in Madden. My nickel back always goes to the probowl with like 12 sacks.[/quote]

Nickel Normal Under Smoke.

wbecker999 02-13-2007 10:14 PM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
We need to go a 3-4 defense put arch in as a blitzing linebacker
that will also help our lack of D-line pressure

Dirtbag59 02-14-2007 12:23 AM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
[quote=SantanaMan;277172]Apologies if this has already been posted (from KFFL) ...

[B]Bears | Archuleta an option?[/B]
Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:09:02 -0800
John Mullin, of the Chicago Tribune, reports should the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl">[COLOR=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/COLOR] decide to part ways with S [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Adam Archuleta[/COLOR][/URL] this offseason, the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/COLOR][/URL] might express interest in the veteran safety. Last offseason, the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Redskins[/COLOR][/URL] outbid the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bears[/COLOR][/URL] for the services of Archuleta, who played under [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bears[/COLOR][/URL] head coach [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/8316/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Lovie Smith[/COLOR][/URL] while Smith was still a member of the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/34/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]St. Louis Rams[/COLOR][/URL] coaching staff. A[B] new rule[/B] allows Archuleta to hit the market at the outset of free agency and the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Redskins[/COLOR][/URL] will likely release him in early March.[/quote]

Whats this new rule?

That Guy 02-14-2007 06:03 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;277270]Whats this new rule?[/quote]

you're allowed to release two players early and have their cap hit handled as if they were released june 1st. It's good for the players, since they can be on the market when the money is still there.

skinsfan69 02-14-2007 06:06 AM

Re: If we keep Archuletta...
 
[quote=Longtimefan;271283]How many think that Archuletta's decision to chose his own workout regime during the offseason, as opposed to being at Redskin Park set him back in his preperation for the season?[/quote]

It did not set him back at all. AA can work out at the Park, on his own or he can work out on the moon. It does not matter cause he can't cover anybody. Classic case of a guy getting a bunch of hype becasue he has this crazy workout regimen. WHO GIVES A DAMN. The bottom line is can you play football? The Rams didn't think so and we learned the hard way. Now it looks like we are stuck with the most expensive punt protection guy in the history of the NFL.

skinsfan69 02-14-2007 06:09 AM

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[quote=wbecker999;277217]We need to go a 3-4 defense put arch in as a blitzing linebacker
that will also help our lack of D-line pressure[/quote]

How in the world are we going to play a 3-4 w/ our personel? Not gonna happen.

skinsfan69 02-14-2007 06:15 AM

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[quote=firstdown;271461]AA did come out and sadi something to the effect of that the big contract distracted his play and but allot of preasure on him. I think Carter said about the same thing but he let that go and just went out and played the last 5 or 6 games of the year and did improve. Maybe being benched and another year in the system he will start to live up to his contract. I think our D as a whole started thinking to much last year and did not just go out and play. They just never had that play that got them rolling.[/quote]

Too much pressure? I think these guys are making excuses. Carter may have rushed the passer a little better but he still could not hold up on the run. If I rememer correctly the Giants had in 75 year old Bob Whitfield and he manhandled Carter the last game of the year while Tiki ran wild. If you ask me we should bring in a DE that can play run downs for Carter. He's just not strong enough to be an everydown 4-3 end.

dmek25 02-14-2007 07:20 AM

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[quote=That Guy;277287]you're allowed to release two players early and have their cap hit handled as if they were released june 1st. It's good for the players, since they can be on the market when the money is still there.[/quote]
does this rule strictly benefit the players? or is there something that benefits the team as well?

vaoutlaws2006 02-14-2007 07:44 AM

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Cut him loose period. He doesnt have the coverage skills or the speed that GW's scheme needs from his position. I think in a 40 yard dash i could beat his slow ass.

MTK 02-14-2007 09:12 AM

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I'm locking this, no need for 2 Arch threads going at the same time.


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