Irvin no longer with ESPN
 

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Thank God!! I think he failed a drug test.

Or he quit so he could start partying again, now that he has gotten himself into the HOF. A$$HOLE!!

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Oh well. One less Cowboy that we are forced to listen to.

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If Michael Irvin or Troy Aikman (especially) weren't Cowboys at one point, most of us would enjoy them as commentators. As Gman and I were talking about, he said that Irvin said too many dumb things, which is true. But for the most part, he wasn't the worst announcer.

On the other hand, I think Aikman is pretty damn good.

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[quote=Daseal;278334]If Michael Irvin or Troy Aikman (especially) weren't Cowboys at one point, most of us would enjoy them as commentators. As Gman and I were talking about, he said that Irvin said too many dumb things, which is true. But for the most part, he wasn't the worst announcer.

On the other hand, I think Aikman is pretty damn good.[/quote]

I think Aikman is the next best (after Madden who is an NFL Icon) and Moose is decent. That doesn't mean I won't always dislike them on some level.

As far as Irvin, I consider him a less knowledgable Sean Salisbury. Irvin was great at discussing the game from the player's perspective (especially big games) but I always think that his off the field troubles hung over him. The Romo comment probably sealed the deal on this because him getting into the Hall of Fame would be a huge boost to his credentials.

Irvin will find a job somewhere. I wouldn't say he was bad, he was just a little over the top for me.

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I must say one of the reasons I liked watching all the ESPN pre game shows was becasue of Irvin. I think he's funny as hell and real good on TV. He was the type of player that if he was not on your team you could not stand him. Kind of like B. Mitch. He says some dumb shit but that makes it interesting. He's was a nice change up from Jaws and Jackson. So what if he likes to party. I think it's funny as hell that he goes in hotel rooms and does coke and ecsatsy w/ strippers. It makes good headlines. He's not a role model but not everyone's perfect. Did anyone believe him last year when he got caught with a pipe in his car? Said he was hiding it from a friend? C'mon!

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This is probably the best news I've heard all week.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;278337]I think Aikman is the next best (after Madden who is an NFL Icon) and Moose is decent. That doesn't mean I won't always dislike them on some level.

As far as Irvin, I consider him a less knowledgable Sean Salisbury. Irvin was great at discussing the game from the player's perspective (especially big games) but I always think that his off the field troubles hung over him. The Romo comment probably sealed the deal on this because him getting into the Hall of Fame would be a huge boost to his credentials.

Irvin will find a job somewhere. I wouldn't say he was bad, he was just a little over the top for me.[/QUOTE]

I pretty much agree 100% on this perspective.

As far as Aikman, I love the guy. I think he is easily the best color guy in the booth right now.

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Much as I hate to admit it, I'm going to miss the "Playmaker". Hated him when he played cause D. Green could not cover him! He got my respect when he picked up the mic. He was the main reason I watched NFL Primetime! With that said, I hope he continues to fight the demons that plagued him for so long.

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i never liked irvin, hated him as a player (because he was the enemy) hated him as an analyst (because he sucked at it)

hated aikman as a player (because he was the enemy) like him as an analyst (because he is actualy good at it)

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Irvin was terrible!!!! He reminded me of this guy D-Bomb I used to see at the bar who was a cowboys fan and would always argue with me.

Aikman on the other hand is the best booth announcer in years. Seriously, who can come close to him right now?

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[QUOTE=Daseal;278334]If Michael Irvin or Troy Aikman (especially) weren't Cowboys at one point, most of us would enjoy them as commentators. As Gman and I were talking about, he said that Irvin said too many dumb things, which is true. But for the most part, he wasn't the worst announcer.

On the other hand, I think Aikman is pretty damn good.[/QUOTE]

Aikman does a good job. Irvin is a total hack and I don't think there are many people who would disagree. He is completely biased often and rarely shows a good grasp of the intricacies of the game. All he knows is how to make stupid comments and talk to TO. There's a reason no one argues with him on ESPN. Because you can't win an argument with a moron. Good riddance.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;278334]If Michael Irvin or Troy Aikman (especially) weren't Cowboys at one point, most of us would enjoy them as commentators. As Gman and I were talking about, he said that Irvin said too many dumb things, which is true. But for the most part, he wasn't the worst announcer.

On the other hand, I think Aikman is pretty damn good.[/QUOTE]

The only thing Aikman and Irvin have in common was the cowboys. Aikman works hard and is a pretty good announcer. Irvin just spouts...he lacks the inteligence for a serious debate or discussion on the air so he just screams over top of everyone he's working with. He's awful...

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I guess he got what he wanted, HOF, and is ready to move on. Good riddance.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;278334]If Michael Irvin or Troy Aikman (especially) weren't Cowboys at one point, most of us would enjoy them as commentators. As Gman and I were talking about, he said that Irvin said too many dumb things, which is true. But for the most part, he wasn't the worst announcer.

On the other hand, I think Aikman is pretty damn good.[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with you about Aikman. I think he has made a very good analyst for Fox. Out of all the analysts that have came to fox in the last few years, I think Aikman is one of the best. Of course I still dislike him because he was a Cowboy, but I'd rather have him calling games than Maas or Baldwinger.

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Didn't really care one way or the other about Irvin when he played. He was TO before TO came into the league minus the media aired insults to teammates and coaches. I do think he is one of the most overrated players of the last ten years and in no way is he better than Monk. As far as a commentator if you heard him once or twice you knew what his stance would be on most issues and that is why he wore thin.
Aikman is a good color guy (one of the few, I mean Simms' Spotlight? who is his target audience, 10 year olds who have never heard of the NFL?)
Moose is probably the worst and not because he used to block for Emmit Smith but because he thinks he still has to kiss up to Norv Turner, Jerry Jones or anyone with a star on their helmet! Jimmy Johnson doesn't bend over backwards to kiss Dallas butt like Darryl Johnston.

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TAFKAS any insider info on why he is no longer with ESPN?

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Good, glad they caned his butt! Now him and TO can have plenty of time to spend together. Bring on TUNA FISH to take the spot of DOPE HEAD. Get rid of one EX COWGIRL bring on the next. The TUNA you can at least understand, good move ESPN.

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[quote=skinsfan69;278339]I must say one of the reasons I liked watching all the ESPN pre game shows was becasue of Irvin. I think he's funny as hell and real good on TV. He was the type of player that if he was not on your team you could not stand him. Kind of like B. Mitch. He says some dumb shit but that makes it interesting. He's was a nice change up from Jaws and Jackson. So what if he likes to party. I think it's funny as hell that he goes in hotel rooms and does coke and ecsatsy w/ strippers. It makes good headlines. He's not a role model but not everyone's perfect. Did anyone believe him last year when he got caught with a pipe in his car? Said he was hiding it from a friend? C'mon![/quote]


why am I not surprised that you would find that funny?

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In a stunning twist, Art Monk will replace him!





just kidding...

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[quote=SkinEmAll;278380]why am I not surprised that you would find that funny?[/quote]

It's funny becasue I go back and forth w/ my Cowboy friends. They tease me about Dexter so I give it back to them about Irvin.

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[quote=hooskins;278378]TAFKAS any insider info on why he is no longer with ESPN?[/quote]
Irvins contract was up and ESPN chose not to resign him. I think it had a lot to do with the comments he made about Tony Romo's ethnicity on the Dan patrick show way back on Nov. 20.

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[quote=Crat92;278399]Irvins contract was up and ESPN chose not to resign him. I think it had a lot to do with the comments he made about Tony Romo's ethnicity on the Dan patrick show way back on Nov. 20.[/quote]

And you are sure this is the reason because.....?

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[QUOTE=hooskins;278378]TAFKAS any insider info on why he is no longer with ESPN?[/QUOTE]

I was in Daytona the past few days so no, not really. I do know that his contract was up and they were looking to make some changes. I'll ask the NFL guys on Tuesday when I go back to work.

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I'm actually upset about this because I've always enjoyed Michael Irvin as a commentator. I think the Sunday NFL Countdown crew was great when it was Irvin, Young, Boomer, and TJ.

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Actually, this creates a problem for Dan Patrick. Who will step up to fill in the large block of ass-kissin' time vacated by Michael Irvin

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I thought Irvin was OK. Funny at times. Though I hated how he and TO had that ridiculous unspoken bond.

I like Aikman a lot. I can't stand Moose as a commentator; for one thing he's way too negative. He puts guys down left and right. For every positive thing he says about somebody, there are 10 negative things. He's the Captain Bringdown of any football game. Plus he raises his voice a lot and it just seems shrill and annoying.

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I liked Irvin primarily because he was different, and he was real. He was always appeared to be enjoying himself, laughing and slapping around with the guys. I liked that, it became more of a conversation with four knowledgeable football guys and Sean Salisbury rather than the same old stale pregame show. I'll miss his energy.

Once I found out the HOF announcements would be made the same weekend as the Super Bowl was being held in Miami, I actually joked with my brother that Michael Irvin might not make it to work on Sunday. If I was in my hometown, and I just found out that I made it to the Super Bowl, and all my "U" brothers were in town to enjoy the SB. I mean even I got flyers about all the parties that were going on down in Miami for SB week, plus the added perspective of having been there in '99, and I knew it was going to be trouble for Irvin.

Jacked up will never be the same to me...

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I am not surprised at all. This is pure speculation on my part, but did anyone see Irvin on the remote set in Miami during Superbowl week. His speech was faster than usual, his mood was elevated (more than usual), he was more intrusive than usual, cutting off others who were talking, and he looked like someone who was coked up. I remember thinking that he looked high at the time. I think that is why he was not re-signed. Of course, this is my own opinion.

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[quote=B.F. SKINner;278424]I am not surprised at all. This is pure speculation on my part, but did anyone see Irvin on the remote set in Miami during Superbowl week. His speech was faster than usual, his mood was elevated (more than usual), he was more intrusive than usual, cutting off others who were talking, and he looked like someone who was coked up. I remember thinking that he looked high at the time. I think that is why he was not re-signed. Of course, this is my own opinion.[/quote]

This is one of the funniest posts that I have ever read.

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Maybe he'll be in rehab with Britney, for about 30 minutes, and shave his head

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Anyone who says they liked Irvin in any way needs to move on to a Cowboy website and chat with them. (they find a pipe in his car and he says he took it up from a friend) come on!!! Plus him before Art Monk is a shamable insult.

Yall probably were silver and blue panties under your bugandy and gold!

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[quote=TAFKAS;278402]I was in Daytona the past few days so no, not really. I do know that his contract was up and they were looking to make some changes. I'll ask the NFL guys on Tuesday when I go back to work.[/quote]

Thanks.

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Irvin was a worse hire than Rush Limbaugh. I'm glad that poor excuse for a human being has been fired. Good riddance!

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[quote=B.F. SKINner;278424]I am not surprised at all. This is pure speculation on my part, but did anyone see Irvin on the remote set in Miami during Superbowl week. His speech was faster than usual, his mood was elevated (more than usual), he was more intrusive than usual, cutting off others who were talking, and he looked like someone who was coked up. I remember thinking that he looked high at the time. I think that is why he was not re-signed. Of course, this is my own opinion.[/quote]

Of course he was coked up. He's back in Miami during SB week??????????????? I bet he and many other players got loose all week long.

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[quote]Anyone who says they liked Irvin in any way needs to move on to a Cowboy website and chat with them. (they find a pipe in his car and he says he took it up from a friend) come on!!! Plus him before Art Monk is a shamable insult.

Yall probably were silver and blue panties under your bugandy and gold![/quote]
This is what's wrong with many fan sites today. Just because someone is a Cowboy you hate them. While I hate the Cowboys as an organization, and when you put that uniform on you're most likely my sworn enemy, that doesn't mean you can't look at things objectively. First of all, I believe there are announcers that are much worse for Irvin. Thank god not everyone interviews like Joe "Tells ya nothing" Gibbs. You need guys like this to make interviews interesting. He brings a players perspective to the game, which I like.

Love him or hate him, there's no denying that Irvin was a good player. If you can't see that, you're blind.

If I remember correctly, Irvin said if anyone should be in the Hall of Fame before him it's Art Monk. It's just stupid to blame a player for being voted into the hall of fame. He doesn't cast a vote.

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[quote=memphisskin;278423]I liked Irvin primarily because he was different, and he was real. He was always appeared to be enjoying himself, laughing and slapping around with the guys. .[/quote]



dude..............he was always coked up. all he ever did was laugh real loud and spout off at the mouth real loud.

every person who listened to him is more stupid for having done so, i award him no points and may god have mercy on his soul.

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[quote=wolfeskins;278545]dude..............he was always coked up. all he ever did was laugh real loud and spout off at the mouth real loud.

[B]every person who listened to him is more stupid for having done so, i award him no points and may god have mercy on his soul[/B].[/quote]


AMEN! **** "White Lines" Irvin...what a dick off.....I cant really STAND any cowboy in a commentary booth but, IRVIN SUCKED! Aikman is cool though. He's probably the best color commentator around at this point, next to Sam Huff and Jurgensen on Redskin Radio of course! lolol

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[quote=wolfeskins;278545]dude..............he was always coked up. all he ever did was laugh real loud and spout off at the mouth real loud.

every person who listened to him is more stupid for having done so, i award him no points and may god have mercy on his soul.[/quote]


Your comments really make no sense. I have been a Redskin fan since the George Allen days. I really enjoyed Irvin and he was one of the main reasons I tuned into the ESPN shows. He's funny as hell and you need a guy who mixes things up a bit. You need a guy who is funny and says off the wall crap. I like Jaws and he played for the Eagles and I hate the Eagles more than the Cowboys.

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Irvin's biggest strength was his likeability with other players allowing him access to locker rooms and interviews that others may not have gotten.