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SmootSmack 02-27-2007 11:30 PM

Redskins And Pucillo Agree to a New Deal
 
"The team has reached an agreement on a one-year contract worth the veteran minimum of $595,000 with reserve offensive lineman Mike Pucillo. Pucillo, 27, signed with the Redskins as a free agent from Houston last year and played all three line positions, but spent most of his time as a tackle eligible in the Redskins' run-heavy formations and goal-line formations."

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022702135_2.html]Gibbs Showing He's 'Willing to Change' - washingtonpost.com[/url]

70Chip 02-27-2007 11:34 PM

Re: Redskins And Pucillo Agree to a New Deal
 
This is great news. The tackle eligible play, as we all know, is the future of red-zone offense in the NFL.

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-27-2007 11:34 PM

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would love to see a similar thread for derrick dockery in the next couple of days

Redskins_P 02-27-2007 11:36 PM

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;281168]would love to see a similar thread for derrick dockery in the next couple of days[/QUOTE]

Amen!

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 02-28-2007 12:02 AM

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its good to see people are wanting to come back...come on Sean and Derrick

Daseal 02-28-2007 12:29 AM

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Wow, got him for vet. min.? That's truly awesome.

JGisLordOfTheRings 02-28-2007 12:32 AM

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Right. Glad were starting off right. Tomorrow I'm expecting a thread like this for Dock. Make it up if you have to TAFKAS, I just wanna see it. :-)

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-28-2007 01:18 AM

Re: Redskins And Pucillo Agree to a New Deal
 
Why would an agent ever agree to a one-year, vet-minimum deal before the start of free agency? The only reason I can possibly can come up with is that the Redskins said something to the effect that, "This offer is good until Friday at midnight, after which point we will not re-sign you under any conditions."

JGisLordOfTheRings 02-28-2007 01:24 AM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;281203]Why would an agent ever agree to a one-year, vet-minimum deal before the start of free agency? The only reason I can possibly can come up with is that the Redskins said something to the effect that, "This offer is good until Friday at midnight, after which point we will not re-sign you under any conditions."[/quote]


Hahahah...I was thinkin along those lines but, then the alcohol grabbed my brain and slammed it into the dirt of "Dont ask Because you dont wanna know"

MTK 02-28-2007 11:03 AM

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His agent probably told him look, you're probably going to get very little interest on the open market if any... so let's get it over with and re-sign with the Skins and save yourself the embarrassment of being the last kid in gym class that gets picked for kickball.

GTripp0012 02-28-2007 11:09 AM

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This is the best news I've heard all day.

Hopefully he doesnt have to start for us, but if he does--at least we know things could be worse.

freddyg12 02-28-2007 12:43 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;281344]His agent probably told him look, you're probably going to get very little interest on the open market if any... so let's get it over with and re-sign with the Skins and save yourself the embarrassment of being the last kid in gym class that gets picked for kickball.[/quote]

yeah, I think good agents would do that as they should know the mkt. That's our problem w/Dock, his agent knows there's only a few guys he's competing with in FA & most teams have lots of $$. Peter King is predicting the top 2 guards, Steinbach & Dielman I believe, are looking for S. Hutchinson $, 7mil /yr w/15 bonus if I remember correctly.

wilsowilso 02-28-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Redskins And Pucillo Agree to a New Deal
 
[quote=freddyg12;281391]yeah, I think good agents would do that as they should know the mkt. That's our problem w/Dock, his agent knows there's only a few guys he's competing with in FA & most teams have lots of $$. Peter King is predicting the top 2 guards, Steinbach & Dielman I believe, are looking for S. Hutchinson $, 7mil /yr w/15 bonus if I remember correctly.[/quote]

No way they will get close to Hutchinson money IMO. Hutchinson outclasses the guard field and was a special case. Those other guards might be looking for that kind of payday, but they won't get it. I honestly think the guard position might be the easiest position in the NFL. I'm not saying the elite ones don't deserve mucho money, but if Derrick Dockery thinks he is going to get some massive 30 million dollar contract he is crazy.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-28-2007 12:59 PM

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;281397]No way they will get close to Hutchinson money IMO. Hutchinson outclasses the guard field and was a special case. Those other guards might be looking for that kind of payday, but they won't get it. I honestly think the guard position might be the easiest position in the NFL. I'm not saying the elite ones don't deserve mucho money, but if Derrick Dockery thinks he is going to get some massive 30 million dollar contract he is crazy.[/QUOTE]

I actually think we are going to see ridiculous deals being struck. As noted previously, teams have more cap space to spend on fewer quality free agents since the start of free agency. Whereas in the past, a lot of teams couldn't engage in bidding wars over top-notch FAs due to cap considerations, now there are going to be numerous bidders on the good FAs. The bidding wars might get ridiculous, with teams front-loading deals to use their current cap space and limit the impact of big signings on future cap figures.

hesscl34 02-28-2007 01:20 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;281168]would love to see a similar thread for derrick dockery in the next couple of days[/quote]
NO KIDDING!

JoeRedskin 02-28-2007 01:52 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;281401]I actually think we are going to see ridiculous deals being struck. As noted previously, teams have more cap space to spend on fewer quality free agents since the start of free agency. Whereas in the past, a lot of teams couldn't engage in bidding wars over top-notch FAs due to cap considerations, now there are going to be numerous bidders on the good FAs. The bidding wars might get ridiculous, with teams front-loading deals to use their current cap space and limit the impact of big signings on future cap figures.[/QUOTE]

True. And things won't improve next year b/c the cap is scheduled for a significant increase.

GTripp0012 02-28-2007 01:55 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;281431]True. And things won't improve next year b/c the cap is scheduled for a significant increase.[/quote]It's going to be pretty hard for the FA market to deliver us anything next year.

Our investments this year must be ones that put the team in good hands for the future.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-28-2007 01:57 PM

Re: Redskins And Pucillo Agree to a New Deal
 
[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;281431]True. And things won't improve next year b/c the cap is scheduled for a significant increase.[/QUOTE]

True, but at some point the market is going to catch up to the cap increases and you won't see an abundance of teams with $30M in space.

JoeRedskin 02-28-2007 02:34 PM

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Yes, it will, but probably not until 2009.

sportscurmudgeon 02-28-2007 03:09 PM

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Be still my fluttering heart; this is the contract agreement that will put it all over the top and assure playoff glory next year. Anyone know when they will hold the parade?

Why did Pucillo agree to a minimum contract prior to free agency? Simple. If he didn't sign here, who else would want to waste the time and effort to negotiate with him for anything more than the veterans' minimum? That would be Nobody and No one. If he didn't sign here, he would not have gotten a better deal anywhere else and may have gotten no deal at all anywhere else.

Please, everyone remember the caliber of player who just signed for the veterans' minimum so that the next time there is a player of some repute who might be available we don't hear a hundred suggestions that the Skins sign him for "the veterans' minimum". Those deals are reserved for players who:

A. Have yet to show that they can do anything beyond putting on their jockstrap in the correct orientation or

B. For guys so far over the hill that they should have retired long enough ago to be eligible for Hall of Fame consideration.

This deal does not amount to a pinch of possum sh*t

TheMalcolmConnection 02-28-2007 03:11 PM

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I bet his Madden rating is lower than Albright's!

GTripp0012 02-28-2007 03:24 PM

Re: Redskins And Pucillo Agree to a New Deal
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;281511]Be still my fluttering heart; this is the contract agreement that will put it all over the top and assure playoff glory next year. Anyone know when they will hold the parade?

Why did Pucillo agree to a minimum contract prior to free agency? Simple. If he didn't sign here, who else would want to waste the time and effort to negotiate with him for anything more than the veterans' minimum? That would be Nobody and No one. If he didn't sign here, he would not have gotten a better deal anywhere else and may have gotten no deal at all anywhere else.

Please, everyone remember the caliber of player who just signed for the veterans' minimum so that the next time there is a player of some repute who might be available we don't hear a hundred suggestions that the Skins sign him for "the veterans' minimum". Those deals are reserved for players who:

A. Have yet to show that they can do anything beyond putting on their jockstrap in the correct orientation or

B. For guys so far over the hill that they should have retired long enough ago to be eligible for Hall of Fame consideration.

This deal does not amount to a pinch of possum sh*t[/quote]Taking the vet min offer shows that Pucillo thinks theres no demand for his services.

He's right.

But that doesn't make him a bad player.


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