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RMSkins 03-04-2007 12:29 AM

Lions interested in Springs
 
[B]NOTEBOOK:[/B] The Lions have shown interest Washington cornerback [B]Shawn Springs[/B], who could be traded or released. But Millen said he liked what he had in Fernando Bryant, Stanley Wilson, [B]Keith Smith[/B] and [B]Dee McCann[/B]. "It's not like we're void of talent," Millen said. ...

according to: [URL]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070303/SPORTS01/703030338/1049/SPORTS[/URL]


This is interesting, and the first time I have heard anything like this.

EternalEnigma21 03-04-2007 01:08 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
we need to keep him... we wont find a better value at corner otherwise...

JGisLordOfTheRings 03-04-2007 03:28 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
No shit. I'll admit he's pretty old and oft banged up but, who the F else do we have back there? WE NEED HIM.

djnemo65 03-04-2007 03:40 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
I had heard they were trying to acquire Springs as part of the Bly trade. I'm guessing with that wrapped up Springs will be staying in Washington for next season.

Smurf85 03-04-2007 03:52 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
Yeah i posted this over at another Redskins site tonight.I live in Michigan a hour away from Detroit and the word around here.Is the Lions want Detroit if they can find a way to pick him up.I am sure they would rather have us cut him.Lets hope we just keep Springs i mean i am happy about getting Smoot.That does not mean i would be happy going into next season.With Smoot and Rogers as our starters.Springs,Smoot and Rogers sound a lot better to me.

skinsfan_nn 03-04-2007 04:05 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[quote=djnemo65;283779]I had heard they were trying to acquire Springs as part of the Bly trade. I'm guessing with that wrapped up Springs will be staying in Washington for next season.[/quote]

I would not be banking on that one. I would also like to have Springs back if he can play?

However, they want him to take a pay cut and rework his deal? Not so sure we'll have his services next year.

dmek25 03-04-2007 07:00 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
hello. springs is our best corner, by a mile. our defense was horrible last season. so getting rid of your best cover corner just doesnt make sense

Luxorreb 03-04-2007 07:04 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
Springs is getting paid BIG money to be a Redskin this season. Only way he wouldn't be in DC would be HUGE trade (not gonna happen) or retirement (not gonna happen). Springs gonna make something around 8.3 million this season I heard (check it!). End of story.

skinsfan_nn 03-04-2007 09:27 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[quote=Luxorreb;283813]Springs is getting paid BIG money to be a Redskin this season. Only way he wouldn't be in DC would be HUGE trade (not gonna happen) or retirement (not gonna happen). Springs gonna make something around 8.3 million this season I heard (check it!). End of story.[/quote]

Not even close.

Springs Salary for 07 = 4.8 mil, OBonuses= 2.4 mil
Springs Cap for 07 = 7.3 mil
Springs Release fee for 07= 7.3 mil

Pocket$ $traight 03-04-2007 09:43 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[quote=Luxorreb;283813]Springs is getting paid BIG money to be a Redskin this season. Only way he wouldn't be in DC would be HUGE trade (not gonna happen) or retirement (not gonna happen). Springs gonna make something around 8.3 million this season I heard (check it!). End of story.[/quote]

"Big Money" is what Clements is getting paid. I would argue that Springs, when healthy, is as good as Clements. If they let him go there is nobody on the market who can cover the other team's #1 as well as Springs.

Twilbert07 03-04-2007 09:57 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;283835]"Big Money" is what Clements is getting paid. I would argue that Springs, when healthy, is as good as Clements. If they let him go there is nobody on the market who can cover the other team's #1 as well as Springs.[/QUOTE]

Good point. I just wonder whether Springs will be healthy all next season. My bet is that he plays 10 games at most.

werichill 03-04-2007 10:06 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
Listening to the interviews last year it sounded like Springs didn't think he'd be back.I agree ten games is about all we'll get,but he's worth the money.

Longtimefan 03-04-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
Considering Spring's injury problems (he's been injured every season since he's been here) he shouldn't be so stubborn about restructering his contract. Many others have restructered for the good of the team, and I can't figure out what makes him any different.

That Guy 03-04-2007 12:58 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[quote=RMSkins;283767]"It's not like we're void of talent," Millen said.[/quote]

that's the first time i've heard that too ;).

MTK 03-04-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
A corner crew of Springs, Rogers, and Smoot is a good start. I don't see how we could afford to lose Springs now that Bly went to Denver. Let's just hope the guy can get healthy. A 100% healthy Springs could help turn this D around in a real hurry.

Pocket$ $traight 03-04-2007 01:15 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
Detroit better look elsewhere. Springs will be back.

SUNRA 03-04-2007 01:27 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
I thought Coach Gibbs was considering moving Springs to Safety? He will seriously have to consider that because Prioleau, Fox and Taylor need one more guy and if Travis Fisher is signed, good bye Rodgers as a starter. Farewell Ade Jimoh.

wolfeskins 03-04-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[quote=Mattyk72;283931]A corner crew of Springs, Rogers, and Smoot is a good start. I don't see how we could afford to lose Springs now that Bly went to Denver. Let's just hope the guy can get healthy. A 100% healthy Springs could help turn this D around in a real hurry.[/quote]

i agree. when springs is healthy, he is a top 5 cb.

Pocket$ $traight 03-04-2007 01:36 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[quote=SUNRA;283938]I thought Coach Gibbs was considering moving Springs to Safety? He will seriously have to consider that because Prioleau, Fox and Taylor need one more guy and if Travis Fisher is signed, good bye Rodgers as a starter. Farewell Ade Jimoh.[/quote]


Goodbye Rogers? Even if Fisher is signed he is the 4th corner.

SUNRA 03-04-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;283944]Goodbye Rogers? Even if Fisher is signed he is the 4th corner.[/QUOTE]
That's right. Rodgers will not start this year. That position needs depth. I guarantee the Redskins sign two more CB's including Fisher. Wright, Jimoh, and the other bum from San Francisco are out of here. ( Mike Rumph)
Remember Springs still may play as a Safety.

Pocket$ $traight 03-04-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[quote=SUNRA;283951]That's right. Rodgers will not start this year. That position needs depth. I guarantee the Redskins sign two more CB's including Fisher. Wright, Jimoh, and the other bum from San Francisco are out of here. ( Mike Rumph)
Remember Springs still may play as a Safety.[/quote]


I don't buy the Springs as safety yet. He is our best corner so he will be on the other team's best receiver next year, especially if it is his last year here which is very possible.

If Rogers doesn't start it is because Smoot beats him out.

SUNRA 03-04-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
One thing Coach Gibbs does not do is repeat the same mistake with the same player. Springs has suffered from hamstring and groin injuries last year. He's not the same player he was his first year with us with 5 INTs and 5 sacks. I could see him playing the position because he doesn't have the stamina and he has played the position before with the Seahawks and Buckeyes. That's why they considered him for the position.

freddyg12 03-04-2007 02:08 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
Now that Gibbs says not to expect much more in free agency, does anyone know our cap scenario as is? It sounds like we're under the cap w/all of the restuctures we've done & that we can afford to keep Springs at his present salary.

redskin37 03-04-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] Hello fellow skin fans, came across your forum a few weeks ago.Have enjoyed it so much that i've signed up. I look forward to all the interesting info and insight. Some times its been tough being a skins fan in upstate new york for the past 35 years. But wouldn't trade the memories for anything . Thanks again , nice to meet you all. Would love to see springs re work his deal and stay , but save us a little cap space.[/SIZE][/FONT]

GoSkins! 03-04-2007 02:38 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
Welcome to the board redskin37!

freddyg12 03-04-2007 02:40 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
welcome!

That Guy 03-04-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
welcome!

i agree with the whole springs is our best CB, why force him to play safety crowd.

i'd put rogers at #3 (where he belongs) and see how things work out from there.

dmek25 03-04-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
welcome, and springs stays put. but with smoot aboard, gives the skins a better option if he gets hurt again( which is likely)

Longtimefan 03-04-2007 06:51 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
[QUOTE=redskin37;283962][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] Hello fellow skin fans, came across your forum a few weeks ago.Have enjoyed it so much that i've signed up. I look forward to all the interesting info and insight. Some times its been tough being a skins fan in upstate new york for the past 35 years. But wouldn't trade the memories for anything . Thanks again , nice to meet you all. Would love to see springs re work his deal and stay , but save us a little cap space.[/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]



Welcome redskin37. I too would like to see Springs restructure and end the speculation as to whether he stays or goes. Until a definate decision is made on him, we can't get a true guage on the composition of our secondary.

mike340 03-04-2007 08:35 PM

Re: Lions interested in Springs
 
Springs stays at CB. In years prior to last year, he played in most (but not all) games every season. Last year, since they decided he needed surgery shortly before the season, he (automatically) missed a bunch of the season, just due to the missed diagnosis.

After that, especially with the problems that they had with the secondary, they had to get him back in the games. His original injury was reasonably well healed, but I would imagine that he hadn't been able to do the normal work that toughens up the body to be ready to play. As a result, he suffered other injuries after his return.

I noticed that when he was in the game the defense usually played much better, especially after the other players got into the "rhythm" of having him in the game. I feel it was (by far) the most costly injury of the last season.

I would expect him to play his usual 13-14 games during the regular season.


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