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Smurf85 03-04-2007 03:55 AM

Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
Now this is a rumor everyone remember should remember that.This is what was said and here are some links to sites talking about it.I posted this for something to talk about.I doubt its true,but if it is what would all of you think.

[QUOTE]A buddy of mine that works for NFL.com told me to expect Lavar Arrington to sign a vet min contract with incentives with the redskins on monday. He wants to end he carreer in washington[/QUOTE]

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[url=http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191977&page=1&pp=15]EXTREMESKINS.com - Rumor: Arrington to Sign w/ Redskins[/url]

Daseal 03-04-2007 04:00 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
I could see this happening actually.

skinsfan_nn 03-04-2007 04:01 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
I'll believe it when I see it. Sounds awful far fetched after the way he departed.
Unless it's just to retire? The 1 minute contract....

offiss 03-04-2007 05:47 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;283783]I'll believe it when I see it. Sounds awful far fetched after the way he departed.
Unless it's just to retire? The 1 minute contract....[/QUOTE]

Were not talking about Art Monk or Brian Mitchell here, if Lavar wants back he should be paying us.

Luxorreb 03-04-2007 05:50 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
Honestly I don't see how Lavar would come back here. Vet minimum sure, otherwise HELL NO!

JManorGC94 03-04-2007 05:51 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
Another Jersey we could bring out of the closet

budw38 03-04-2007 06:47 AM

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[quote=offiss;283791]Were not talking about Art Monk or Brian Mitchell here, if Lavar wants back he should be paying us.[/quote] I agree , this would almost be as bad as Loyd and AA , lavar was washed up 5 yrs ago , very inconsistant , bad mouthed the organization & J. Gibbs . And what would it do to L Marshall and Rocky ?

Luxorreb 03-04-2007 06:51 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
I'd rather have Arrington as opposed to Lloyd or Archuleta and he'll be basement bargain compared to both of their salaries!

dmek25 03-04-2007 06:56 AM

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[quote=offiss;283791]Were not talking about Art Monk or Brian Mitchell here, if Lavar wants back he should be paying us.[/quote]
he did this once, so. i say no. he left on bad terms. and also said coach gibbs was the worse coach he had ever played for. lavar, go screw your self

Luxorreb 03-04-2007 07:00 AM

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if he came back I could sell my jersey!

Lavar used to be the underarmor stadium size picture on the side of Fed Ex. He made what? like 100+ million from Dan all total? He owes all of us and I'm willing to give him that chance at vet minimum to pay us all back!

vaoutlaws2006 03-04-2007 07:08 AM

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i am on the screw lavar tip too.....gonna disrespect the coach and the whole organization....lavar knows where he can go. does he need directions?

Luxorreb 03-04-2007 07:12 AM

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You think he's burned the bridge?

I don't see it happening (him coming back to DC), but I'd be in favor of him coming here for vet minimum.

Schneed10 03-04-2007 08:40 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
I don't see it happening at all.

That said, for vet minimum, considering where the market is going? I'd take that in a heartbeat.

diehardskin2982 03-04-2007 08:54 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
what is he supposed to sign and immediately retire?
Too Young, I doubt it.... Special teams is the only spot he would play, also i remember when he was cut by the Giants Gibbs said we have no interest in him. If I was him I'd go to the Cardinals

T.O.Killa 03-04-2007 09:08 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
I dont think it would ever happen, but his jersey alone probably paid his salary. I still love him, he was treated real bad by Dale Linsay.

EternalEnigma21 03-04-2007 09:09 AM

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too much of a distraction... we don't need it again and I wouldn't waste a roster spot. we already have players taking up depth that don't need to be here....

gabe1984 03-04-2007 09:43 AM

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You know something, I really think we need to look at this from LaVar's point of view. He was the face of this team for his entire tenure in Washington, except for maybe his last year. I feel bad for the guy, I mean, the coaches just came in and booted him, and let freaking WARRICK HOLDMAN play instead of him! I'm sure he was very upset, and I'm sure there are probably a lot of players who would not be able to bite their tongues when they leave a situation like that. Imgaine if you busted your ass for a company for six years, were known as a key guy in the company, then a new boss comes along, and they just fire you. Would you be able to walk away and just bite your tongue? I know for a fact I wouldn't!!!!!
If he wants to come in for a low price, I'd really like to have him back. This is unlikely, but he's man, he should be able to sit down like a man and have a talk with Gibbs and Williams and so they can tell him exactly what his role will be on the team. If anything, I believe that most of the players would like to have him back, and he'll bring a swagger to our defense that was missing last year.

Pocket$ $traight 03-04-2007 09:50 AM

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[quote=gabe1984;283833]You know something, I really think we need to look at this from LaVar's point of view. He was the face of this team for his entire tenure in Washington, except for maybe his last year. I feel bad for the guy, I mean, the coaches just came in and booted him, and let freaking WARRICK HOLDMAN play instead of him! I'm sure he was very upset, and I'm sure there are probably a lot of players who would not be able to bite their tongues when they leave a situation like that. Imgaine if you busted your ass for a company for six years, were known as a key guy in the company, then a new boss comes along, and they just fire you. Would you be able to walk away and just bite your tongue? I know for a fact I wouldn't!!!!!
If he wants to come in for a low price, I'd really like to have him back. This is unlikely, but he's man, he should be able to sit down like a man and have a talk with Gibbs and Williams and so they can tell him exactly what his role will be on the team. If anything, I believe that most of the players would like to have him back, and he'll bring a swagger to our defense that was missing last year.[/quote]

Swagger? Can he even walk right now?

drew54 03-04-2007 10:03 AM

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I would welcome him back as a DE and Vet min. He was playing DE back in 05 when his knee healed up. He might be worth it. I would love to see it.

wolfeskins 03-04-2007 10:06 AM

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[quote=gabe1984;283833]You know something, I really think we need to look at this from LaVar's point of view. He was the face of this team for his entire tenure in Washington, except for maybe his last year. I feel bad for the guy, I mean, the coaches just came in and booted him, and let freaking WARRICK HOLDMAN play instead of him! I'm sure he was very upset, and I'm sure there are probably a lot of players who would not be able to bite their tongues when they leave a situation like that. Imgaine if you busted your ass for a company for six years, were known as a key guy in the company, then a new boss comes along, and they just fire you. Would you be able to walk away and just bite your tongue? I know for a fact I wouldn't!!!!!
If he wants to come in for a low price, I'd really like to have him back. This is unlikely, but he's man, he should be able to sit down like a man and have a talk with Gibbs and Williams and so they can tell him exactly what his role will be on the team. If anything, I believe that most of the players would like to have him back, and he'll bring a swagger to our defense that was missing last year.[/quote]


well said, i agree with you. the skins could use him to rush the qb on certain situations.

skins009 03-04-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
I am now dumber after reading this thread. I can guarantee you three things about LaVar.
1. He will not be resigning with the Giants
2. He will not be resigning with the Redskins.
3. He will not be resigning with the team that hires Dale Lindsey as their Linbackers coach!

gabe1984 03-04-2007 10:20 AM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;283836]Swagger? Can he even walk right now?[/quote]

good one grim, you're really clever

GiantsSuck703 03-04-2007 10:22 AM

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[quote=dmek25;283809]he did this once, so. i say no. he left on bad terms. and also said coach gibbs was the worse coach he had ever played for. lavar, go screw your self[/quote]

Im not being sarcastic here, When did he say Joe Gibbs was the worst coach he ever played for? I remember him saying Joe Gibbs was in the trinity as far as coaches are concerned and if Joe Gibbs had wanted Lavar to stay in DC he would have been there. I mean Dale Lindsay said some pretty bad things about Lavar while he was there, so dont blame it all on Lavar.

GiantsSuck703 03-04-2007 10:23 AM

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[quote=skins009;283843]I am now dumber after reading this thread. I can guarantee you three things about LaVar.
1. He will not be resigning with the Giants
2. He will not be resigning with the Redskins.
3. He will not be resigning with the team that hires Dale Lindsey as their Linbackers coach![/quote]

Although I agree with you, thats basically the same thing alot of people said about Fred Smoot

wolfeskins 03-04-2007 10:29 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
[quote=skins009;283843]I am now dumber after reading this thread. I can guarantee you three things about LaVar.
1. He will not be resigning with the Giants
2. He will not be resigning with the Redskins.
3. He will not be resigning with the team that hires Dale Lindsey as their Linbackers coach![/quote]


i don't think anyone has said they think lavar will resign with the skins. what they've said is, they would not be apposed to it.
i'm not sure how thats making you dumber but best wishes to you, i hope you fell better soon.

holcknowsbest 03-04-2007 10:42 AM

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i welcome ol lavar back. i hope this is true and you cant tell me if he is on the team and starting at weakside backer! ol fed ex will be absolutely on fire. i love lavar and i think we did do him wrong but he cant hold that against us either....thats how you kiss and make up let bygones be bygones.

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-04-2007 11:03 AM

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I dont think that is a very reliable source. I dont expect much from this one. If he comes back it is only to retire.

Schneed10 03-04-2007 11:09 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
[quote=skins009;283843]I am now dumber after reading this thread. I can guarantee you three things about LaVar.
1. He will not be resigning with the Giants
2. He will not be resigning with the Redskins.
3. He will not be resigning with the team that hires Dale Lindsey as their Linbackers coach![/quote]

I think you're overstating your case by quite a bit. I don't think Lavar will come back here either, but I definitely don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.

Dale Lindsay was canned, so that tells you that Gibbs, and maybe GW too, didn't like his style. That tells me that Gibbs may not have been thrilled with the way Lindsay handled Lavar, which tells me that Gibbs' door could possibly be cracked slightly when it comes to welcoming Lavar back.

Secondly, you're acting like Lavar Arrington has options. I don't think he can dictate who he'll sign with. His achilles is devastated right now, and if he were a prominent free agent in the minds of GMs around the league, I think we would have heard of him meeting with some teams by now. I think Lavar's options are limited. So if he isn't going to get paid well, from his standpoint, why not go back and play in the town where he still maintains his permanent residence. Why not go back and play for the fan base that will still embrace him.

He's an emotional guy, he often can't control his emotions. He's likely a wreck emotionally right now, having to deal with his injury, and with no team coming knocking at his door in this crazy market, his emotions might be running high, and he might be thinking a homecoming would feel great. He's gotten three big paydays in his career already, his rookie deal with the Skins was a big one, then he signed that big extension with us, and then he got paid by the Giants. Same thing happened with Smoot, they both got paid already, and things didn't work out. They've got their money, now maybe it's time to just go back to their comfort zone.

And if it's vet minimum, what does the team have to lose? There's no signing bonus involved, meaning no cap ramifications. We could cut him in training camp and be no worse for the wear.

I still find this all very unlikely, but to insinuate that it's not even worth discussing is wrong.

Longtimefan 03-04-2007 11:14 AM

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What is he going to do if he did come back? I can't see any place for LaVar, it would appear we're ready to move on. The only difference between LaVar, Elvis, and Kennedy is that he's not dead yet, this guy just continues to surface.

JoeRedskin 03-04-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
[QUOTE=GiantsSuck703;283845]Im not being sarcastic here, When did he say Joe Gibbs was the worst coach he ever played for? I remember him saying Joe Gibbs was in the trinity as far as coaches are concerned and if Joe Gibbs had wanted Lavar to stay in DC he would have been there. I mean Dale Lindsay said some pretty bad things about Lavar while he was there, so dont blame it all on Lavar.[/QUOTE]

It was in an interview which was subsequently televised on ESPN. And there was no mucking about or he meant this or that. I saw the interview, the question was direct and so was the answer:

Q: "Who is the worst coach you ever played for?"
A: "Joe Gibbs"

There was no follow up, or additional "if, ands, or buts". You could even see that reporter was somewhat shocked by the answer.

LaVar aint coming back.

dmek25 03-04-2007 11:33 AM

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thanks joe. i just didnt get a chance to respond. there was no mincing words. he flat out called out our coach.

XXVI 03-04-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
George Michael had him on his show after last preseason/start of regular season. Riggins asked him what the difference in schemes was in NY as opposed to the one here in DC, and he said... and I quote...

"At least in NY they have a scheme" and smirked.

Fag.


GW is you're daddy Lavar. Go eat a dick.

skins009 03-04-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;283869]I think you're overstating your case by quite a bit. I don't think Lavar will come back here either, but I definitely don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.

Dale Lindsay was canned, so that tells you that Gibbs, and maybe GW too, didn't like his style. That tells me that Gibbs may not have been thrilled with the way Lindsay handled Lavar, which tells me that Gibbs' door could possibly be cracked slightly when it comes to welcoming Lavar back.

Secondly, you're acting like Lavar Arrington has options. I don't think he can dictate who he'll sign with. His achilles is devastated right now, and if he were a prominent free agent in the minds of GMs around the league, I think we would have heard of him meeting with some teams by now. I think Lavar's options are limited. So if he isn't going to get paid well, from his standpoint, why not go back and play in the town where he still maintains his permanent residence. Why not go back and play for the fan base that will still embrace him.

He's an emotional guy, he often can't control his emotions. He's likely a wreck emotionally right now, having to deal with his injury, and with no team coming knocking at his door in this crazy market, his emotions might be running high, and he might be thinking a homecoming would feel great. He's gotten three big paydays in his career already, his rookie deal with the Skins was a big one, then he signed that big extension with us, and then he got paid by the Giants. Same thing happened with Smoot, they both got paid already, and things didn't work out. They've got their money, now maybe it's time to just go back to their comfort zone.

And if it's vet minimum, what does the team have to lose? There's no signing bonus involved, meaning no cap ramifications. We could cut him in training camp and be no worse for the wear.

I still find this all very unlikely, but to insinuate that it's not even worth discussing is wrong.[/QUOTE]


You make some good points, however you are underestimating the chemisty factor. LaVar would be terrible for chemistry. Plus where is he gonna play?? With the signing of Fletcher we now have good depth at linebacker. Is Lavar gonna play special teams?? Is Lavar gonna keep his mouth shut?? All reasons why they will not bring him back, not even for the vetern minimum!

RMSkins 03-04-2007 12:09 PM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
This would be a horrible move unless it was for him to retire. We already have Washington at SLB, Fletcher at MLB, and Marshall and Mcintosh fighting at WLB, where in the world is he going to fit in 3rd string WLB?

Longtimefan 03-04-2007 12:23 PM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
[QUOTE=holcknowsbest;283852]i welcome ol lavar back. i hope this is true and you cant tell me if he is on the team and starting at weakside backer! ol fed ex will be absolutely on fire. i love lavar and i think we did do him wrong but he cant hold that against us either....thats how you kiss and make up let bygones be bygones.[/QUOTE]



I think that's just what the Redskins intend to do where LaVar is concerned, they're going to "let bygones be bygones. I don't see how even he could expect to come back to a team where he has called it's coach the worst coach he has ever played for. Yes!! He said it, and I have the tape of the interview where he said it, and I hope Joe Gibbs has it too. If he dosen't, and they just "THINK" of bringing that guy back here, I will send it to him.

saden1 03-04-2007 12:39 PM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
Wow, such hostility towards LaVar. Some in here are acting like he dumped them on prom night.

A man should be able to express how he feels. LaVar, unfortunately, cut off his nose to spite his face. If the coaching staff at Redskins park are willing to forgive him and patch things up, I can see him coming back.

That Guy 03-04-2007 12:54 PM

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i'd be skeptical of this at best. at vet min he would be worth a flyer though, since, if he's a distraction, he could be cut easily.

PorterHouse 03-04-2007 01:03 PM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
%$#@ that he had a chance to stay and went to a division rival. I say you made your bed now lie in it. We loved you when you were here and all you wanted to do was leave so now retire somewhere else.

MTK 03-04-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
What does this guy even have left realistically?

If he does come back I hope he comes back humble as all hell.

I loved LaVar when he was here but his final days here left a bad taste in my mouth. I know it wasn't all his fault but he wasn't an innocent party either.

freddyg12 03-04-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Crazy Lavar Rumor!
 
1) Lavar was playing strong side in NY. maybe he's accepted that as his position at this point. He could back up Washington, who needs to be spelled some as he plays every snap.
2) Lindsey is gone, who knows how much the coaches blame Dale L.?
3) Most Important: this rumor is almost certainly not coming to fruition unless Lavar FIRES THE POSTONS! The Danny hates those guys & I believe the rift started when Lavar sided w/them in the contract dispute.


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