( Merged)Skins Interested in Luke Petitgout
 

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According to PFT the Skins are looking at Petitgout to replace Dock. Which is interesting because Petitgout is a OT, but I doubt the transiton would be to difficult. I personally do not want him unless he comes really cheap.

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Someboby farts and these guys have something new to write about!

I don't have a whole lotta faith in these reports. They would want to make a move on a OT and make him a guard?
Another GIANT REJECT!

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Petitgout was good for the Giants, he just couldn't stay healthy. I wouldn't sign him unless it was for close to vet minimum.

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ill believe it when i see him ink it he is pretty darn good though

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If there was any truth to it, which is quite a stretch considering the source, I'd be fine with Petitgout if the price was right.

If Samuels or Jansen were to go down for a game or two, he'd be OK in a pinch. Let's just hope that never happens.

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I bet he gets a pretty good contract in this market, because he is a pretty solid NFL player. Not sure about the move to guard, but if the price is right then he could be very valuable because he can easily play tackle if someone is hurt or we could move Jansen inside. I just said the same thing as Beemnseven so as you can see that's what I think as well.

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[quote=mooby;284055]Petitgout was good for the Giants, he just couldn't stay healthy. I wouldn't sign him unless it was for close to vet minimum.[/quote]


Mooby - vet minimum is about right in my book - and I would go one step further and say he is brought in not as our guard but as a backup to both tackle spots to provide depth(in case Wade leaves). Then the Skins should go out and get a Holland or use a low round pick on one if need be for the Guard spot.

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[quote=Bill B;284061]Mooby - vet minimum is about right in my book - and I would go one step further and say he is brought in not as our guard but as a backup to both tackle spots to provide depth(in case Wade leaves). Then the Skins should go out and get a Holland or use a low round pick on one if need be for the Guard spot.[/quote]

Denver already signed Holland.

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isnt he a tackle? lets get a guard to play guard. i dont understand everyone wanting to convert players to different positions

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[quote=dmek25;284067]isnt he a tackle? lets get a guard to play guard. i dont understand everyone wanting to convert players to different positions[/quote]

Haven't you heard. Guard is the new tackle in the NFL. It is the most important position on the line and maybe on the entire offense for that matter. The players are going to be in a rush to convert to a new 50 million dollar mansion.

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[quote=dmek25;284067]isnt he a tackle? lets get a guard to play guard. i dont understand everyone wanting to convert players to different positions[/quote]

Petitgout has experience playing guard, but if he comes here he will either end up being solid depth, or competing for the starting LG position.

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He has guard experience.

2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 74 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Petitgout is consistent, durable and experienced. He has some versatility, having played both tackle positions and guard in the NFL. He is tall, rangy and has good first-step quickness. His is smart and has surprisingly good feet for his size. He understands blocking angles and knows how to work defenders. He usually plays in control, rarely overextends and can handle combination moves. He is adept at cut blocking when necessary. He moves laterally with ease and has some natural ability to change directions. He can mirror and slide with most ends and run them past the pocket with his long arms. He is effective on pull and trap blocks and on the second level. His footwork and frame help him close down separation and maintain contact with defenders. But Petitgout lacks ideal power and athleticism. He can get a little upright, and he won't move the pile in the run game. He has some problems against big, strong two-gap linemen. He lacks lower-body explosiveness and isn't a great finisher. He isn't quite quick enough when isolated on the edge.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;284067]isnt he a tackle? lets get a guard to play guard. i dont understand everyone wanting to convert players to different positions[/QUOTE]



Players with that ability are a prescious commodity in the NFL now days, and I know Bugel has always loved for his OL to be interchangable, espically at guard/center & tackle /guard. Having the ability to be versatile along the line enhances longevity in the league.

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he's a solid starter. if the skins don't go to the bank on him, i'd be cool with it.

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[quote=That Guy;284099]he's a solid starter. if the skins don't go to the bank on him, i'd be cool with it.[/quote]


exactly i would like to have him for a reasonable price he's an upgrade over what we have now

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;284119]exactly i would like to have him for a reasonable price he's an upgrade over what we have now[/quote]
If we get Petigout to play guard, he won't be the road grader that Doc was, but he'll probably be better at pulling on counter running plays and at pass blocking. Sign him to a lesser deal, than more power to our front office finally taking a prudent approach to free agency.

This year has been a nice departure from The Danny making every guy he signed in the past among the richest at their positions. I really like the defensive signings so far (Fletcher and Smoot) at a fair value. Add a stud DE in the draft, and this D has a chance to return to top-10 as it was in Gibbs's first two years.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;284119]exactly i would like to have him for a reasonable price he's an upgrade over what we have now[/quote]

well right now, we've got pucillo and a bunch of guys that might not start in NFL europe for depth :/.

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Petitgout's good, but you'd think there would be a more cost friendly option out there.

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Folks, take a deep breath here.

Molinaro resigned with the Skins for the veteran's minimum. That is the kind of player you get for that kind of contract.

Luke Pettitgout is not a future Hall of Fame player by any means; he's a good and serviceable and durable - until he broke his damned leg last year - offensive tackle. Assuming his leg is healing properly and he's not one false step from a wheelchair, he will command a LOT MORE than a veteran minimum salary.

Stinchcomb, Carlisle and Reuben Brown are offensive linemen who are free agents - unless I missed that they have signed on somewhere already. Pettitgout is no better nor worse than any of those guys. And I'd be leery of Reuben Brown because he's got to be at least 35 years old and probably 37.

The choice is a young guy who's never started much in the league or paying more than the vet minimum for one of these kinds of guys.

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SC, I think you're confusing Molinaro with Pucillo

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You're right. Pucillo - - not Molinaro. My error. :benched:

But the point remains. Luke Pettitgout - and those other offensive linemen I mentioned - are going to command more than a vet minimum salary.

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Guard is the easiest position in football. There's a reason that until now they are the lowest paid position players. Ideally we find a way to draft a guy like 3rd round and just stick him in there. Moving down from 6 could do this.

We still need a depth guy though. Someone who can play anywhere on the line at a decent level. I wish Wade were actually an option because he'd be perfect. In fact he is probably too good. He'll be starting somewhere next year I would guess.

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Here's some names to chew on as possible replacements:

Ruben Brown (Bears) - yes he's old but the guy can still play, he would be a good stop gap.

Cosey Coleman (Browns) - a lot of starting experience but not very mobile or quick.

Zach Piller (Titans) - has some injury concerns but he's a quality run blocker.

Rick DeMulling (Lions) - athletic lineman, excels at pulling and trapping, not very stout in the running game, lacks awareness.

Chris Villarrial (Bills) - probably on his last legs as a starter but he's got good size, strength, and experience.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;284067]isnt he a tackle? lets get a guard to play guard. i dont understand everyone wanting to convert players to different positions[/QUOTE]

Remember Raliegh McKenzie? He could play any position on the line. In the Age of Injuries, you have to have a guy like that.

It's not out of the question to ask an offensive lineman, especially one of Petitgout's experience to shuffle around some.

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Petitgout went to high school about twenty miles from me. He has maintained his southern DE roots despite his moderate success in the league. If the Redskins can sign him, I'd be delighted.

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Update from JLC

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

"Petitgout is in the building, there for a free agent visit. Former left tackle for the Giants would be moved to guard to replace Dockery should he sign. Had some knee problems but the word is he passed Tampa's physical over the weekend. Also, he recently dropped his old agents and hired, you guessed it, Drew Rosenhaus, which never hurts when it comes to The Snyder."

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Interesting, if healthy he's an upgrade over Dockery.

2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 74 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Petitgout is consistent, durable and experienced. He has some versatility, having played both tackle positions and guard in the NFL. He is tall, rangy and has good first-step quickness. His is smart and has surprisingly good feet for his size. He understands blocking angles and knows how to work defenders. He usually plays in control, rarely overextends and can handle combination moves. He is adept at cut blocking when necessary. He moves laterally with ease and has some natural ability to change directions. He can mirror and slide with most ends and run them past the pocket with his long arms. He is effective on pull and trap blocks and on the second level. His footwork and frame help him close down separation and maintain contact with defenders. But Petitgout lacks ideal power and athleticism. He can get a little upright, and he won't move the pile in the run game. He has some problems against big, strong two-gap linemen. He lacks lower-body explosiveness and isn't a great finisher. He isn't quite quick enough when isolated on the edge.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;284537]Update from JLC

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

"Petitgout is in the building, there for a free agent visit. Former left tackle for the Giants would be moved to guard to replace Dockery should he sign. Had some knee problems but the word is he passed Tampa's physical over the weekend. Also, he recently dropped his old agents and hired, you guessed it, Drew Rosenhaus, which never hurts when it comes to The Snyder."[/QUOTE]

With Rosenhaus being his agent, I wouldn't be surprised if Pettigout was signed by the end of the day.....

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[quote=SmootSmack;284537]Update from JLC

[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider[/URL]

"Petitgout is in the building, there for a free agent visit. Former left tackle for the Giants would be moved to guard to replace Dockery should he sign. Had some knee problems but the word is he passed Tampa's physical over the weekend. Also, he recently dropped his old agents and hired, you guessed it, Drew Rosenhaus, which never hurts when it comes to The Snyder."[/quote]

I'm assuming this would be a stop-gap move ONLY. Even so, I feel that this year out of all years, we are in a STRONG position to trade down to fill TWO areas of need with elite players. We could get a GREAT DT/DE or DE/OG or any combination you want of the two.

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I'm trying, but I just can't get too pumped about Petitgout.

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Maybe this is what we need, someone who is much cheaper than Davis

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[quote=BrudLee;284532]Petitgout went to high school about twenty miles from me. He has maintained his southern DE roots despite his moderate success in the league. If the Redskins can sign him, I'd be delighted.[/quote]

Ah, a Sussex County native? I did not know. That automatically increases my interest in him, seriously.

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[QUOTE=Twilbert07;284553]Ah, a Sussex County native? I did not know. That automatically increases my interest in him, seriously.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Tony. He went to Sussex Central, but I didn't follow high school football at the time. I don't remember him setting the world ablaze, but tackles rarely do.

Stories abound of visits he's made to Dewey Beach, at least once with Shockey in tow.

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redskins.com reports:

Petitgout Visits Redskins Park
By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
March 5, 2007



Free agent offensive lineman Luke Petitgout visited Redskins Park on Monday.
Petitgout has played his entire 8-year NFL career with the New York Giants. He has mostly played left tackle throughout his time with the Giants.

In 1999, Petitgout's rookie season, he started eight games at left guard. A year later, he moved to right tackle, where he started all 16 games.

In 2001, Petitgout moved to left tackle, a position he has occupied through last season.

If signed by the Redskins, the 6-6, 310-pounder could be slotted to take over the left guard position. Derrick Dockery, last year's starter, signed with the Buffalo Bills last Friday.

Petitgout could also serve as a backup at either tackle positions along the offensive line.

Petitgout was slowed by back problems in 2003, but otherwise has been durable and consistent with the Giants. He has missed just 15 games in his career, started 106-of-113 games.

Last season, Petitgout started nine games at left tackle, then suffered a fractured fibula that sidelined him for the remainder of the season.

Petitgout, who grew up in Milford, Del., played his college ball at Notre Dame. He was the Giants' first-round draft pick (19th overall) in the 1999 NFL Draft.

If HEALTHY? he might be a good fit?

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If healthy he'd be a great pickup. I love the fact he can play guard and tackle.

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Sounds alot better than going into the draft with a gaping hole in the OL.

I still think trading down and getting a pair of lineman is the best bet, regardless of if we get LP. With our caliber coaches I think it's a pretty damn good investment.

Also, What kind of trade bait is Betts at the moment? From what I hear we backed out of the Vilma trade, so what are our other options?

I'm not trying to dump him, I'm just curious to how juicy the pickups could potentially be from trading our backup running back.

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[quote=Mattyk72;284573]If healthy he'd be a great pickup. I love the fact he can play guard and tackle.[/quote]


That's a HUGE PLUS. This thing has potential.

Wonder what kinda JACK he's lookin for?

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[QUOTE=Twilbert07;284546]I'm trying, but I just can't get too pumped about Petitgout.[/QUOTE]

I hear you, but if the price is right, he'd be a real gem of a free agent pickup. Could be one of the more underrated acquisitions this season. OL depth is something we needed, and he'd fill that role perfectly.

I thought he'd been around longer than eight years -- turns out he was drafted in the same class as Jansen.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;284574]Also, What kind of trade bait is Betts at the moment? From what I hear we backed out of the Vilma trade, so what are our other options?

I'm not trying to dump him, I'm just curious to how juicy the pickups could potentially be from trading our backup running back.[/QUOTE]

I'm a card-carrying member of the Trade Ladell Betts If The Deal Is Sweet Enough club - in my mind, I just can't imagine sitting on him with all the gaping holes we still have on defense.

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[quote=Beemnseven;284580]I'm a card-carrying member of the Trade Ladell Betts If The Deal Is Sweet Enough club - in my mind, I just can't imagine sitting on him with all the gaping holes we still have on defense.[/quote]
I just feel like there are teams out there that would be willing to give up an awfull lot for him. The man had 1,000 yds on 6 starts.

I have no problem holding on to him if we don't get offered anything that crazy, I just have a feeling that by draft time someone will realize they want Betts real bad.