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12thMan 03-09-2007 01:42 PM

Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
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skinsfan69 03-09-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
I don't get what the Colts are thinking. How do you let this guy walk?

MTK 03-09-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
At least it wasn't the Giants, I really thought they would have scooped him up.

Hog1 03-09-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
Dominic, I've got good news and bad news! Got you a great deal! It's with....................

ArtMonkDrillz 03-09-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;286350]At least it wasn't the Giants, I really thought they would have scooped him up.[/QUOTE]You're right about that. I don't think Rhodes is all that great by himself, but coupled with Jacobs hes could have been a real headache.

I wonder what that transition is going to be like for him. It would be like trading in your tricked out Escalade for a '91 Geo Storm. I hope it's worth that extra spending money for him.

BangCartoon 03-09-2007 02:11 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
Jeez, after winning the Super Bowl, he goes to Oakland to die behind that thing they call a line.
That's like getting out of Eva Longoria's bed and jumping into Courtney Love's.

Ugh

~Bang

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2007 02:13 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
Except Courtney catches more things than the Oakland receivers! ZING.

RedskinPete 03-09-2007 02:16 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
All I hear out here on the west coast is thre Raiders signed DUI Roads and he will fit right in!

BDBohnzie 03-09-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
Indy lets him walk because Addai is better and they can probably grab a backup for cheaper than resigining Rhodes.

So Rhodes is going to split time with Lamont Jordan...hopefully it keeps Jordan healthy as they ride to the basement of the AFC West.

skinsguy 03-09-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;286363]Except Courtney catches more things than the Oakland receivers! ZING.[/QUOTE]

Ouch!!! The truth hurts sometimes!

BangCartoon 03-09-2007 02:46 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;286363]Except Courtney catches more things than the Oakland receivers! ZING.[/quote]

:lol: Classic!

~Bang

redskin37 03-09-2007 02:54 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
Wonder if this means the end of the road for Lamont Jordan in Oakland.


I think he was productive considering there offensive line is terrible.

MonkFan4Life 03-09-2007 02:54 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;286363]Except Courtney catches more things than the Oakland receivers! ZING.[/quote]

You have to throw the Andrew Dice Clay OHHHH in there afterwards !

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2007 03:00 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
Little Boy Blew. Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, he needed the money!

Seriously, to stay on task, this is strikingly similar to when Hutch went to Minnesota. Worked out GREAT for him. :doh:

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2007 03:01 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
If I'm Oakland, I'm landing a veteran QB, maybe Rattay, taking Joe Thomas with the first overall pick, make some trades and get Grubbs or Blaylock. Just look what the Jets did with shrewd picks on the offensive line last year. Mangold and Ferguson both paid dividends for them.

dmek25 03-09-2007 03:05 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
i think indy might be alot like denver. no matter what running back they use, it works. a system back, if you will

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2007 03:07 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
Peyton Manning is a system within himself. You're ALWAYS respecting the pass so many times the back has huge holes to run through.

GTripp0012 03-09-2007 03:24 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;286384]If I'm Oakland, I'm landing a veteran QB, maybe Rattay, taking Joe Thomas with the first overall pick, make some trades and get Grubbs or Blaylock. Just look what the Jets did with shrewd picks on the offensive line last year. Mangold and Ferguson both paid dividends for them.[/quote]I like the way you think, but Oakland already tried that approach. What they got was one of the biggest busts in draft history. I thought they were going to take Roethlisberger at No. 2 in 2004, they took Gallery--and the rest is history. The franchise has been in shambles ever since Gannon tore his labrum in 2003 and it's got something to do with never having a QB more talented than Aaron Brooks on the roster. This team SHOULD have already taken a QB in the first round and just can't ignore the future of that position anymore.

I think Quinn is far superior, but even if they go with Russell, they will be far better off in the long run than by selecting at any other postion; as good as I think Joe Thomas can be.

GTripp0012 03-09-2007 03:26 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;286390]Peyton Manning is a system within himself. You're ALWAYS respecting the pass so many times the back has huge holes to run through.[/quote]And he calls the running plays at the line. With the way he understands offense, its not surprising that they give their talented backs in the best possible chance to succeed as often as they do.

GTripp0012 03-09-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=skinsfan69;286348]I don't get what the Colts are thinking. How do you let this guy walk?[/quote]If you aren't going to utilize his kick returning ability (as the Colts didn't last year), hes really not worth the money. Guys who run the ball like Rhodes are everywhere. If Oakland has him return kicks, this is a solid signing for them. If they aren't, they would have been better off making Fargas the starter there.

BDBohnzie 03-09-2007 03:29 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[QUOTE=redskin37;286380]Wonder if this means the end of the road for Lamont Jordan in Oakland.


I think he was productive considering there offensive line is terrible.[/QUOTE]
Jordan just reworked his contract at the beginning of the week. I imagine them splitting time like Rhodes did with Addai this past year in Indy.

That Guy 03-09-2007 03:38 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
well, at long as he doesn't want to win, he picked the right place.

dall-assblows 03-09-2007 03:40 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
might as well hand the SB trophy to the raiders now, eh?

RMSkins 03-09-2007 03:45 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
Giants fans are really upset that all these free agents they're targeting are signing other places. It's hilarious.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2007 03:51 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
It's OK, they'll still find some way to make their pieces of shit looking like Pro Bowlers when they play us.

12thMan 03-09-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;286418]It's OK, they'll still find some way to make their pieces of shit looking like Pro Bowlers when they play us.[/quote]


No shit.

dmek25 03-09-2007 04:13 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=That Guy;286409]well, at long as he doesn't want to win, he picked the right place.[/quote]
you know the saying, show me the money

skinsfan69 03-09-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=GTripp0012;286401]If you aren't going to utilize his kick returning ability (as the Colts didn't last year), hes really not worth the money. Guys who run the ball like Rhodes are everywhere. If Oakland has him return kicks, this is a solid signing for them. If they aren't, they would have been better off making Fargas the starter there.[/quote]

I don't know about that. Rhodes knows the Colts system and always performed when called upon. I doubt you an just throw in any RB and do what Rhodes has done. He's not a great player but he's damn good. In today's NFL you need two guys. But I'm sure they have a plan. Polian knows what he's doing.

skinsfan69 03-09-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=GTripp0012;286397]I like the way you think, but Oakland already tried that approach. What they got was one of the biggest busts in draft history. I thought they were going to take Roethlisberger at No. 2 in 2004, they took Gallery--and the rest is history. The franchise has been in shambles ever since Gannon tore his labrum in 2003 and it's got something to do with never having a QB more talented than Aaron Brooks on the roster. This team SHOULD have already taken a QB in the first round and just can't ignore the future of that position anymore.

I think Quinn is far superior, but even if they go with Russell, they will be far better off in the long run than by selecting at any other postion; as good as I think Joe Thomas can be.[/quote]

You think Brady Quinn is superior over Russell? Really???? Not sure if you saw any LSU games or not but I don't think there is a QB in this draft that comes close to this guy's ability. He makes throws that very few guys can maake on the NFL level neverless the college level. His weight concerns me but that's about it.

Beemnseven 03-09-2007 08:18 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;286493]I don't know about that. Rhodes knows the Colts system and always performed when called upon. I doubt you an just throw in any RB and do what Rhodes has done. He's not a great player but he's damn good. In today's NFL you need two guys. But I'm sure they have a plan. Polian knows what he's doing.[/QUOTE]

Didn't everyone say the same thing about Edgerrin James?

Any average running back could wind up looking like a superstar in Indy.

GTripp0012 03-09-2007 09:27 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=skinsfan69;286495]You think Brady Quinn is superior over Russell? Really???? Not sure if you saw any LSU games or not but I don't think there is a QB in this draft that comes close to this guy's ability. He makes throws that very few guys can maake on the NFL level neverless the college level. His weight concerns me but that's about it.[/quote]I'm guessing you probably haven't seen much Quinn.

I don't know what "ability" you are talking about though. Does Russell have all the physical tools? No one is questioning his unbelieveable arm strength, but does that give him an advantage over Quinn? I'm not sure an ability to throw the ball 75+ yards will ever have practical purpose in an NFL game considering it would take receviers 8-10 seconds to run that far.

Russell throws exceptionally well on the run, but he lacks general mobility. In the NFL, he's going to have to be a prototypical pocket passer.

Playing QB is all about the mind (assuming that the QB doesnt have a damning physical limitation). Players with crappy physical skills are among the greatest QBs ever (think Marino). Based on his college production, Russell's mind for the game exceeds the level of nearly all draft-eligible quarterbacks. But does anyone think he understands the position better than Quinn? That's crazy talk.

The only physical limitation between the QBs is probably Russell's mobility. They are both great prospects, but I have no reason to assume Russell will be better.

skinsfan69 03-09-2007 10:02 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=GTripp0012;286537]I'm guessing you probably haven't seen much Quinn.

I don't know what "ability" you are talking about though. Does Russell have all the physical tools? No one is questioning his unbelieveable arm strength, but does that give him an advantage over Quinn? I'm not sure an ability to throw the ball 75+ yards will ever have practical purpose in an NFL game considering it would take receviers 8-10 seconds to run that far.

Russell throws exceptionally well on the run, but he lacks general mobility. In the NFL, he's going to have to be a prototypical pocket passer.

Playing QB is all about the mind (assuming that the QB doesnt have a damning physical limitation). Players with crappy physical skills are among the greatest QBs ever (think Marino). Based on his college production, Russell's mind for the game exceeds the level of nearly all draft-eligible quarterbacks. But does anyone think he understands the position better than Quinn? That's crazy talk.

The only physical limitation between the QBs is probably Russell's mobility. They are both great prospects, but I have no reason to assume Russell will be better.[/quote]

I watch alot of college ball. I saw Brady Quinn every week for two years. He's not the most accurate guy around. I honestly think Quinn get's a lot of hype cause he's from ND. Don't get me wrong, he's really good. He benefits from a passing offense. But I don't think he's any better than Troy Smith, Chris Leak or Kevin Kolb. Smith had just as good a year if not better. He got better once Weiss came to South Bend. I would say Quinn has had the better coaching of anyone. But Russell is just a freak. Quicker release, better arm, more accurate. Plus he's very mobile for his size. He just has not had Quinn's coaching. When he get's to Oak, and if Sarkeshain can work on his footwork, and if the Raiders can straighten out Moss and Porter, look out. Of course that's a lot of if's.

And Marino had great physical skills. Great feet, cannon arm and the best release of all time. That's almost all you need to play QB.

That Guy 03-09-2007 11:51 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=skinsfan69;286555]I watch alot of college ball. I saw Brady Quinn every week for two years. He's not the most accurate guy around. I honestly think Quinn get's a lot of hype cause he's from ND. Don't get me wrong, he's really good. He benefits from a passing offense. But I don't think he's any better than Troy Smith, Chris Leak or Kevin Kolb. Smith had just as good a year if not better. He got better once Weiss came to South Bend. I would say Quinn has had the better coaching of anyone. But Russell is just a freak. Quicker release, better arm, more accurate. Plus he's very mobile for his size. He just has not had Quinn's coaching. When he get's to Oak, and if Sarkeshain can work on his footwork, and if the Raiders can straighten out Moss and Porter, look out. Of course that's a lot of if's.

And Marino had great physical skills. Great feet, cannon arm and the best release of all time. That's almost all you need to play QB.[/quote]

he's better than chris leak? on what planet?

Crat92 03-10-2007 02:21 AM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=That Guy;286583]he's not any better than chris leak? on what planet?[/quote]
So what are you saying?

That Guy 03-10-2007 02:25 AM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=Crat92;286591]So what are you saying?[/quote]

oops, my bad. meant to imply chris leak really sucks (remove the not any).

skinsfan69 03-10-2007 12:28 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=That Guy;286592]oops, my bad. meant to imply chris leak really sucks (remove the not any).[/quote]

How can a QB start at Florida for four years, play in two different offenses, play in the toughest conference in college, win a national champ. and suck? C'mon. That's just ridicules. You must have went to Tennessee.

Smurf85 03-10-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=skinsfan69;286348]I don't get what the Colts are thinking. How do you let this guy walk?[/quote]


They let James go last year and he's a better back.Yet they still won a super bowl.This is the Colts they can throw any RB in there.Thats what happens when you have Peyton Manning.

Crat92 03-10-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
I think Rhodes is and always has been a good RB. I hope the Raiders can fix their O-line woes. If they do, DR could have a break out year!

That Guy 03-10-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=skinsfan69;286642]How can a QB start at Florida for four years, play in two different offenses, play in the toughest conference in college, win a national champ. and suck? C'mon. That's just ridicules. You must have went to Tennessee.[/quote]

his own fans didn't like him till he won. he's just not very good, and that's why he's rated as a 2nd day pick. If you don't like that, i'm sorry, but that's reality. You must have gone to florida.

skinsfan69 03-10-2007 05:47 PM

Re: Dominic Rhodes to Oakland Raiders
 
[quote=That Guy;286670]his own fans didn't like him till he won. he's just not very good, and that's why he's rated as a 2nd day pick. If you don't like that, i'm sorry, but that's reality. You must have gone to florida.[/quote]

His own fans don't like him cause they have no clue. All the guy did was win. There are PLENTY of good QB's that have been 2nd day picks. If he was 6'4 he would be a 1st day pick.


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