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GoSkins! 03-12-2007 07:05 PM

Are the Skins hiding something?
 
Over the last few days it doesn't seem like much has been happening at Redskins park. No DB signed (even the Fisher thing is dying out), no DT, no OG (we haven't even brougth in Mulitalo). Even the talks about Bly seem to have stopped. The Skins seem content at all these positions even though we, the fans, don't.

After thinking about all these things the past few days I am becoming convinced that the Skins have a deal in place with the Broncos and the Texans for a draft day trade. If this is the case, all teams would have to keep quiet to minimize the chance of another team finding out and trying to trade ahead and aquire a targeted player. Different senarios would set things up better for a trade with one, or the other, or both teams. It also explains why the skins are content to watch quality free agents go on to other teams. Every day that goes by where we have no starting OG makes me believe more firmly that the Skins are hiding something.

We all know the trade senarios by now, the question is who else believes the skins already have a deal...

RedskinPete 03-12-2007 07:15 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[QUOTE=GoSkins!;287217]Over the last few days it doesn't seem like much has been happening at Redskins park. No DB signed (even the Fisher thing is dying out), no DT, no OG (we haven't even brougth in Mulitalo). Even the talks about Bly seem to have stopped. The Skins seem content at all these positions even though we, the fans, don't.

After thinking about all these things the past few days I am becoming convinced that the Skins have a deal in place with the Broncos and the Texans for a draft day trade. If this is the case, all teams would have to keep quiet to minimize the chance of another team finding out and trying to trade ahead and aquire a targeted player. Different senarios would set things up better for a trade with one, or the other, or both teams. It also explains why the skins are content to watch quality free agents go on to other teams. Every day that goes by where we have no starting OG makes me believe more firmly that the Skins are hiding something.

We all know the trade senarios by now, the question is who else believes the skins already have a deal...[/QUOTE] I hope you are right that there is a plan. I have begone not to believe that FO and Danny S can get us[Redskins] back to the story team that we were in the 80's. It really makes you wish for the Cook days. Bad move after Bad move. For the first time in my life unless something eles picks up in the off season I see this team with little chance of winning next year!

skinsfan_nn 03-12-2007 07:23 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
By George I think you've got it! ya.... We're in the MIDDLE OF SOME KIND OF CONSPRIACY, I WANNA KNOW WHAT'S SHAKIN ???????

ncskinsfanec 03-12-2007 07:33 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=RedskinPete;287223]I hope you are right that there is a plan. I have begone not to believe that FO and Danny S can get us[Redskins] back to the story team that we were in the 80's. It really makes you wish for the Cook days. Bad move after Bad move. For the first time in my life unless something eles picks up in the off season I see this team with little chance of winning next year![/quote]

Man, cheer up and chill out! We haven't even gotten a 1/3 of the way through the offseason yet. I'm as excited about the Skins as I've been in years. We have Joe Gibbs and world of talent on this team, that alone pumps me up! I know this past season was awful, but I would like to think things will be a lot better next season. I like the moves that have been made so far this offseason, and I think the draft will bring us some more talent to help us win.

Crat92 03-12-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
It's a C-O-N-spiracy!

wolfeskins 03-12-2007 09:28 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=GoSkins!;287217]Over the last few days it doesn't seem like much has been happening at Redskins park. No DB signed (even the Fisher thing is dying out), no DT, no OG (we haven't even brougth in Mulitalo). Even the talks about Bly seem to have stopped. The Skins seem content at all these positions even though we, the fans, don't.

After thinking about all these things the past few days I am becoming convinced that the Skins have a deal in place with the Broncos and the Texans for a draft day trade. If this is the case, all teams would have to keep quiet to minimize the chance of another team finding out and trying to trade ahead and aquire a targeted player. Different senarios would set things up better for a trade with one, or the other, or both teams. It also explains why the skins are content to watch quality free agents go on to other teams. Every day that goes by where we have no starting OG makes me believe more firmly that the Skins are hiding something.

We all know the trade senarios by now, the question is who else believes the skins already have a deal...[/quote]


I read somewhere that the skins do in fact have a deal in place wih houston but you definately could be on to something about them having a deal in place with denver. this should be a pretty exciting draft.

dblanch66 03-12-2007 09:36 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
it's buried in the warren commission.

charlielyons 03-12-2007 10:56 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
i believe if quinn is still there at 6 we trade the texans for pics, i think the front office is pretty happy whether they draft alan branch, jamal anderson ,gaines adams or that kid from louisville. 1 or 2 will be avalible at 8 so why not trade down for a extra pic or 2. we might even trade that 8th pic and springs to denver for there 1st rounder and bly and still get another pick. during draft weekend i see us having a quality d-lineman a second and a third round pick as well as bly

charlielyons 03-12-2007 11:00 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
i work at dicks sporting goods and david macklin came in tonight, i didnt know who he was but some people who work for me went to school with him, he said he has a meeting in DC this weekend

SmootSmack 03-12-2007 11:03 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[QUOTE=charlielyons;287295]i work at dicks sporting goods and david macklin came in tonight, i didnt know who he was but some people who work for me went to school with him, he said he has a meeting in DC this weekend[/QUOTE]

I like Macklin, he'd provide good depth. Inerestingly enough, the Broncos were looking at him and I think the Bly trade would have been contigent upon Denver getting Macklin

charlielyons 03-12-2007 11:06 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;287297]I like Macklin, he'd provide good depth. Inerestingly enough, the Broncos were looking at him and I think the Bly trade would have been contigent upon Denver getting Macklin[/quote]
everyone at my store was telling him to come home to washington and they didnt say he acted one way or another..he just kept sayin he had a meeting

Longtimefan 03-13-2007 12:47 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
Regardless of what we do for the remainder of the offseason, there's not going to be many openings for starters on this team. The roster is pretty much set already, that's why despite the fact we need draft picks, this may not be the year we look to add a great deal in the draft. We need to draft an impact player for the D-line which is the only area where a draft pick can become a starter. I'm not in favor of foregoing a potential starter for depth players with no guarentee they will even make the team. Right now, we need a sure thing, someone who can step in and play now because there won't be a lot of new-comers making this team.

GTripp0012 03-13-2007 12:49 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=Longtimefan;287311]Regardless of what we do for the remainder of the offseason, there's not going to be many openings for starters on this team. The roster is pretty much set already, that's why despite the fact we need draft picks, this may not be the year we look to add a great deal in the draft. We need to draft an impact player for the D-line which is the only area where a draft pick can become a starter. I'm not in favor of foregoing a potential starter for depth players with no guarentee they will even make the team. Right now, we need a sure thing, someone who can step in and play now because there won't be a lot of new-comers making this team.[/quote]I agree. We are in prime position to get a guy who will eventually come the face of our defense, and trading that away would not be smart.

People are suggesting that we take a shot at fixing all of our defensive problems in one year. Well, we are No. 32 in defense, so that's just not going to happen. We can rebuild this team by getting QUALITY defensive lineman who are short on weaknesses. There's only a handful of such players in the draft and 6 is a good spot to get one.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-13-2007 08:26 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
But so is 8 or 9 if we can swing that trade. That is NOW my optimal scenario. Trade with whoever wants to in those spots, Okoye should still be available, and use whatever we pick up on a guard. Grubbs or Blaylock.

That Guy 03-13-2007 08:40 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;287346]But so is 8 or 9 if we can swing that trade. That is NOW my optimal scenario. Trade with whoever wants to in those spots, Okoye should still be available, and use whatever we pick up on a guard. Grubbs or Blaylock.[/quote]

moving down two spots isn't going to get us a pick high enough for either of those guards.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-13-2007 08:46 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
I think that unless one or both go in the late first, they'll slip into the second where an early second rounder could get us one of them.

RedskinPete 03-13-2007 08:52 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[QUOTE=ncskinsfanec;287233]Man, cheer up and chill out! We haven't even gotten a 1/3 of the way through the offseason yet. I'm as excited about the Skins as I've been in years. We have Joe Gibbs and world of talent on this team, that alone pumps me up! I know this past season was awful, but I would like to think things will be a lot better next season. I like the moves that have been made so far this offseason, and I think the draft will bring us some more talent to help us win.[/QUOTE] I hope you are right...The one thing that I see that brings hope is J.Campbell. He looks to be the real deal! As for the draft again I hope you are right. Trade down pick up more picks. Leave next years draft alone and don't give it away!

That Guy 03-13-2007 09:15 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;287350]I think that unless one or both go in the late first, they'll slip into the second where an early second rounder could get us one of them.[/quote]

yeah, but where do we get an early second? moving from 6 to 9 doesn't really get us that. b grubbs is probably in the 20s of the first round somewhere.

hurrykaine 03-13-2007 09:20 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
Yea, we're probably in talks to hire Bill Parcells as Senior Associate Head Coach of Defense and Head Chef....that's what's cooking.

JGisLordOfTheRings 03-13-2007 12:59 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=hurrykaine;287360]Yea, we're probably in talks to hire Bill Parcells as Senior Associate Head Coach of Defense and Head Chef....that's what's cooking.[/quote]


hahahaha.....thats great...

Tuna Melts anyone?

TheMalcolmConnection 03-13-2007 01:06 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=That Guy;287358]yeah, but where do we get an early second? moving from 6 to 9 doesn't really get us that. b grubbs is probably in the 20s of the first round somewhere.[/quote]

Early second comes from the hopeful (eventual) deal with a few of the people enamored with Quinn or Peterson. Possibly early second from Houston.

Beemnseven 03-13-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
Isn't it a virtual certainty that Quinn and Peterson will be gone within the first four picks?

That Guy 03-13-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
peterson is more likely to slip than quinn, but no, you have joe thomas, russel, and johnson that could be considered better by any team, meaning at least one will make it to #5 at the very least.

Beemnseven 03-13-2007 04:49 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
Yeah, when you think about it, why would Cleveland pass up on Calvin Johnson?

Isn't he miles apart from Adrian Peterson in terms of potential? Plus, the Browns just got Jamal Lewis.

The more I ponder it, I don't think there's any way CJ falls past the #3 spot.

GMScud 03-13-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=Beemnseven;287541]Yeah, when you think about it, why would Cleveland pass up on Calvin Johnson?

Isn't he miles apart from Adrian Peterson in terms of potential? Plus, the Browns just got Jamal Lewis.

The more I ponder it, I don't think there's any way CJ falls past the #3 spot.[/quote]

I would be hard for Cleveland to pass on a freak like Calvin Johnson, but if Brady Quinn is there.... Plus they so recently drafted Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow Jr. and have no one to get them the ball. When you have Derek Anderson and Charlie Frye as your QB's you have to draft Quinn or Russell. I think CJ goes to the Bucs at #4

Redskins_P 03-14-2007 12:11 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
I doubt Cleveland takes CJ. I think ulimately they'll take a d-lineman.

That Guy 03-14-2007 08:09 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=Redskins_P;287653]I doubt Cleveland takes CJ. I think ulimately they'll take a d-lineman.[/quote]

without a QB though, how far is that really going to get them? I mean, i like frye, but he's a backup.

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-14-2007 10:57 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
Man I gotta tell you guys Grubbs from Auburn would sure replace Doc, actually I think he would be an upgrade over doc. This guy has a motor.

That Guy 03-14-2007 11:02 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;287752]Man I gotta tell you guys Grubbs from Auburn would sure replace Doc, actually I think he would be an upgrade over doc. This guy has a motor.[/quote]

big upgrade over doc... but i don't think we'll be able to get him unless we trade down (to the 20s or so) and decide to wait on the DL until the 2nd round.

Gilligan28 03-14-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
I hope that all this silence is the FO actually thinking and planning their next move instead of signing every tom dick and harry on the market. I hope we trade down to get more picks but not too far down to miss out on drafting Carriker from Nebraska. Plus remember there could be some proven OL talent that gets released on June 1st.

plus just cause we dont have any visitors doesnt mean we arent trying to get guys...maybe they just dont want to visit here

TheMalcolmConnection 03-14-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
I agree little buddy.

I think that any of the DEs will actually be great in their own ways.

That Guy 03-14-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
maybe they know something we don't about june 1st cuts...

Skinsfanmania 03-14-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Are the Skins hiding something?
 
It wouldn't surprise me if we had a 3 way deal in place with Houston and Denver. Either that or a trade with Houston and then a trade with Denver if the player they are targeting is still at #8.

I have it at even money that we don't use the #6 pick in any other way than trading down to acquire more picks and perhaps Dre Bly.


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