SI.com: Portis and Betts #3 RB Tandem in the league
 

"With Portis hampered by injuries last season, Betts emerged as a star, gaining 1,154 yards while averaging 4.7 yards per carry. Portis will be back this year and the Redskins are talking as if they plan to use both extensively."

[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0703/gallery.nfl.top10rb07tandems/content.8.html"]SI.com - Photo Gallery - Top 10 RB Tandems for 2007[/URL]

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Sorry I mistyped #2 when it's actually #3. Can someone edit that for me ?

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I disagree about the Jags and Cowboys. I was shocked to see them in those spots.

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Interesting that you think that about the Jags. Before I read it, my first two teams that popped into my head were the Saints and the Jags. I don't bother considering the co----'s on anything, though.

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Yeah I think Travis Henry and Mike Bell should've been ahead of Jones and Barber. I think Jones and Barber do make a good pair though but I would think that Henry and Bell would have more potential to gain a lot of yards in that Denver system.

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Fred Taylor like TWO years ago, most definitely. Fred Taylor now? Nah. Maybe at the four spot to knock the Cowboys down.

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Isn't there talk of Julius Jones being traded anyway?

Atlanta with Jerius Norwood and Warrick Dunn should be ahead of the Cowchips for crying out loud.

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and why the hell are the panthers even on that list and the giants

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LT and 724Skinsfan should've made that list over Jacobs and Droughns.

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im happy the skins got recognized for something. now lets trade betts before he loses his value :)

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Yes, its good to see a little love every now and again. I certainly don't think Jones/Barber should be on that list and if so maybe towards the latter third. I also thought of Saints and Jags first when I saw the title.

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I would put us at 2 behind the Saints. I absolutely LOVE Maurice Jones Drew (he won me my fantasy football league with his week 16 performance), but Freddy T is old and oft injured, plus neither of those guys are great receivers out of the backfield. But when you think about special teams contributions (Jones-Drew, Betts, Bush), the Skins, Saints, and Jags are def the top three tandems in terms of overall contributions.

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i think most teams would take portis-betts over taylor-jones drew of the jags

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those rankings suck.

LT and a stiff corpse are better than deuce and bush.

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[quote=That Guy;287897]those rankings suck.

LT and a stiff corpse are better than deuce and bush.[/quote]

Oh yeah, how could I forget about Michael Turner and LT?? sheesh. Sports Illustrated couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat. This is the magazine that picked the Panthers to play the Dolphins in the Super Bowl last season. HA!

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[quote=That Guy;287897]those rankings suck.

LT and a stiff corpse are better than deuce and bush.[/quote]

That's basically what I said.

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LT and 724Skinsfan should've made that list over Jacobs and Droughns.
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our tandem is way better than the cowboys and the jets.

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sorry i hit the wrong next button i thought they were ahead of us

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[QUOTE=MonkFan4Life;287853]"With Portis hampered by injuries last season, Betts emerged as a star, gaining 1,154 yards while averaging 4.7 yards per carry. Portis will be back this year and the Redskins are talking as if they plan to use both extensively."

[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0703/gallery.nfl.top10rb07tandems/content.8.html"]SI.com - Photo Gallery - Top 10 RB Tandems for 2007[/URL][/QUOTE]



That's why we have no intention of trading either one. RB, O-Line, and ST were the only parts of the team that worked last year. It would be cruel to upset "all that chemistry"

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[quote=dmek25;287880]im happy the skins got recognized for something. now lets trade betts before he loses his value :)[/quote]
ARE YOU NUTS?????????? Betts is the RB of the future for the Skins... I will bet you cash that Portis won't be with the Skins in 2 seasons.:smashfrea

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[QUOTE=Redskin Rich;287915]ARE YOU NUTS?????????? Betts is the RB of the future for the Skins... I will bet you cash that Portis won't be with the Skins in 2 seasons.:smashfrea[/QUOTE]

I agree, but that's because of Portis's contract and the way the Skins handle that kind of thing. Running back of the future, though? He's older than Clinton.

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I agree with Quake, what ignorant fool puts a team sporting DeShaun Foster and another team sporting Reuben Droughns on that list.

Also how can the clear cut no. 1, Tomlinson and Turner, not be on that list?

A person who thinks the Giants have a better backfield tandem than the Chargers doesnt watch much football.

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[quote=jdlea;287916]I agree, but that's because of Portis's contract and the way the Skins handle that kind of thing. Running back of the future, though? He's older than Clinton.[/quote]
Yes, but Portis has been run to death since he has been in the league... Betts has been allowed to develop and grow.

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[QUOTE=Redskin Rich;287918]Yes, but Portis has been run to death since he has been in the league... Betts has been allowed to develop and grow.[/QUOTE]

If by grow you mean sit because he can't stay healthy, then I agree with you. If Betts is the running back of the future and they don't bring someone else in, they're in trouble.

Not to mention he'll be 30 in 2 years!

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[QUOTE=jdlea;287922]If by grow you mean sit because he can't stay healthy, then I agree with you. If Betts is the running back of the future and they don't bring someone else in, they're in trouble.

Not to mention he'll be 30 in 2 years![/QUOTE]

Sometimes it's not the years as much as it's the mileage.

You're right about Betts though -- he can't be counted on as a 16-game starter. In exchange for a high pick or two, we're hoping some other team falls for that.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;287926]Sometimes it's not the years as much as it's the mileage.

You're right about Betts though -- he can't be counted on as a 16-game starter. In exchange for a high pick or two, we're hoping some other team falls for that.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but still, at 30, it's hard to annoit him. I don't think you wait till a running back turns 30 to make him the #1 guy. On that note, as far as mileage is concerned, he's missed significant time 3 out of his 5 seasons, that's gotta take its toll.

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[QUOTE=jdlea;287928]I agree, but still, at 30, it's hard to annoit him. I don't think you wait till a running back turns 30 to make him the #1 guy. On that note, as far as mileage is concerned, he's missed significant time 3 out of his 5 seasons, that's gotta take its toll.[/QUOTE]

I meant that while Betts is older, Portis has way more mileage.

Either way, Portis will give us a major ground threat for the next two years or so, and Betts gives us a nice follow-up punch.

I still say that if somebody comes along and knocks our socks off with an offer for Betts, we should take it. Guys that can fill Betts' role can be found just about anywhere.

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[quote=jdlea;287922]If by grow you mean sit because he can't stay healthy, then I agree with you. If Betts is the running back of the future and they don't bring someone else in, they're in trouble.

Not to mention he'll be 30 in 2 years![/quote]
Have you ever heard of Tiki Barber... since he didn't play much in his early years, he only got better and better.... just look at his last year. Betts is more of a Redskin style runner and has the potential for years of being a great benefit to us.....

:boxing:

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[quote=Redskin Rich;287915]ARE YOU NUTS?????????? Betts is the RB of the future for the Skins... I will bet you cash that Portis won't be with the Skins in 2 seasons.:smashfrea[/quote]

if portis bounces back strong these next two years then i would think the skins front office would just restructure his contract in order to keep him in a skins uniform.

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[quote=Redskin Rich;287932]Have you ever heard of Tiki Barber... since he didn't play much in his early years, he only got better and better.... just look at his last year. Betts is more of a Redskin style runner and has the potential for years of being a great benefit to us.....

:boxing:[/quote]
i love betts, just like the rest of the redskins. but if you are comparing him to tiki barber, i want what your smoking:Smoker:

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[quote=dmek25;287880]im happy the skins got recognized for something. now lets trade betts before he loses his value :)[/quote]

Dude.. It would be better for Redskins if we don't trade Betts.. Who is another back-up, Rock? He is good but not enough..

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[quote=dmek25;287935]i love betts, just like the rest of the redskins. but if you are comparing him to tiki barber, i want what your smoking:Smoker:[/quote]
I ain't gonna tell you... because then you would want some.....
:food-smil

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[QUOTE=Redskin Rich;287932]Have you ever heard of Tiki Barber... since he didn't play much in his early years, he only got better and better.... just look at his last year. Betts is more of a Redskin style runner and has the potential for years of being a great benefit to us.....

:boxing:[/QUOTE]

Tiki Barber is a far superior back to anything Betts has EVER shown, for one. Two, why does everyone seem to think that Betts is "more of a Skins style runner"? Gibbs doesn't think so or he would start Betts. Portis runs harder, blocks better, fumbles less, and gets in the end zone more. Oh, and he's more durable...and YOUNGER. Betts can't stay healthy and fumbles in HUGE situations. Betts is more patient and ran well through holes you could drive a truck through. I liked the way he produced at the end of the year, but he's nowhere near the runner Portis is and he's not close to Tiki.

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Another thing, Tiki only missed 4 games once in his career, that was his rookie season. Betts has missed 4 games 3 times in 5 years.

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[quote=jdlea;287942]Another thing, Tiki only missed 4 games once in his career, that was his rookie season. Betts has missed 4 games 3 times in 5 years.[/quote]
Gees... I was just using Tiki as an example of how a RB that is not thrown into the mix right away, can turn out to become great.... remember, Tiki was thought to have way to much of a fumble issue to ever be a dependable back.:argue:

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[QUOTE=Redskin Rich;287946]Gees... I was just using Tiki as an example of how a RB that is not thrown into the mix right away, can turn out to become great.... remember, Tiki was thought to have way to much of a fumble issue to ever be a dependable back.:argue:[/QUOTE]

I get the point, but Tiki was amazing his last few years. However, I'm further trying to illustrate the point that I don't believe that Ladell Betts is an every down runner. Fumbling can be fixed, being injury prone usually cannot.

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[quote=jdlea;287947]I get the point, but Tiki was amazing his last few years. However, I'm further trying to illustrate the point that I don't believe that Ladell Betts is an every down runner. Fumbling can be fixed, being injury prone usually cannot.[/quote]

OK, OK.... I get the point... I am :benched:

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[quote=GTripp0012;287917]I agree with Quake, what ignorant fool puts a team sporting DeShaun Foster and another team sporting Reuben Droughns on that list.

Also how can the clear cut no. 1, Tomlinson and Turner, not be on that list?

A person who thinks the Giants have a better backfield tandem than the Chargers doesnt watch much football.[/quote]


exactly what i thought and i will bet money that portis, moss, cooley, and possibly sean taylor will retire a redskin

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;287958]exactly what i thought and i will bet money that portis, moss, cooley, and possibly sean taylor will retire a redskin[/quote]
Quake.... I will bet money two of the four don't do that... what's the stakes???:yeahright

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;287958]exactly what i thought and i will bet money that portis, moss, cooley, and possibly sean taylor will retire a redskin[/quote]
I'll agree with you on Moss, Portis and possibly Cooley. Sean Taylor? I don't know. Remember he did sign a contract for a player drafted 10 to 15 spots below him. 7 years and 18 million was it? I think this guy will break the bank when his contract comes up. Either the 'Skins will pay it or some other team will. That's what has me a little nervous about ST.