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NFL network says that throwing an additional player like Marshall in would seal the deal, to complete the Lance Briggs trade. To me thats the deal breaker, check the link...[URL="http://nfl.com/news/story/10095969"]NFL.com - NFL News[/URL]

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[quote=stu_nna;292960]NFL network says that throwing an additional player like Marshall in would seal the deal, to complete the Lance Briggs trade. To me thats the deal breaker, check the link...[URL="http://nfl.com/news/story/10095969"]NFL.com - NFL News[/URL][/quote]

screw the ****ing bears who gives a shit what they want for once lets try and stop pleasing the damn league and focus on what the redskins want and need and if the bears are too stupid and stubborn to take the deal we already have given them which is already in their favor then they can go to hell and lance briggs can just sit out screw the bears

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"The Bears will have a need at linebacker if Briggs is gone, so [B]a player like LeMar Marshall [/B](104 tackles last year), who is going to be a backup if Briggs joins new addition London Fletcher on the Redskins defense, [B]might interest Jerry Angelo[/B]."

This is not saying they want Marshall. This is Kirwan speculating.

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If they want Marshall, forget it. We would be worse off than before the trade.

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I like Marshall, but honestly, getting Briggs eliminates a lot of the use he would have on this team. If we honestly think that Briggs is all that, I'm not sure why we couldn't spare Marshall.

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[quote=GTripp0012;292968]I like Marshall, but honestly, getting Briggs eliminates a lot of the use he would have on this team. If we honestly think that Briggs is all that, I'm not sure why we couldn't spare Marshall.[/quote]
Totally agree. Marshall is lucky to have a use anymore with an every down middle like Fletch.....If injury...we have much better LBs to replace Marshall. He proved he is much much to small last season.
Bears know it, we know it, kudos to the bears to try and scrape something else outta this.

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I know there hasn't been a poll on it, but Marshall was the biggest dissapointment in my circle of skins fans in 06 BY FAR.

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[quote=Alvin#40;292969]Totally agree. Marshall is lucky to have a use anymore with an every down middle like Fletch.....If injury...we have much better LBs to replace Marshall. He proved he is much much to small last season.
Bears know it, we know it, kudos to the bears to try and scrape something else outta this.[/quote]

Huh? If Fletcher gets hurt who would play the middle? Better Lb's to replace Marshall? Who? He was hurt all year last year and no one was good enough to bump him even as poorly as he played.

We need MLB depth for next year otherwise we are closing our eyes and wishing for the best.

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LOL! I got this from a Chicago Bear forum:




Do we ask for Marcus Washington?
Thu Mar-29-07 10:55 PM

I have seen many say we should ask for McIntosh, but I just don't see that happening. We so much spent on Fletcher and Briggs, I think Wash is going to make sure to keep Mac as a less expensive 3rd LB. That would mean Washington is the odd man out.

Washington is not cheap, but not that absurd either. He has about $6m in bonus remaining on 3 years, which Wash will have to eat. He has base salaries of $4m, $4.3 and $4.5m.

That isn't cheap, but he is a solid veteran that would, at minimum, buy us time to draft/develop a replacement for Briggs w/o any massive dropoff in the short term. Also, as we would not be on the hook for the bonus, we can cut him at any time w/o suffering any cap penalties. Heck, we could cut him next year if we find a cheaper replacement.

Washington is a solid LB who I think would be able to fill in. He would not be cheap, but would be cheaper than Briggs and buy us time. He can tackle and can get to the QB.

The other LB they have that could be interesting is Marshall, who is a year older, but might be an even better fit at WLB for our cover two.

I read, I think from Clayton, that we could counter asking for more by way of picks or players. Wash wants their big name (Briggs) but has some pretty good LBs in the fold now. I am not saying Washington or Marshall are pro bowlers, but they are solid and put them next to Urlacher, and they could provide us a replacement that would not be a massive drop in play on the field.

If we trade Briggs and do not get a LB in the deal, as good as the high pick may be (landry) we will at the same time create a huge hole. Adding a LB like one of these two would fill that void, while allowing us to go into the draft w/o feeling like we have to reach for an OLB.

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This ain't gonna happen...

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it wasent even a good deal as it stood

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"Im not saying Washington is a pro bowler"


LMAO, whatta doof

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would make a lot of sense marshall going to the bears in the deal if it were to happen. would be less competition for rocky for those who think he wouldnt see the field at all, and its not like marshall has the potential to get much better, seeing as he is already 30

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k then let them throw in a second rounder then

so if we get him then , would we not want a backup? oh yeah you dont need depth

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As I said earlier the Bears know we are dumb enough to give them even more so why bother with a no brainer of a sweetheart deal when we will give up even more. That's why they played in the SB last season and we are picking 6th, or should I say were!

If we really want out of the 6th we should start trading down we would winde up with a lot more than we are going to with Briggs, a couple of trade downs should net at least a 2 and a 3, then we can go get all that talent in the second and 3rd round Gibbs has been babbling about.

On a lesser note I believe our 52 million dollar back is now on equal time with his backup L. Betts according to Gibbs, but at least he will technically be the starter. Hurray!

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Is there a possibility that we can throw Gibbs in with this trade?

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[quote=offiss;292989]As I said earlier the Bears know we are dumb enough to give them even more so why bother with a no brainer of a sweetheart deal when we will give up even more. That's why they played in the SB last season and we are picking 6th, or should I say were!

If we really want out of the 6th we should start trading down we would winde up with a lot more than we are going to with Briggs, a couple of trade downs should net at least a 2 and a 3, then we can go get all that talent in the second and 3rd round Gibbs has been babbling about.

On a lesser note I believe our 52 million dollar back is now on equal time with his backup L. Betts according to Gibbs, but at least he will technically be the starter. Hurray![/quote]Well, we certainly have proven to be horrible negotiators in the past.

In this case, we could have our hands tied. We've already come to an agreement with Briggs, so it may be very tough to get away from the deal now. However, we really don't have much more at all to give for Briggs.

I just hope we don't unload any 2008 picks and perpetuate the problem further. I guess when we fall in love with a player, anything can happen.

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I would have a ton of respect for the decision makers if Chicago asked for more and we told them to go shove it.

But like Offiss said, what are the chances of that?

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[QUOTE=offiss;292992]Is there a possibility that we can throw Gibbs in with this trade?[/QUOTE]

Or anyone on this team associated with decison making!


This is all Brunells fault!

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F Chicago and F Lance Briggs! That deal was ALREADY in thir favor....WTF ARE THEY THINKING????

"Oh, the deals already bad for us?"
"Yes, sir."
"Awww, **** it. Throw in a couple linebackers or something just to be nice. That'll do it."

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With the trade as it is we'd be getting more than some other recent teams that have gotten franchised players have gotten

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We are always on the short end of the stick on these damn trades. Lets keep what we got and move on.

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[quote=SmootSmack;293003]With the trade as it is we'd be getting more than some other recent teams that have gotten franchised players have gotten[/quote]I think finding a competant weak side LB is far harder than finding a strong side LB. It just seems that most LB problems stem from a weakness on the weakside since the responsibility is much more spread out over a larger area than the strong side. The WLB has to be really versatile, has to have the coverage skills to get into the curl zone of the split end, and has to be able to come up and make the solo tackle on a weak side run. So getting a guy like Briggs to fill the role helps.

But what happens on 3rd down? Do we pull a defensive tackle and play 3-3-5, and then use the 3-4 philosophy of always bringing four guys, but varying the blitzer? That might work, but we may have to get really creative to keep our best players on the field on third down?

This trade is not a great allocation of our resources, but it beats a trade up for CJ by that standard.

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[QUOTE=stu_nna;292960]NFL network says that throwing an additional player like Marshall in would seal the deal, to complete the Lance Briggs trade. To me thats the deal breaker, check the link...[URL="http://nfl.com/news/story/10095969"]NFL.com - NFL News[/URL][/QUOTE] Its a deal breaker if they don't throw in a 3rd or 4th round pick even with out Marshall. With him its a 2nd and a lower one!

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We have the leverage!!! WTF!! No other teams seem to be too interested in Briggs, and if the Bears don't move him, he'll likely sit out 10 games! We should be dictating the terms, not letting them push us around! Oh man...:doh:

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F the whole trade alltogether

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what source do you trust more espn or nfl network? I honestly dont think we need briggs but imagine starting these three backers...briggs, fletcher, and washington. But we always look good on paper...remember when it was...arrington, trottier, and armistead. It sure did look good on paper. I just dont know what the skins are thinking about they need to use the pick and pick the best player available. Briggs is unfortunately a cancer that we dont need. What happens in two years when he isnt happy with his contract? and whats with jemarcus russell coming to redskin park 4-10...are the skins also considering trading up? isnt russell projected as the first overall pick. I think the skins might be using some smoke and mirrors to fool some people on their intentions with the 6 pick and the briggs trade.

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No thanks! What we want and what we get are two different things!

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This whole thread is based off of an article written by Pat Kerwin. He said the same thing yesterday in his monologue on Moving the Chains. This is not from the Bears folks, so quit getting all upset. I think we all need to relax until something is done.

There is a guy who is quoting some other guy on a Bears message board talking about Marcus Washington. Well I have to say Marcus isn't going anywhere, and as for Lamar Marshall the Bears have not asked for him Pat Kerwin did. As far as Marcus Washington he was mentioned by a FAN, so that definetaly not going to happen.

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Arrington, Trotter, and Armstead can't compare with these three. We're talking about speed, good coverage skills, and tackling abilty. That is what we would have with Washington, Fletcher, and Briggs. Last year for Briggs he had 109 tackles and 2 picks. Fletcher had 104 and 4 picks.
Marcus Washington had 57 and no picks.

We would have the best trio of linebakers in the NFL. I'm not bringing up the past this year. I;'m sick of worrying about the old mistakes we made. I just want to win and these 3 would be our best option. Hell those two linebackers we may have on our team next year hade more picks than our corners did.

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Never give them Golston...it's bad enough that this trade would prevent the redskins from addressing the DL which is their biggest need...but throwing in Golston would weaken an already weak line more. At least Marshall is not needed as much with Briggs here. This whole trade idea sucks...

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;292962]"The Bears will have a need at linebacker if Briggs is gone, so [B]a player like LeMar Marshall [/B](104 tackles last year), who is going to be a backup if Briggs joins new addition London Fletcher on the Redskins defense, [B]might interest Jerry Angelo[/B]."

This is not saying they want Marshall. This is Kirwan speculating.[/QUOTE]

You should have gone to law school. If you want, I'd be happy to swap jobs with you.

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Don't give them anyone, what's the point. The sixth pick isn't enough then the trade shouldn't be consumated period...

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the thing about bringing in briggs is that we dont know how he will fit into the system greg williams has set up but we do know that marshall fits in well into that outside linebacker spot. why would we give up so much for a possible bust when we have a sure thing and rocky as well?

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best trio of linebackers..............accompanied by the worst D-line and secondary in the league

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[quote=Alvin#40;292969]Totally agree. Marshall is lucky to have a use anymore with an every down middle like Fletch.....If injury...we have much better LBs to replace Marshall. He proved he is much much to small last season.
Bears know it, we know it, kudos to the bears to try and scrape something else outta this.[/quote]

If you remember Marshall played very well at weakside in 04 which is his natural position. He IS NOT a middle LB. But he can play well at weakside where he filled in for Lavar in 04 on a top 5 NFL defense.

How about our joke of a FO stop chasing big name players, move Marsahall back at weakside to compete w/ Rocky and go for more pressing needs? This whole Briggs trade proposal is such a joke it's not even funny. Briggs is going to be playing behind highway 99. Let's see how good he is when he's got highway 99 being pushed back into his area. Let's see how good he is then.

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[quote=stu_nna;292960]NFL network says that throwing an additional player like Marshall in would seal the deal, to complete the Lance Briggs trade. To me thats the deal breaker, check the link...[URL="http://nfl.com/news/story/10095969"]NFL.com - NFL News[/URL][/quote]

NOOOOOOOOOO! NO NO NO NO NO!!! Screw Briggs, we can do just fine without him!

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;293078]You should have gone to law school. If you want, I'd be happy to swap jobs with you.[/QUOTE]

Just wish people would pay closer attention to the things they read and hear. Could save a bunch of heart attacks that way.

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SmootSmack/Matty:

Just to be sure that the adreneline doesn't wear off on this thread, how about we all start the rumor that the Skins have re-signed Sultan McCullough and they're going to throw him along with Marshall and Nemo into the trade. :FIREdevil:

After all, the only reason Sultan hasn't been in the Pro Bowl three times already is that there's a consipiracy out there to keep him off the field... :madani:

That ought to keep things cooking here for a while...

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[URL="http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/CHI"][COLOR=#000099]Chicago Bears[/COLOR][/URL]
Updated:03/30/2007The Bears have Washington's first-round draft pick (No. 6 overall) on the table in a proposed deal for linebacker [B]Lance Briggs[/B] and the Bears' first-round pick (No. 31 overall). According to the [I]Daily Southtown[/I], the Bears have told Redskins officials they will take through the weekend, and possibly longer, to respond.

[url=http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-RUMOR]National Football League - CBS SportsLine.com[/url]


If this actually happens i am not wasting my money on one game next year