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What would be your choice if the draft turns out like this
1. Raiders- Jamarcus Russell
2. Lions- Brady Quinn
3. Browns- Joe Thomas
4. Buccaneers- Calvin Johnson
5. Cardinals- Gaines Adam
6. Redskins- ?????????
Okay here's the options
1. Amobi Okoye
2. Alan Branch
3. Jamal Anderson
4. Laron Landry
Now there are some trade offers too...
1. Atlanta- 8th and 75th overall for the 6th (ATL takes Landry)
2. Buffalo- 12th overall and 43 overall for the 6th and 143rd overall
or 12, 74th, 92nd and 184th overall for 6th overall (BUF takes Peterson)

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If the draft fell the way you say here - - even though I'd be surprised if it did - - I'd take the Atlanta trade offer to go down to #8 and pick up the #75 pick.

The reason I'd do that is because I'd then try to trade the #8 pick to some other team who wanted to move up - - and in the process pick up yet another pick in rounds 2/3 for this year.

If your scenario is correct and I make that trade and ATL takes Peterson, the Vikes are drafting at #7. They are reportedly in love with Gaines Adams (already gone) and Jamal Anderson (still on the board); assume for a moment they take Anderson. So a team that covets Landry (not a position the Skins should spend a high draft pick on) or Branch (not one of my favorites) or Joe Flabeetz would now be motivated to come to the Skins and try to grab that #8 pick... And hence I'd start to rebuild the 2007 draft that was so horribly traded away last season.

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I think a lot of us can agree that the best case scenario would be to try and squeeze out all the good picks we can.

I know that sounds pretty obvious, but I think a lot of some dreamers still think trading up is a good move.

I hope we're impressed with some well executed draft musical chairs. I'm not sure if that makes any sense at all, but it has kind of a nice ring to it.

Never mind.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon;294289]If the draft fell the way you say here - - even though I'd be surprised if it did - - I'd take the Atlanta trade offer to go down to #8 and pick up the #75 pick.

The reason I'd do that is because I'd then try to trade the #8 pick to some other team who wanted to move up - - and in the process pick up yet another pick in rounds 2/3 for this year.

If your scenario is correct and I make that trade and ATL takes Peterson, the Vikes are drafting at #7. They are reportedly in love with Gaines Adams (already gone) and Jamal Anderson (still on the board); assume for a moment they take Anderson. So a team that covets Landry (not a position the Skins should spend a high draft pick on) or Branch (not one of my favorites) or Joe Flabeetz would now be motivated to come to the Skins and try to grab that #8 pick... And hence I'd start to rebuild the 2007 draft that was so horribly traded away last season.

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Okay why would Atlanta pick Peterson?? they already have dunn and norwoods they would take Landry in a second

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;294289]If the draft fell the way you say here - - even though I'd be surprised if it did - - I'd take the Atlanta trade offer to go down to #8 and pick up the #75 pick.

The reason I'd do that is because I'd then try to trade the #8 pick to some other team who wanted to move up - - and in the process pick up yet another pick in rounds 2/3 for this year.

If your scenario is correct and I make that trade and ATL takes Peterson, the Vikes are drafting at #7. They are reportedly in love with Gaines Adams (already gone) and Jamal Anderson (still on the board); assume for a moment they take Anderson. So a team that covets Landry (not a position the Skins should spend a high draft pick on) or Branch (not one of my favorites) or Joe Flabeetz would now be motivated to come to the Skins and try to grab that #8 pick... And hence I'd start to rebuild the 2007 draft that was so horribly traded away last season.

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Yeah, Atlanta taking Adrian Peterson doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. They're stocked at RB.

Bobby Petrino coached Okoye at Louisville though, that one would make sense. Landry would make sense for them too.

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Good Point, I forgot about amobi okoye that is another possibility for atlanta

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I'd take the last option but are you sure Buffalo has those picks?

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[quote=SmootSmack;294303]I'd take the last option but are you sure Buffalo has those picks?[/quote]

I agree that the Buffalo scenarios are the best and maybe that would be more plausible now that it looks like Marshawn Lynch might not be the player that he was originally hyped as (meaning there is a big drop off at RB after Peterson).

Buffalo holds picks 12, 43, 74, 92, 111, 184, 222, 239. Looks weird to a Redskins fan for a team to actually have a whole host of draft picks, but there it is.

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Thanks SC Skins. So we could do something like this?

Possible Draft:

Round 1 (12th): DE Jarvis Moss (he's my flavor of the week, probably won't go that high though)

Round 3 (74th): OG Josh Beekman

Round 3 (92nd): DT (don't know who)

Round 5 (133rd-our own pick): DB CJ Gaddis?

Round 6 (166th-our own pick): ILB Nate Harris

Round 6 (184th): SS (don't know who)

Round 6 (189th-from Bears): TE (some big blocker dude)

Round 7 (our own pick): WR Keeley Hazell

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Amobi Okoye

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[quote=Bbaker24;294286]What would be your choice if the draft turns out like this
1. Raiders- Jamarcus Russell
2. Lions- Brady Quinn
3. Browns- Joe Thomas
4. Buccaneers- Calvin Johnson
5. Cardinals- Gaines Adam
6. Redskins- ?????????
Okay here's the options
1. Amobi Okoye
2. Alan Branch
3. Jamal Anderson
4. Laron Landry
Now there are some trade offers too...
1. Atlanta- 8th and 75th overall for the 6th (ATL takes Landry)
2. Buffalo- 12th overall and 43 overall for the 6th and 143rd overall
or 12, 74th, 92nd and 184th overall for 6th overall (BUF takes Peterson)[/quote]I like the Atlanta trade, and we should even be able to get one of their two second rounders as opposed to their third if we negotiate it well, but I can't in good faith expect them to go Landry with Okoye still there. In your scenario, you assume they are going with Landry, in which case I would trade down and get Okoye.

However, if I was the GM, I would just make the Okoye selection at 6. I wouldn't risk trading spots with his college coach and ending up stuck at 8 and being forced to trade down again.

If we are going to pass on Okoye, I would want to trade down into the bottom half of the round and try to get Branch, Justin Harrell, or even Carriker if he falls there. It's tough to expect teams more than 10 picks below you to come up with enough value to warrent a trade up. I don't see it happening.

So I'd just grab Okoye at 6, unless I thought that Atlanta was going with Landry regardless.

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[quote=SmootSmack;294305]Thanks SC Skins. So we could do something like this?

Possible Draft:

Round 1 (12th): DE Jarvis Moss (he's my flavor of the week, probably won't go that high though)

Round 3 (74th): OG Josh Beekman

Round 3 (92nd): DT (don't know who)

Round 5 (133rd-our own pick): DB CJ Gaddis?

Round 6 (166th-our own pick): ILB Nate Harris

Round 6 (184th): SS (don't know who)

Round 6 (189th-from Bears): TE (some big blocker dude)

Round 7 (our own pick): WR Keeley Hazell[/quote]Matt Speath of Minnesota is probably the best blocking TE to come out since Jason Peters of Arkansas.

Yes, that's the same Jason Peters that became a future pro bowl LT in Buffalo.

Speath is exactly what we are looking for. It may take some luck to have him fall all the way to us in the 5th, but he's the kind of guy I would be willing to trade up into the 4th for. He's a great run blocker and a great pass blocker. He's slow, but he still runs decent routes and can catch the ball, so having him on the field is not a liability. If we got Okoye and him in the same draft, I just...I just might take a week off from posting.

Certainly he would boost the running game more than Calvin Johnson would, and we wouldn't have to keep Cooley in on passing plays anymore. We could put Cooley in the slot and let him run a quick in route or something on 3rd down.

I'm sure we know a little bit about him already from going over film of Montgomery from last year.

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The trade with Buffalo would be great. I figure out of 8 picks we should be able to get 2 that contribute in their rookie season. Also, I'd like to get Carricker, but 12 is a bit of a reach.

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[quote=arrington_QBkiller;294311]The trade with Buffalo would be great. I figure out of 8 picks we should be able to get 2 that contribute in their rookie season. Also, I'd like to get Carricker, but 12 is a bit of a reach.[/quote]

Why does every think that Carriker is a reach at 12 or that he might fall to the end of the first round? He very well won't make it past San Francisco at #11 as he is one of the few DEs in this draft who is big enough to play end in a 3-4 scheme. If the Skins could fall to 12 and have a shot at any of the top DLmen who might fall there (Carriker, Okoye, Branch being the most likely...with Kirwan's latest mock having Branch still available there) that would be pretty sweet, especially if it also got us a high second or two thirds. Hopefully the Bills would be interested in making such a move to get Peterson (probably) as that is the first sensible trade I've heard yet. Not sure it is really all that great for Buffalo, though, so maybe it won't go down or maybe it would end up being like the 12th, a 3rd, and the 2008 3rd round pick they got from BMore in the McGahee trade.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;294314]Why does every think that Carriker is a reach at 12 or that he might fall to the end of the first round? He very well won't make it past San Francisco at #11 as he is one of the few DEs in this draft who is big enough to play end in a 3-4 scheme. If the Skins could fall to 12 and have a shot at any of the top DLmen who might fall there (Carriker, Okoye, Branch being the most likely...with Kirwan's latest mock having Branch still available there) that would be pretty sweet, especially if it also got us a high second or two thirds. Hopefully the Bills would be interested in making such a move to get Peterson (probably) as that is the first sensible trade I've heard yet. Not sure it is really all that great for Buffalo, though, so maybe it won't go down or maybe it would end up being like the 12th, a 3rd, and the 2008 3rd round pick they got from BMore in the McGahee trade.[/quote]I think, I think, Carriker would look good in the old B + G. Even so, I think we'd be better off taking one of the big 3 DTs if we trade down. Carriker's good, but players of his mold can be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. He's not a can't miss prospect.

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I want Jarvis Moss, Justin Harrell, Josh Beekman, and Chris Houston. Make it work

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I think we could trade with Atlanta to get the 8 spot, still get Okoye, and grab an extra draft pick in the process. They want Laron Landry. And they can have him for sure if they snag the 6 spot. The question is, will they be willing to do it? A lot of people seem to think Landry will be there at 8. If we can't find any trade partners for the 6th pick, either take the flavor of the week (to quote SmootSmack) D-lineman, or pull a draft-and-trade deal with a team below us who wants someone we can snag....

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I like the last option with Buffalo... It seems like it's been a while since our Redskins made a deal to acquire picks:)
I personally would trade with the Patriots (they want Landry) give them our 6th selection in the first round. For both of their late first round selections (24 and 26 I think)...
Jared Allen DE Kansas City could be traded for... give the Chefs our latest first round and a 3rd round pick from next year...
Then take Carriker or Branch (which ever is available with the earliest 1st round selectin from New England)...
To me... This bolsters up our MAIN WEAKNESS... Def. Line "Lets put pressure on the QB and stop the run!!! Just like the glory days...

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If we stay at 6 I think we should really pick Anderson or Adams. However, it wouldn't surprise me if the selection would go on Landry too.
The Buffalo scenario is the most beautiful for us, at least we get another day one pick...

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By staying at 6 I want Gaines Adams or Jamaal Anderson, possibly Okoye. I dont want Alan Branch, he takes to many plays off.

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Amobi Okoye, or trade down for Moss. (Florida)

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Moss looks like a better version of Charles Mann coming out of college. He should develope into a force within 2 years.

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By all accounts, it sounds as if the front office wasn't impressed with Anderson or Adams.

The best case scenario would be for either Quinn, Peterson or LaRon Landry to be available at #6. Then we should have no problem trading down.

I want a defensive tackle and a defensive end with our first two picks, no matter where they happen to be.

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ill take landry at 6......but i like the trade with the bills at 12 taking carriker then with the third round pick taking eric weddle if he is still there...if he isnt there i wouldnt mind the tennesse dt turk mcbride. mcbride is a little undersized at 280 but he is a stone cold beast of a player and could add weight very easily.

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Laundry.........LSU, it would be like having Reed and Taylor in the backfield

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[quote=GTripp0012;294309]Matt Speath of Minnesota is probably the best blocking TE to come out since Jason Peters of Arkansas.

Yes, that's the same Jason Peters that became a future pro bowl LT in Buffalo.

Speath is exactly what we are looking for. [B]It may take some luck to have him fall all the way to us in the 5th, but he's the kind of guy I would be willing to trade up into the 4th for[/B].
I'm sure we know a little bit about him already from going over film of Montgomery from last year.[/quote]

I can see us trading a 6th round pick to go with our 5th to move up into the 4th round to nab at least one guy with a fair chance to see the field. That would still leave us with 2 6th round picks.

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mel kiper jr and his amazing hair is pressed on the idea that the redskins need to and will draft laron landry. im not so sure that they need him that badly.

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[quote=SkinsFan6388;298334]mel kiper jr and his amazing hair is pressed on the idea that the redskins need to and will draft laron landry. im not so sure that they need him that badly.[/quote]Not at all. Despite Landry's near certain pro bowl caliber talent, our safety situation will go as Sean Taylor does, with or without Landry. Seems kind of pointless to draft a safety only to watch offenses pick on the other safety.

And if Sean Taylor can establish himself as a feared cover man in this league, really, what would be the point of Landry then? It would just remove any possibility of us finding a hidden gem at the safety postion, and finding hidden gems is the only way to restore this defense quickly.

Put simply, we just have to get lucky, and not do stupid things like draft 2 top 6 safeties in 4 years.

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I am just going to let the FO make this decision. They are the ones that have scouted all of the players, conducted the interviews and broken down the film. As long as we do not take an offensive player in the first round I'm cool with their decision.

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[quote=angryssg;298476]I am just going to let the FO make this decision. They are the ones that have scouted all of the players, conducted the interviews and broken down the film. As long as we do not take an offensive player in the first round I'm cool with their decision.[/quote]

what if they take a QB or a LB?? I would be beyond pissed

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[quote=hooskins;298478]what if they take a QB or a LB?? I would be beyond pissed[/quote]

As I've previously stated as long as its not an offensive player. If they deem that we need another LB, then oh well. They know their weaknesses better than we do.

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[quote=angryssg;298479]As I've previously stated as long as its not an offensive player. If they deem that we need another LB, then oh well. They know their weaknesses better than we do.[/quote]

I admit they know more scouting info about personal players, but I think the smarter members on this forum(not saying you arent, I think you would fit in that category) can see that with offseason aqurring of Flecther and last years pick of Rocky, along with Washington seems solid. No need to waste a 1st rounder on LBs.

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[quote=hooskins;298483]I admit they know more scouting info about personal players, but I think the smarter members on this forum(not saying you arent, I think you would fit in that category) can see that with offseason aqurring of Flecther and last years pick of Rocky, along with Washington seems solid. No need to waste a 1st rounder on LBs.[/quote]

While I agree, you have to question why they were looking at Brigg's

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[quote=angryssg;298484]While I agree, you have to question why they were looking at Brigg's[/quote]

I am overjoyed that the deal hasnt worked out so far.

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[quote=hooskins;298487]I am overjoyed that the deal hasnt worked out so far.[/quote]

Me too, but that still doesn't answer why the were looking at him in the first place. They obviously know something we don't

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[quote=angryssg;298494]Me too, but that still doesn't answer why the were looking at him in the first place. They obviously know something we don't[/quote]

Or maybe they have false idea of building the team via free agency, and have not learned from the errors and the insane cap hits to come...

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[quote=hooskins;298497]Or maybe they have false idea of building the team via free agency, and have not learned from the errors and the insane cap hits to come...[/quote]

Judging by our lack of blockbuster flops this offseason, I think they are starting to get the picture.

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Ponder this. what if they are looking for another LB in the event that London Fletcher doesn't pan out or gets hurt and they have to move Lemar back inside. Maybe they are not comfortable with Mcintosh yet.

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[quote=angryssg;298500]Ponder this. what if they are looking for another LB in the event that London Fletcher doesn't pan out or gets hurt and they have to move Lemar back inside. Maybe they are not comfortable with Mcintosh yet.[/quote]
Ok well the first situation is idiotic IMO. If we think Fletcher will be prone to get hurt, or we have doubts about his ability dont pay him tons of money. His market value would be much lower too if that is the case.

And if they arent comfortable with Rocky, I would think they should give him more starting time to see if he pans out. And if he doesnt then they shouldnt have been soo agressive in drafting him

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[quote=hooskins;298501]Ok well the first situation is idiotic IMO. If we think Fletcher will be prone to get hurt, or we have doubts about his ability dont pay him tons of money. His market value would be much lower too if that is the case.

And if they arent comfortable with Rocky, I would think they should give him more starting time to see if he pans out. And if he doesnt then they shouldnt have been soo agressive in drafting him[/quote]

Well, it is not like it is uncharacteristic of them to get a MLB and it not work out IE Michael Borrow. They had to pay Fletcher to get him here. If you remember he was hurt last year, but was still considered one of the top LB's in FA this offseason. That is what determined his value. They believe that he is the man for the job, otherwise they wouln't have signed him. But knowing what has happened to them in the past I wouldn't be suprised if they try to cover their ass with the aforementioned scenario. As far as Rocky is concerned he is viewed as a future starter. But maybe the coaches don't feel he is ready yet.

Once again, this is only food for thought. There is no factual information supporting my speculation.