Don Imus
 

I didn't think much of his [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGnu0l8shs"]comment about the Rutgers Womens basketball team[/URL]. After reading about his [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/09/AR2007040901008_3.html?hpid=sec-artsliving"]reaction[/URL] to someone "insulting" though, I must say, the man is a complete jackass.

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That is hilarious how he says, don't you dare insult me!

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All racists are pathetic. He's a bigot.

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saden, i hope it didn't take this for you to realize Imus is a complete ass

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Unfortunately, he probably will not get what he desperately desreves. He'll have fall guy

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A typical modern-day racist: one who thinks he's not. :doh:

I cannot understand how people try to explain racist remarks by saying they were accidental. I have said many things that I regret, but I meant to say them. Never have words come out of my mouth, that I did not intentionally speak. What a crock.

Then, he comes with the typical racist defense: I have black friends ... I know black people. Imus, you're a douche. Just because you know black people does not mean you are not a racist. It just means your a racist who knows black people. Being a racist is not about who you know, or associate with -- it is about your attitude and beliefs.

The worst part is that he got all bent out of shape when he was insulted without provocation on Sharpton's radio show. OMG. What a hypocritical, racist, wrinkled douche bag.

F... Imus.

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I've always thought Imus was a jackass, this just proves it.

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Here's my take very quickly. And I have some very strong opinions about incidents like this one. For the record, I think Inus is a jackass and perhaps racist. Although I'm not totally sure about the latter.

But I will say that we have a double standard in today's society. Had it been JayZ or Diddy who said it, we wouldn't have this same reaction. I promise you that.

I think, in part, Imus, is and has been like subject to our present day culture that makes it acceptable for certain people to say things, but when a white man says it, it's immidiately catorgorized as racism or bigotry.

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[quote=12thMan;295826]Here's my take very quickly. And I have some very strong opinions about incidents like this one. For the record, I think Inus is a jackass and perhaps racist. Although I'm not totally sure about the latter.

But I will say that we have a double standard in today's society. Had it been JayZ or Diddy who said it, we wouldn't have this same reaction. I promise you that.

I think, in part, Imus, is and has been like subject to our present day culture that makes it acceptable for certain people to say things, but when a white man says it, it's immidiately catorgorized as racism or bigotry.[/quote]

I agree. There is a double standard, and it should be tolerable for NOBODY to make statements like Imus did. Yet, it is.
Imus, like others before him, have made statements, only to recant them with apologies. Just trying to save their ass.
Like Mel Gibson..........he really thinks the Jews are great because he sobered up? BS, the booze just loosened him up, to tell what he viewed as the truth.
In this country, you get to speak your mind, but that doesn't mean it does not have severe consequences.
I have NO use for bloodsuckers like Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson, and others like him who do more damage to race relations than good..................but Imus NEEDS to go down for his deeds.
Live by the sword, die by the sword

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He's an idiot shock-jock who's career, just like all the other shock jocks, is solely based on saying outrageous things to get more people to tune in. Anyone listening to that audio clip should be able to discern that there was no hatred in his voice for black people. It was clearly insensitive but that does categorize him as being a racist. Stupid, but not a hater of black people.

With that line of thinking I would be a racist of white people because rare is the day that goes by that I don't laugh and make fun of the local redneck populace.

I still find it funny for people to classify other humans as another race for the simple fact that their ancestors prospered in a region of the world that caused their skin to appropriately adapt in order to efficiently regulate body temperature and help stave off the damaging effects of the sun.

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Did anyone see the press conference from Rutgers.....


Does anyone else think this is just A LITTLE over the top. I mean I dont for one second condone anything the guy said, and if he's fired, I dont really give a crap because he's a moron for saying it....

But seriously, this is just getting a little bit out of hand. Didnt anyone ever remember "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

I mean is it really nessacary to have this team paraded out there for some press conference with the President of Rutgers telling the girls how much his heart goes out to them during such a dark period of their lives..... I don't know, I just think this is all a little much.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;295835]He's an idiot shock-jock who's career, just like all the other shock jocks, is solely based on saying outrageous things to get more people to tune in. Anyone listening to that audio clip should be able to discern that there was no hatred in his voice for black people. It was clearly insensitive but that does categorize him as being a racist. Stupid, but not a hater of black people.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. He said a dumb, dumb, dumb thing. But, I've listened to the guy for awhile and have never heard any other indication of racism. He should give numerous, public, and sincere apologies and we should move on.

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You don't have to hate black people to be racist. You only have to have an opinion about them which is based only on their skin color.

It should be noted that Imus was not alone in this. There was another man in the booth (I think his producer), and I can't be certain who said what. However, they were certainly in agreement.

Imus' statements reflect his attitude and beliefs towards the people whom he described. He (or his producer) called the Rutgers girls "Jigaboos", which is only a very small step away from n*****. I cannot understand how somebody would refer to black people in this manner, without having some negative opinion.

Based on that statement, Imus is racist. He clearly has a negative opinion about those people -- whom he does not know -- simply because of the color of their skin.

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Wow, I didn't hear anyone say "jigaboos." That would make the incident worse, but I haven't heard anything else about the use of that term.
I don't think it was a horrible incident (and I'm pretty sensitive to racial issues), but I am certainly not going to argue with you GDAS.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;295835]I still find it funny for people to classify other humans as another race for the simple fact that their ancestors prospered in a region of the world that caused their skin to appropriately adapt in order to efficiently regulate body temperature and help stave off the damaging effects of the sun.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with this. There is only one race: Human.

Which reminds me of a Beastie Boys lyric:
I went to get a loan and they asked my race.
I wrote down 'human' inside the space.
It's a disgrace how they try to debase.
It ain't no bank's damn business how our lineage trace.

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Imus is a washed up ass!

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[QUOTE=jbcjr14;295863]Imus is a washed up ass![/QUOTE]

Yum, sounds tasty.

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His comments were not racist, I mean he said the Tennessee girls look good and they have plenty of black players on their team. It's simply a case of a jackass making a derogatory and offensive comment.

If you want to know racist, [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JfCpojoFk"]this is it[/URL] (watch the end).

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;295856]You don't have to hate black people to be racist. You only have to have an opinion about them which is based only on their skin color.[/quote]

You're right. I didn't do a good job defining the word racist.

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[QUOTE=saden1;295865]His comments were not racist, I mean he said the Tennessee girls look good and they have plenty of black players on their team. It's simply a case of a jackass making a derogatory and offensive comment.

If you want to know racist, [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JfCpojoFk"]this is it[/URL] (watch the end).[/QUOTE]

She's a total idiot and trash. I've always thought that and the vid just confirms it.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;295858]Wow, I didn't hear anyone say "jigaboos." That would make the incident worse, but I haven't heard anything else about the use of that term.
I don't think it was a horrible incident (and I'm pretty sensitive to racial issues), but I am certainly not going to argue with you GDAS.[/QUOTE]

0:25 seconds in:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGnu0l8shs]YouTube - Don Imus Apologizes for Racist Comments (with the comments)[/url]

I don't want to defend the guy(s), but it seems like the term was used as a reference to some movie, perhaps (Spike Lee maybe). Unfortunately, I don't get the reference.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;295858]Wow, I didn't hear anyone say "jigaboos." That would make the incident worse, but I haven't heard anything else about the use of that term.
I don't think it was a horrible incident (and I'm pretty sensitive to racial issues), but I am certainly not going to argue with you GDAS.[/QUOTE]

I didn't hear jigaboos either. Man, that would definitely make shit hit the fan.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;295867]She's a total idiot and trash. I've always thought that and the vid just confirms it.[/QUOTE]

What's really ironic is that bitch never finished high school.

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[QUOTE=saden1;295873]What's really ironic is that bitch never finished high school.[/QUOTE]

She just proves that money does not equal class. I'd be fine with her not finishing high school as I have friends who aren't the best educated, but who are smart and good people. I just can't tolerate idiots and classless trash.
The sad thing is that so many young girls are imitating Paris and that girls like Paris "set women back" by making it cool be appear dumb and irresponsible.

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Trash is, as Trash does.........Forrest

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not to change the subject, but as much as i hate Paris Hilton, i love me some Nicky Hilton

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[QUOTE=dmek25;295898]not to change the subject, but as much as i hate Paris Hilton, i love me some Nicky Hilton[/QUOTE]

I think Nicky is actually cute. Definately has nice eyes.

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[QUOTE=saden1;295871]I didn't hear jigaboos either. Man, that would definitely make shit hit the fan.[/QUOTE]

It wasn't Imus that said jigaboos; it was one of the other guys with him. They were trying to reference School Daze - jigaboos (Rutgers) v. wannabes(Tennessee). Imus just agreed, well and called them "nappy-headed hos."

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;295856]You don't have to hate black people to be racist. You only have to have an opinion about them which is based only on their skin color.

It should be noted that Imus was not alone in this. There was another man in the booth (I think his producer), and I can't be certain who said what. However, they were certainly in agreement.

Imus' statements reflect his attitude and beliefs towards the people whom he described. He (or his producer) called the Rutgers girls "Jigaboos", which is only a very small step away from n*****. I cannot understand how somebody would refer to black people in this manner, without having some negative opinion.

Based on that statement, Imus is racist. He clearly has a negative opinion about those people -- whom he does not know -- simply because of the color of their skin.[/quote]
Not sure if you know what your talking about. Imus was on a one and one interview with Ail Sharpton when this happened. Can you give us any link to back up whatyoue have stated as fact. There has been nothing in what i have read and that would make this even a bigger deal.

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[quote=Gmanc711;295841]Did anyone see the press conference from Rutgers.....


Does anyone else think this is just A LITTLE over the top. I mean I dont for one second condone anything the guy said, and if he's fired, I dont really give a crap because he's a moron for saying it....

But seriously, this is just getting a little bit out of hand. Didnt anyone ever remember "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

I mean is it really nessacary to have this team paraded out there for some press conference with the President of Rutgers telling the girls how much his heart goes out to them during such a dark period of their lives..... I don't know, I just think this is all a little much.[/quote]


i totaly agree with you. i saw some of that press conference earlier today. absolutely rediculous. people are way to sensative. i'm not trying to defend the guy but come on, who really gives a crap.
i also agree with the person that brought up the "double standard" issue. there is definately a double standard in todays society. if it had been a black person who said those comments, this would be a non issue, even if the black person would have said something about an all white team it would still be a non issue.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;296080]Not sure if you know what your talking about. Imus was on a one and one interview with Ail Sharpton when this happened. Can you give us any link to back up whatyoue have stated as fact. There has been nothing in what i have read and that would make this even a bigger deal.[/QUOTE]

Imus was on a one-on-one interview with Sharpton when what happened? The racial slurs? No, sorry. That was on Imus' radio show. Also, when Imus was interviewed by Sharpton, on Sharpton's radio show, it was not one-on-one. Maybe I have misunderstood you, and you can clarify.

If you want links, check the ones posted in this thread.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;295826]Here's my take very quickly. And I have some very strong opinions about incidents like this one. For the record, I think Inus is a jackass and perhaps racist. Although I'm not totally sure about the latter.

But I will say that we have a double standard in today's society. Had it been JayZ or Diddy who said it, we wouldn't have this same reaction. I promise you that.

I think, in part, Imus, is and has been like subject to our present day culture that makes it acceptable for certain people to say things, but when a white man says it, it's immidiately catorgorized as racism or bigotry.[/QUOTE]

If a Jewish man makes insults to another Jewish man using degrading remarks related to physical characteristics used to describe Jews by the Nazi's, it reveals a deep level of self-hatred , ignorance and a completely absent knowledge of their history. The reason a white person in the public or private sector should be held accountable for a racist remark against a non-white person is because the very language and racist meaning of the terms were created by whites to attempt to justify their superiority over all non-white people. Coon, Sambo, Negro were used to make an entire race feel that they were less than human. This is the history of America in black and white. Rappers are mental casualties of war who were left to survive for themselves in the streets of America with no real understanding of who they are , where they come from and how words can be used to empower or destroy a peoples minds.

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Imus isn't just a shock jock... he's a syndicated host on MSNBC with ties to several politicians inside the beltway, including McCain. Just because the term "hoes" is used in many a rap song to objectify women, Imus doesn't have the right to conjoin the terms "nappy headed" and "hoes" to describe actual women playing for a team. You're specifically calling a group of women (not just a generalization) whores with unprocessed hair.

Would it have been appropriate to call the team "watermelon-eating tricks?" There's nothing inherently wrong with the term "watermelon-eating", but in the context of stereotypes it is dead wrong. Imus is an ass.

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wow

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/11/national/main2674338.shtml]MSNBC Pulls Plug On Don Imus, Cable Network Responds To Growing Outrage By Dropping Simulcast Of "Imus In The Morning" - CBS News[/url]

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"MSNBC's decision to drop the simulcast came after a growing list of sponsors — including American Express Co., Staples Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., and General Motors Corp. — said they were pulling ads from Imus' show for the indefinite future."

Damn. That's a lot of money in sponsorship.

I'm appalled at what he said, and he deserves what he gets. Yet, I kinda feel sorry for him. Not for his punishment -- because he's a moron. What a stupid way to end a career.

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My uncle made a pretty good point to me tonight. He said "You know, if someone like Chris Rock said these comments, we wouldn't ever here about it"...

I kind of agree with him.

Granted, I've despised Imus for quite a long time, but I think my uncle had a point.

IMO I think the only reason he got yanked was because the advertisers pulled out. It was merely a business decision, so don't give MS NBC any credit for being "noble" or anything to that cause.

Imus is and always has been a bastard... so I don't think that's any news.

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This thread is like beating a dead horse. It is all the media has talked about over the coarse of the entire week. Yes what he said was messed up because it was the wrong venue to state it apparently. Had that been the Chapelle show or Mind of Mencia, it would just have been blown off as comedy. But, oh no! a white man makes a racial remark, and now its not commedy its racism. Get the F*** outta here. Its either all comedy, or its all racism, I'm tired of all of this double standard S***. Because I know that many of you are curious now. For the record I'm white, my step-father which I consider my Father is Puerto Rican. I have a Black uncle, mixed cousins, a Native American Aunt, and an Italian Grandfather. I served in the military with every race creed color and gender, and I work for a minority owned business. So nothing I have said can be thrown out as me being biased. I am just tired of this crap. Cant we all just get along? Damn!

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I dont know much about Imus, but I did watch the clip where he made that statement, plus I have seen the whole one on one with sharpton and his multiple apologies.

Look he said what he said, and honestly it might be good he did. It brought up an issue of racism that we usually try to hide. Now I am glad the public is out there talking about it. But just staying mad at him doesn't accomplish anything. You have to learn from the situation and move on.

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The main difference between Imus and rappers/comedians is that he called a specific group of women nappy head hos. While not acceptable rappers don't direct insults like that at specific people (unless they are beefing with them).

As for comedians they are in the business of satire. Brian (the dog) in Family Guy constantly makes racist comments about black people but no one rides Seth McFarland about it and they shouldn't. What about South Park? Man, they are out there and funny at that. It's making fun of stereotypes and it hurts no one in particular, well, maybe Tom Cruise and Scientologists.

Imus on the other hand said really hurtful things. You may not see it that way but a lot of people do. If Imus' sponsors pull out on him, well, that's his fault. Weather just or not. Would he even be allowed on the air again if he said some racist stuff about Jews?

People should be accountable for shit that comes out of their mouths and Imus is getting his. I doubt we have seen the last of him. He'll probably be back after things have cooled down.

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So when Carlos Mencia did the Racial Olympics he wasn't pointing out specific Individuals? Then who was competing?