Would this trade with GB make sense?
 

Pilfered from Matt Williamson's chat on ESPN today:

[quote=chat transcript]
Ty (Milwaukee): Will the Packers draft Lynch at 16 or try and move up to 5 or 6 to draft Peterson? Would swapping 1st round picks and sending their 2nd rounder pick, KGB, and a 2008 conditional pick be enough?

Matt Williamson: (12:56 PM ET ) Peterson would obviously be a home run for GBay and they might be able to swing it with Minny. Minny's first for GB's 1, 2 and KGB would probably be plenty and that could actually make both teams better. If they stay put, GB MUST get skill position guys. Olsen would be a logical pick. A guy like Ginn would make a lot of sense, as would Lynch, who could possibly be off the board by then to Buff.[/quote]

That would be an amazing deal for the Skins if we posed it instead of Minn I doubt that Minnesota and GB would make a trade like that but it wouldn't hurt either team much if we did it with GB..

A pass rusher, plus 2 picks? Are we smart enough to pursue that?

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I think that is a pipe dream. GB would be giving up too much.

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[quote=Paintrain;301208]Pilfered from Matt Williamson's chat on ESPN today:



That would be an amazing deal for the Skins if we posed it instead of Minn I doubt that Minnesota and GB would make a trade like that but it wouldn't hurt either team much if we did it with GB..

A pass rusher, plus 2 picks? Are we smart enough to pursue that?[/quote]

I would be very happy with that from a personnel standpoint.

But whenever you talk about acquiring a veteran player, you have to ask what the salary cap hit is. I've got no idea what KGB is scheduled to make this season, but chances are we'd be in a cap conundrum since we only have about $4 - $5 million in space right now. Of course, acquiring KGB could mean that Wynn becomes expendable, and we could generate enough savings by cutting him.

All depends on what KGB makes.

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[quote=mredskins;301209]I think that is a pipe dream. GB would be giving up too much.[/quote]

Yeah thinking about it from GB's perspective, I don't think that's a move they'd want to make, really. Peterson would be a good get for them, but they're more than one player away.

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Why would GB give up all that just to move up to take Peterson?? They would have to be on crack to make that move.

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This trade would be phenomenal. In fact, i think it would still be good even if they didn't offer the 3rd rounder. But we may be able to get better come draft day

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The trade would be an absolute no brainer for us. In terms of cap, like Schneed pointed out, it could pose a problem, but I'm sure we could dump some dead weight to make room.
We're looking to get an impact defensive lineman player...DE or DL, and getting KGB would mean we have that impact player and get some later round picks...wow what a deal for us. But that would mean GB being amazingly stupid. I just don't see it happening.

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why would the pack do this? anyone have any idea who their starting running back is right now?

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[quote=dmek25;301235]why would the pack do this? anyone have any idea who their starting running back is right now?[/quote]

The reason would be they're in DIRE need of a RB this year.

Their backfield consists of Vernand Morency, Noah Herron, Arliss Beach, Brandon Miree, and PJ Pope.

LOL, that's really ugly. But I think they're much more likely to see if Marshawn Lynch drops to them.

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This does not make sense, from a GB stand point at all. And no, dmek I don't even think they know?

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Have the Packers ever mentioned the possibility of giving up KGB? Good pass rushers are so hard to come by, I can't imagine Green Bay tossing him in there -- unless there's been frustrations from either side made public.

Until I see something officially from the the Pack, this is fantasyland-delusional fan-speak. Coming from a Packers fan no less.

Not a chance.

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[quote=mredskins;301209]I think that is a pipe dream. GB would be giving up too much.[/quote]


who cares if gb is giving up too much think about it we get bascially 4 players for one we get kgb, the 16th pick cough reggie nelson a second rounder cough anthony spencer and a 2008 pick we cant lose with that

but it wont happen

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If Quinn and/or Peterson are available at #6, we're going to have quite a few offers to consider.

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is peterson really worth that much? seems to me running backs are a dime a dozen these days.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;301249]Have the Packers ever mentioned the possibility of giving up KGB? Good pass rushers are so hard to come by, I can't imagine Green Bay tossing him in there -- unless there's been frustrations from either side made public.

Until I see something officially from the the Pack, this is fantasyland-delusional fan-speak. Coming from a Packers fan no less.

Not a chance.[/QUOTE]

I actually have heard (I think on NFL Network) that KGB isn't in their plans really anymore.

Still that's a lot to give up when they have a great shot at Marshawn Lynch anyway

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Whatever happened to Samkon Gado? He was playing pretty well a couple years ago

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Gado is on Houston now.

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[quote=skinsfan69;301219]Why would GB give up all that just to move up to take Peterson?? They would have to be on crack to make that move.[/quote]I agree.

And do we really need another situational pass rusher to replace our highly paid situational pass rusher on pass rushing downs? Pa-lease. If we want to improve our pass rush we should try to do it from the interior DL.

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[quote=mredskins;301209]I think that is a pipe dream. GB would be giving up too much.[/quote]

I agree. Not only would GB be giving too much, Adrian Peterson will not be there at 6. If Cleveland doesn't take him, Arizona will. Of course this whole thing is total speculation, as are all of these possible scenarios we discuss, but this one I don't think has a snowball's chance in hell of happening.

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Draft is only a few days away, any specualtion is pointless, as with Snyder anything and everything is possible with all options on the table. For all we know the FO will draft Quinn.

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arizona will not grab him. they need to more help at the O-line and more players on the defense. they just payed james all that money they arent going to pay all that money to 2 RB's. they arent the redskins who tie all there money into one position for us it WR's. no way they take him.

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[quote=redskins5044;301272]arizona will not grab him. they need to more help at the O-line and more players on the defense. they just payed james all that money they arent going to pay all that money to 2 RB's. they arent the redskins who tie all there money into one position for us it WR's. no way they take him.[/quote]

"No way" Arizona takes him? I gotta disagree. James aging and has lost a step, and they don't have a backup who could make a viable starter. I agree that they need O-line and D, but from everything I've seen, Cleveland and Arizona are the top two suitors for Peterson. Besides, it's a two back league nowadays.

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[QUOTE=GMScud;301281]"No way" Arizona takes him? I gotta disagree. James aging and has lost a step, and they don't have a backup who could make a viable starter. I agree that they need O-line and D, but from everything I've seen, Cleveland and Arizona are the top two suitors for Peterson. Besides, it's a two back league nowadays.[/QUOTE]

I'll be surprised if Arizona takes Peterson. The Cards need O-line help after losing Leonard Davis who never really lived up to offensive tackle expectations -- plus, they'd love to have a bookend tackle to protect Matt Leinart for years to come.

You can always find suitable backup running backs later on. I'd say Joe Thomas is lock for Arizona.

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[quote=GMScud;301281]"No way" Arizona takes him? I gotta disagree. James aging and has lost a step, and they don't have a backup who could make a viable starter. I agree that they need O-line and D, but from everything I've seen, Cleveland and Arizona are the top two suitors for Peterson. Besides, it's a two back league nowadays.[/quote]

You're crazy. He's right, there's no way they'll take Peterson. They love them some Joe Thomas. They also would love a DE.

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[quote=Beemnseven;301288]I'll be surprised if Arizona takes Peterson. The Cards need O-line help after losing Leonard Davis who never really lived up to offensive tackle expectations -- plus, they'd love to have a bookend tackle to protect Matt Leinart for years to come.

You can always find suitable backup running backs later on. I'd say Joe Thomas is lock for Arizona.[/quote]

Although this years draft is weak in the RB department. And are we forgetting if Detroit doesn't move out of the two spot they could take Joe Thomas? I'm not saying Peterson is a lock to go to Arizona, I'm just saying there is a chance. E.James isn't all that anymore.

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[quote=Paintrain;301208]Pilfered from Matt Williamson's chat on ESPN today:



That would be an amazing deal for the Skins if we posed it instead of Minn I doubt that Minnesota and GB would make a trade like that but it wouldn't hurt either team much if we did it with GB..

A pass rusher, plus 2 picks? Are we smart enough to pursue that?[/quote]I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. probably won't happen though.

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no way arizon takes peterson. i know its a two back league but u dont spend what u did on james then draft a RB #5 overall that alot of money in spent on RB's. so its weak draft a RB in the second round to play alongside james.

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[quote=Schneed10;301293]You're crazy. He's right, there's no way they'll take Peterson. They love them some Joe Thomas. They also would love a DE.[/quote]

Why am I "crazy?" Because I think there is a chance Arizona will take Peterson? There IS a chance. Just b/c Mel Kiper's ever-changing mock draft doesn't have him penciled in doesn't mean it's not possible.

Edgerrin James is about to start his 10th season in the league, and simply isn't the player he used to be. I agree that Arizona needs help on the line both defensively and offensively. But as deep as this year's draft is for D-lineman, Arizona could get a high quality player at pick #38. They also have a pick at #69 as well.

Look, I'm not saying Peterson is going to Arizona. I'm just arguing that it's not out of the question. If Joe Thomas and Peterson are both there at 5, I agree that Thomas would be the pick. Remember, this whole thing started with me saying Peterson won't drop to the 6th pick or lower. That I believe, is a lock.

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[QUOTE=GMScud;301296]Although this years draft is weak in the RB department. And are we forgetting if Detroit doesn't move out of the two spot they could take Joe Thomas? I'm not saying Peterson is a lock to go to Arizona, I'm just saying there is a chance. E.James isn't all that anymore.[/QUOTE]

It's becoming less of an assumption that the Lions will trade back -- all signs seem to point to that, they apparently have a suitor in Tampa Bay who want CJ, and they have needs everywhere, so picking up extra selections without moving that far down would be the right choice.

The Lions want Gaines Adams; they've made no bones about it, but they can still grab him if they move back to #4. Cleveland will take Peterson alongside Jamal Lewis because "it's a two-back league nowadays", and Arizona can find running back help in the 3rd or 4th round.

Mark it down. This is how it'll play out.

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[quote=Beemnseven;301307]It's becoming less of an assumption that the Lions will trade back -- all signs seem to point to that, they apparently have a suitor in Tampa Bay who want CJ, and they have needs everywhere, so picking up extra selections without moving that far down would be the right choice.

The Lions want Gaines Adams; they've made no bones about it, but they can still grab him if they move back to #4. Cleveland will take Peterson alongside Jamal Lewis because "it's a two-back league nowadays", and Arizona can find running back help in the 3rd or 4th round.

Mark it down. This is how it'll play out.[/quote]


Any way you slice it, Saturday's draft could be one of the most exciting (at least the first two rounds) that we've seen in a long time. I can't wait. And just think of all the new stuff we'll have to talk about around here?? The past month or so has felt a lot like this:
:bdh:

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Totally agree GMScud, the draft is going to be a soap opera of major proportions. Anything can happen. All the speculation is just that specualtion. To be honest, knowing Snyder and co, we will draft at #6 and get a guy that wasn't on our radar or a major discussion point at least. I would like to have more picks though, and the consensus is that we will trade down, but you never know with this owner and FO!! Saturday is going to be a lot of fun!!!!!

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[QUOTE=GMScud;301310]Any way you slice it, Saturday's draft could be one of the most exciting (at least the first two rounds) that we've seen in a long time. I can't wait. And just think of all the new stuff we'll have to talk about around here?? The past month or so has felt a lot like this:[/QUOTE]


Amen, just let it be done with!

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I am making a vow not to come on the site until the draft is over.

The off season is so sadistic to all those dead horses. I'm leaving them alone... for now.

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KGB isnt near what he once was remember that, he isnt a top DE anymore. i think many are assuming that he is a top DE still. 40 tackles 6 sacks, 30 years old by next year, undersized, hasnt been elite since 2004. take that into account

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[quote=RobH4413;301314]I am making a vow not to come on the site until the draft is over.

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Sniff, sniff, sniff. Hmm smells like bullshit...

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We need Defensive Lineman and many of them

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I agree Knox. We need to draft 2 of them and then pick up a guard with our #3 pick. Our 6th rounder can be another D linemen also.

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[QUOTE=GMScud;301281]"No way" Arizona takes him? I gotta disagree. James aging and has lost a step, and they don't have a backup who could make a viable starter. I agree that they need O-line and D, but from everything I've seen, Cleveland and Arizona are the top two suitors for Peterson. Besides, it's a two back league nowadays.[/QUOTE]

the line is what made james suck. they take thomas when he falls into their lap...especially when grimm and whisenhunt are the offensive leaders of the team. no brainer