Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

If i was laron landry and i am not i would ask for the EXACT same contract that sean taylor got make it identical inevery way to avoid early tension just re-copy his contract and let me sign it

thoughts?????????????????????

Re: Would this be a good ides for Landry?
 

Did you mean idea? Cause here I am thinking ides of March and trying to figure out what this thread is really about

As for what it's really about, Landry shouldn't ask for the exact contract. He should ask for what the market dictates he get

Re: Would this be a good ides for Landry?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;307565]Did you mean idea? Cause here I am thinking ides of March and trying to figure out what this thread is really about

As for what it's really about, Landry shouldn't ask for the exact contract. He should ask for what the market dictates he get[/quote]


yeah i meant idea can you change that

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

landry should try to get a big a contract as he can within reason. He cant worry about how much money ST gets.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

1) Sean Taylors contract is a steal for the skins and he got somewhat hosed compared to other rookies drafted around him.

2) Expecting to get Landry for the same price is ridiculous. Every year rookie contracts go up. The NFL is about the 2nd contract, not the first.

Re: Would this be a good ides for Landry?
 

Earthquake..... do you type with your feet?

While I don't mind spelling errors here and there, you've been known to slaughter sentence after sentence. It's not a big deal, but it's kind of starting to grind my gears.

Here's a good idea. Download the newest Mozilla web browser. It comes with spell check built in, so while you're typing in the forums, the little red underline will come up and you'll be able to spell everything right. YAY!

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

thats crazy one mess up man i have never been known to "slaughter" sentences and nice family guy responses you know what grinds my gears people who use mike sellers at their picture lol j/k

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;307574]thats crazy one mess up man i have never been known to "slaughter" sentences and nice family guy responses you know what grinds my gears people who use mike sellers at their picture lol j/k[/quote]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not ragging on you, I'm just trying to help a brother out.

And don't hate on Mike Sellers... He's a friggin beast.

All love-

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=RobH4413;307578]Don't get me wrong, I'm not ragging on you, I'm just trying to help a brother out.

And don't hate on Mike Sellers... He's a friggin beast.

All love-[/quote]


i know i was kidding too

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

I think Landry should just sign for the rookie minimum, that way no one will be jealous and we will have more money available under the cap.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

ST was a steal. I'm thinking ST will probably walk after the whole contract stuff that went down between him and the Skins.

LL will most definitely sign a more lucrative contract.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;307574]thats crazy one mess up man i have never been known to "slaughter" sentences and nice family guy responses you know what grinds my gears people who use mike sellers at their picture lol j/k[/quote]
commas, periods? Landry will get as much as he can. they have the rookie pool money alloted, so i think its almost pre-determined what he can get

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

6% over what Vernon Davis got last year. I guess the particulars are where it could get hung up. Yeah, ST has been unhappy with his contract for a while, I guess sometimes IT IS good to have such a cozy relationship with Drew Rosenhaus.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

This would be a super-awesome idea....for the Skins. A terrible one for Landry. You can't spell S-T-E-A-L without ST. And now you won't be able to...spell,...umm.... L-A-U-N-D-R-Y with...out...LANDRY!

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

What Smooty said.

Taylor's contract was crap from the begining and the cap has gone up significantly. If he signed a contract like Taylo'rs the NFLPA might shoot his agent. Players in the 14-18 will be getting contracts like Taylor's. Landry's will be higher.

The Skins need to get moving on the Cooley deal and once that is done get Taylor re-upped. Pay him well. Over pay him a bit to keep him off the market. The last thing on Earth we need is Sean Taylor playing against us. That scares me.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=FRPLG;307633]What Smooty said.

Taylor's contract was crap from the begining and the cap has gone up significantly. If he signed a contract like Taylo'rs the NFLPA might shoot his agent. Players in the 14-18 will be getting contracts like Taylor's. Landry's will be higher.

The Skins need to get moving on the Cooley deal and once that is done get Taylor re-upped. Pay him well. Over pay him a bit to keep him off the market. The last thing on Earth we need is Sean Taylor playing against us. That scares me.[/quote]We have Taylor under contract through 2010.

After that, he will be 28 years old and on the downside of his career. We'd be smart to let him test the market at that point.

Cooley needs to be locked up now. Use the extra cap space we have and give him a 2 million roster bonus that allows us to skimp on the signing bonus. Cooley has skills that aren't replaceable. TEs with great hands who excel after the catch are very valuable and only come around every few years.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

I don't know about that one. ST was robbed. Good for the 'Skins though.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;307660]We have Taylor under contract through 2010.

After that, he will be 28 years old and on the downside of his career. We'd be smart to let him test the market at that point.

Cooley needs to be locked up now. Use the extra cap space we have and give him a 2 million roster bonus that allows us to skimp on the signing bonus. Cooley has skills that aren't replaceable. TEs with great hands who excel after the catch are very valuable and only come around every few years.[/quote]


how does being 28 automatically put you in the downside of your career that is asanince thinking. All of them portis cooley moss taylor landry randle el all should retire as redskins come on tripp what are you talking about

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

Yea thats ridiculous to say someones career is done by 28. Especially someone as talented as sean taylor.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;307764]how does being 28 automatically put you in the downside of your career that is asanince thinking. All of them portis cooley moss taylor landry randle el all should retire as redskins come on tripp what are you talking about[/quote]Well, fact, 28 is the average age of an NFL player. So assuming that half are on one side of their prime, half on the other, my statement makes logical sense.

This is a far cry from saying that he would be a useless player. He would actually still be in his prime. But thats the crazy thing about second contracts, is that they tend to be very expensive. You don't want to be handing out an expensive contract to a safety who won't be improving. That's not assinine, thats common sense.

The Franchise Tag may be a reasonable option if we want to keep him in town for 2011. You want to make him prove to you that he can keep playing.

Theoretically, Taylor is still improving now, and his contract is great value for the next 4 seasons. We have Landry in the wings, so we aren't committed to the guy, which is a very good thing. Let him play out his contract here. If we have a ton of cap room in 2011, let him set his market value and then go pay it.

You NEVER extend a contract for a guy who has 3+ years left on it. Everybody knows that. Too much can go wrong injury-wise.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

might be the average age doesnt mean on the downside remember tiki didnt hit prime to about 28 and barry sanders was in his prime at 31 when he left and peyton is still there so i dont see what youre getting at and marvin harison and tory holt as well

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

pay attention. he said the average career. who knows what category sean taylor will fall under at age 28. he is only clumping him in with the rest of the league.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

To answer the original question: NO

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;307796]might be the average age doesnt mean on the downside remember tiki didnt hit prime to about 28 and barry sanders was in his prime at 31 when he left and peyton is still there so i dont see what youre getting at and marvin harison and tory holt as well[/quote]Well, players like Tiki exist, but that makes him the exception, not the rule.

Peyton's a bad example because QBs tend to peak later than the rest of the positions.

Holt and Harrison and Sanders probably maxed out at age 28. Look, I'm not trying to say they were worthless players at age 28 (Barry Sanders was still playing at a HOF level when he retired), far, far from it. Heck, I was the biggest advocate for bringing Fletcher in here and he's going to be 32.

But when you give the big bucks to somebody who is 28 and coming off their rookie deal, you can't make the argument that you are "paying for potential" because in theory, the guy's as good as hes ever going to be (QBs the exception).

NFL contracts escilate on the back end, so if we were to sign a 28 year old Taylor to a 6 year deal, he'd be 32 and making more money in the 4th year of his deal than at any year in his career prior to that. What happens when Sean doesn't have elite physical skills anymore (30-31)? What is the strength of his game once his athleticism becomes pedestrian?

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;307881]Well, players like Tiki exist, but that makes him the exception, not the rule.

Peyton's a bad example because QBs tend to peak later than the rest of the positions.

Holt and Harrison and Sanders probably maxed out at age 28. Look, I'm not trying to say they were worthless players at age 28 (Barry Sanders was still playing at a HOF level when he retired), far, far from it. Heck, I was the biggest advocate for bringing Fletcher in here and he's going to be 32.

But when you give the big bucks to somebody who is 28 and coming off their rookie deal, you can't make the argument that you are "paying for potential" because in theory, the guy's as good as hes ever going to be (QBs the exception).

NFL contracts escilate on the back end, so if we were to sign a 28 year old Taylor to a 6 year deal, he'd be 32 and making more money in the 4th year of his deal than at any year in his career prior to that. What happens when Sean doesn't have elite physical skills anymore (30-31)? What is the strength of his game once his athleticism becomes pedestrian?[/quote]


i know that you said the average career but to me "prime" cant be put in an age group cause everyone peaks at different times and for Dmek you always seem to be right there on me telling me what i have missed (even though i didnt miss it this time) i love you dmek

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=Crat92;307702]I don't know about that one. ST was robbed. Good for the 'Skins though.[/quote]

How is that good for the Skins? It just means a future problem in the locker room is lurking.

They would be smart to extend him.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;308025]i know that you said the average career but to me "prime" cant be put in an age group cause everyone peaks at different times and for Dmek you always seem to be right there on me telling me what i have missed (even though i didnt miss it this time) i love you dmek[/quote]You're right. 28 is a rough estimate.

It's impossible to tell when a guy is going to have his best year. Even after he retires, you still don't really know when his best year was. But for a majority of players, I would say that their peak year falls somewhere between 27-29, and more than half at 28.

It's one of the reasons that Okoye was so intriguing. You have a player who will continue to improve physically for up to 10 years before even beginning to lose his physical skills. And he had the maximum amount of college experience to boot.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;308058]You're right. 28 is a rough estimate.

It's impossible to tell when a guy is going to have his best year. Even after he retires, you still don't really know when his best year was. But for a majority of players, I would say that their peak year falls somewhere between 27-29, and more than half at 28.

It's one of the reasons that Okoye was so intriguing. You have a player who will continue to improve physically for up to 10 years before even beginning to lose his physical skills. And he had the maximum amount of college experience to boot.[/quote]


but landry could have the same kind of dominance

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;308073]but landry could have the same kind of dominance[/quote]He's got everything you look for in a safety prospect, but an Amobi Okoye situation may never happen again. There will be other elite safety prospects in the future, believe me.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;308098]He's got everything you look for in a safety prospect, but an Amobi Okoye situation may never happen again. There will be other elite safety prospects in the future, believe me.[/quote]


true but there will be great dt prospects too that is the key word there

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;308098]He's got everything you look for in a safety prospect, but an Amobi Okoye situation may never happen again. There will be other elite safety prospects in the future, believe me.[/quote]

If they thought Okoye was that good they would have picked him. They picked the best guy on their board. You have to give them some credit for that.

Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?
 

[quote=Grim21Reaper;308101]If they thought Okoye was that good they would have picked him. They picked the best guy on their board. You have to give them some credit for that.[/quote]


damnit grim21reaper your taking words out of my mouth lol