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Schneed10 05-15-2007 11:48 AM

Taylor Reports to OTAs
 
Everyone can chill. Sean Taylor is in the house.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=3464]Taylor Joins Team For OTAs[/url]

12thMan 05-15-2007 11:53 AM

Re: Taylor Reports to OTAs
 
We should still trade him.

MTK 05-15-2007 11:54 AM

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WOW! What are we going to freak out about now??!!

Oh, that's right, Springs is still MIA.

jdlea 05-15-2007 11:56 AM

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See what happens when you have a guy has Drew Rosenhaus as an agent? They always hold out...blah, blah, blah. Funny how everyone jumped to conclusions over nothing...

hooskins 05-15-2007 12:01 PM

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AHHHH SKEETTT


sorry, ST is back....

sbaughone 05-15-2007 12:03 PM

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Quick - someone wake up sally jenkins in her manhattan loft and tell her the good news. I'm sure after she calls cris carter she will call Coach Gibbs and apologize. Oh wait. She's having brunch with her girlfriends. I guess covering the Redskins will have to wait a few more months...

hooskins 05-15-2007 12:11 PM

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No, lets not chill. Where are all the guys saying all hell is loose? What the F do these people have to say now...

I have a suggestion..say nothing. Ignore this thread, pretend like you didnt rant in those other ST threads, and move along because you were wrong.

firstdown 05-15-2007 12:18 PM

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[quote=jdlea;310230]See what happens when you have a guy has Drew Rosenhaus as an agent? They always hold out...blah, blah, blah. Funny how everyone jumped to conclusions over nothing...[/quote]
I'd have to say this is only real issue I have with this site is that people jump to conclusions, state rumor's a fact's etc... If its a rumor just say in my opinion or something like that and don't state it as fact until we know what is or is not true.

hooskins 05-15-2007 12:21 PM

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[quote=firstdown;310238]I'd have to say this is only real issue I have with [B]this site[/B] is that people jump to conclusions, state rumor's a fact's etc... If its a rumor just say in my opinion or something like that and don't state it as fact until we know what is or is not true.[/quote]

Dont say that man, this is true with all forums. Go to ES and you will go nuts at the amount of idiots that do that. It is atleast 10x worst than here. The point is that is the nature of forums and people.

12thMan 05-15-2007 12:21 PM

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But seriously, I wonder what Sally Jenkins has to say for herself.

jdlea 05-15-2007 12:22 PM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;310238]I'd have to say this is only real issue I have with this site is that people jump to conclusions, state rumor's a fact's etc... If its a rumor just say in my opinion or something like that and don't state it as fact until we know what is or is not true.[/QUOTE]

I agree, I said that until he starts missing mandatory stuff I don't care what he's doing. When you have a "voluntary" program, the guys don't HAVE to show up. He showed up late...I'm sure that will somehow be turned into how he doesn't respect the coaches or something.

However, I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt cause it is the offseason.

hooskins 05-15-2007 12:22 PM

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[quote=12thMan;310241]But seriously, I wonder what Sally Jenkins has to say for herself.[/quote]

That little bitch is gonna ignore it and pretend like it didnt happen. I know right now she is beyond mad and her cooter is probably acting up.

MTK 05-15-2007 12:22 PM

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[quote=hooskins;310236]No, lets not chill. Where are all the guys saying all hell is loose? What the F do these people have to say now...

I have a suggestion..say nothing. Ignore this thread, pretend like you didnt rant in those other ST threads, and move along because you were wrong.[/quote]


Nah, let's not let them off the hook that easy.

Where are those that said it was obvious he was going to hold out, he was disgruntled, we should trade him, etc.?

Someone should man up and eat some crow.

GridIron26 05-15-2007 12:23 PM

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[quote=12thMan;310228]We should still trade him.[/quote]

Why the hell would you want to trade ST???

jdlea 05-15-2007 12:24 PM

Re: Taylor Reports to OTAs
 
I'll raise my hand and say that I said, "if he wants an extension, the team should extend him..." Oh wait, that's not negative...

hooskins 05-15-2007 12:24 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;310244]Nah, let's not let them off the hook that easy.

Where are those that said it was obvious he was going to hold out, he was disgruntled, we should trade him, etc.?

Someone should man up and eat some crow.[/quote]

I doubt anyone is man enough, or woman enough, to step up and admit they were totally wrong.

hooskins 05-15-2007 12:25 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;310245]Why the hell would you want to trade ST???[/quote]

I'm pretty sure he is being sarcastic.

MTK 05-15-2007 12:28 PM

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[quote=hooskins;310248]I doubt anyone is man enough, or woman enough, to step up and admit they were totally wrong.[/quote]

I guess we'll just have to call some people out then. Normally I wouldn't be in favor of doing this, but there were a few people that were convinced that Taylor was disgruntled and this was all about his contract and those of us that weren't freaking out were blind to what was so obvious. :doh:

JDALY27 05-15-2007 12:31 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;310244]Nah, let's not let them off the hook that easy.

Where are those that said it was obvious he was going to hold out, he was disgruntled, we should trade him, etc.?

Someone should man up and eat some crow.[/quote]

I said he was unhappy with his current contract. Never talked trade. That would be the worst move ever. Post just ran an article on Springs as well. He will be reporting very shortly.

Funny how Gibbs going to the Post brought Taylor back pretty quickly. Maybe he does have the respect or maybe some of the other veterans called ST. Who knows, just really really happy he's back!

Still think we should lock him up long term.....

Southpaw 05-15-2007 12:33 PM

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[quote=hooskins;310248]I doubt anyone is man enough, or woman enough, to step up and admit they were totally wrong.[/quote]

I stayed away from the issue completely, because there's no point in arguing a topic that is 100% speculation.

And anyone that thinks showing up a week late to OTA's, that aren't even manditory, is a reason to trade one of the best safeties in the league needs their head examined.

Counter-Tre 05-15-2007 12:42 PM

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[quote=12thMan;310228]We should still trade him.[/quote]
For shame!!

12thMan 05-15-2007 12:47 PM

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You guys know I'm kidding, right?

FRPLG 05-15-2007 12:53 PM

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That what hessy says?

12thMan 05-15-2007 12:54 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;310259]That what hessy says?[/quote]

you guys...

JWsleep 05-15-2007 12:55 PM

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[QUOTE=sbaughone;310234]Quick - someone wake up sally jenkins in her manhattan loft and tell her the good news. I'm sure after she calls cris carter she will call Coach Gibbs and apologize. Oh wait. She's having brunch with her girlfriends. I guess covering the Redskins will have to wait a few more months...[/QUOTE]

Nice.:lol:

FRPLG 05-15-2007 12:56 PM

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Superbowl here we come!

Hog1 05-15-2007 12:58 PM

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Sorry bout' that! Too little, TOOOO late. Trade his ass for Sam Adams, and we'll convert him to safety!

Defensewins 05-15-2007 01:03 PM

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I am tired and pissed with these OTA alarmists. If the world will implode when a top player misses a "VOLUNTARY" work out in May, then don't make them "VOLUNTARY"! F-ing Morons!
Talk about sending mixed signals. These work outs are voluntary but if you miss one than your reputation is trashed publicly in the press. Why?

NOTE to NFL Management, coaches and morons in the press:
GET YOUR S*#IT TOGETHER!
Look up the word "VOLUNTARY" in the dictionary and use it in a sentence.
Learn it...live it or else change the voluntary part of OTA's. You can not have it both ways.
One more thing, I do not like the practice of the Redskins and Gibbs airing private player situations in the press. It is between the team and the player and does not involve anyone else. The Patriots do a much better job handling their personnel issues behind closed doors. It is a respect thing and I do not like it when a player or team uses the press to get what they want.
It lacks class and is childish.
Gibbs needs to stop vocalizing everything that runs through his mind to the press. It is not a good practice in any business.

dmek25 05-15-2007 01:39 PM

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was offiss present for the sean taylor is holding out tirade? i want names, damnit

skinsfan69 05-15-2007 01:41 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;310270]I am tired and pissed with these OTA alarmists. If the world will implode when a top player misses a "VOLUNTARY" work out in May, then don't make them "VOLUNTARY"! F-ing Morons!
Talk about sending mixed signals. These work outs are voluntary but if you miss one than your reputation is trashed publicly in the press. Why?

NOTE to NFL Management, coaches and morons in the press:
GET YOUR S*#IT TOGETHER!
Look up the word "VOLUNTARY" in the dictionary and use it in a sentence.
Learn it...live it or else change the voluntary part of OTA's. You can not have it both ways.
One more thing, I do not like the practice of the Redskins and Gibbs airing private player situations in the press. It is between the team and the player and does not involve anyone else. The Patriots do a much better job handling their personnel issues behind closed doors. It is a respect thing and I do not like it when a player or team uses the press to get what they want.
It lacks class and is childish.
Gibbs needs to stop vocalizing everything that runs through his mind to the press. It is not a good practice in any business.[/quote]

Could not have said it better myself. OTA's are not mandatory! Every NFL team has guys that don't show up to OTA's. Come Sept. who the hell is going to care? But it's May and it's the only thing to talk about.

MTK 05-15-2007 01:44 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;310270]One more thing, I do not like the practice of the Redskins and Gibbs airing private player situations in the press. It is between the team and the player and does not involve anyone else. The Patriots do a much better job handling their personnel issues behind closed doors. It is a respect thing and I do not like it when a player or team uses the press to get what they want.
It lacks class and is childish.
Gibbs needs to stop vocalizing everything that runs through his mind to the press. It is not a good practice in any business.[/quote]

Not sure what you're talking about... Gibbs rarely gives the press much of anything to chew on. In this case he simply said he lost contact with Taylor and Springs which was the truth. I don't think the situation was anything of a sensitive nature that shouldn't have been out there in the media.

MTK 05-15-2007 01:49 PM

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[quote=dmek25;310277]was offiss present for the sean taylor is holding out tirade? i want names, damnit[/quote]

Just look through this thread

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/18192-springs-and-taylor-miss-otas.html[/URL]

ArtMonkDrillz 05-15-2007 01:53 PM

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Here's an even better one for you, Matty...

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/18264-trade-sean-taylor.html#post310111[/url]

Too bad SmootSmack2.0 felt the need to lock it up, because it might be fun right about now.

MTK 05-15-2007 01:56 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;310285]Here's an even better one for you, Matty...

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/18264-trade-sean-taylor.html#post310111[/URL]

Too bad SmootSmack2.0 felt the need to lock it up, because it might be fun right about now.[/quote]

Yeah good call on that quick shutdown by SS... that thread would have gotten ugly really quick. :doh:

jdlea 05-15-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Taylor Reports to OTAs
 
Yeah, but who said we should trade Taylor for Briggs? And then went on to say that a reason would be because we need a DE?

dmek25 05-15-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Taylor Reports to OTAs
 
ok-
grim
dallasblows
earthquake
and scud seem to be the main offenders. 3 months for all.
(of course im just kidding)

hesscl34 05-15-2007 02:25 PM

Re: Taylor Reports to OTAs
 
[quote=FRPLG;310259]That what hessy says?[/quote]

...now be nice children..

KnoxRedskins 05-15-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Taylor Reports to OTAs
 
[B]There is no way in [U]HE double [/U]hockey stick we should trade S Taylor.....[/B]

Oakland Red 05-15-2007 02:32 PM

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Good decision by Sean Taylor to report to camp. Whether something is voluntary or not doesn't say whether it is good or not to do - it just means you have the option to choose.

Is it better that Sean Taylor come to camp with everyone else, if the goal is working together as a team, and contributing to team harmony? Of course. Co-operation means:

1.an act or instance of working or acting together for a common purpose or benefit; joint action.

Co-operation is good if the goal is team success; holding out is not.

As for the idea that Coach Gibbs erred in talking about the week long Sean Taylor holdout, I wonder what he might have done otherwise.

(FAKE) Interview:

Reporter: Coach, I notice that Sean Taylor is not here. Can you comment on why?

Coach Gibbs: Is Sean not here?

Reporter: Yes, apparently he is still in Florida.

Coach Gibbs: It must be nice down there. Hope he's enjoying the weather.

Reporter: Coach, have you talked to Sean?

Coach Gibbs: Do you mean by that, communicate with him verbally?

Reporter: Yes.

Coach Gibbs: Well, I don't think I can say anything about that. That's Redskins' business.

Reporter: So, it's not the business of the Redskins community, meaning the fans?

Coach Gibbs: Certainly not. The fans have no right to know what is going on. We take care of issues "in house." If you're a fan, you're "out-house."

Reporter: So the fans should not be allowed to know if a player is refusing to communicate with the head coach and the team?

Coach Gibbs: Nope.

Reporter: So, fans should be kept in the dark, and issues whitewashed, and the elephant in the corner of the room should be ignored, despite all the concern that fans will have anyway about Sean's absence?

Coach Gibbs: Right. In-house is in-house, the out-house is the out-house. Fan concern is not something we worry about.


Coach Gibbs cares about the fans enormously, and I think it was entirely appropriate that he let everyone know that half his starting secondary was (and one still is) refusing to communicate. We are a community and while you can't share everything that goes on (contract negotiations) you want to share what you can, so the fans are not excluded from information of interest to any person with a serious interest in the welfare of the team. Being as inclusive as possible is the best policy.

MTK 05-15-2007 02:38 PM

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LOL nice mock interview with Gibbs.


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