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mlmpetert 05-22-2007 08:42 AM

McNabb/Briggs trade?
 
Doubt there is anything but speculation behind this but thought i should share it

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Super-shuffle-McNabb-Briggs-swap-makes-sense?urn=nfl,33381"]Super shuffle? McNabb, Briggs swap makes sense - Rumors - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

and even if this does happen I would rather play agiants Briggs then have him play for us. I love the restraint we have been showing this offseason

gibbsisgod 05-22-2007 08:47 AM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
This is just a rumor. There is no facts in that, just one idiots imagination running wild. Maybe he has been playing too much Madden?

Schneed10 05-22-2007 08:50 AM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
LOL this is insane.

Andy Reid wants to have like 10,000 of McNabb's babies, that's how much he loves him. There is no way Reid ever trades McNabb.

The Eagles have always drafted players at positions well before a need for their service arises.

MTK 05-22-2007 08:57 AM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
What's a trad?

gibbsisgod 05-22-2007 08:58 AM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
[quote=Schneed10;311997]LOL this is insane.

[B]Andy Reid wants to have like 10,000 of McNabb's babies, that's how much he loves him.[/B] There is no way Reid ever trades McNabb.

The Eagles have always drafted players at positions well before a need for their service arises.[/quote]
That is my new sig Schneed! Love it!

ArtMonkDrillz 05-22-2007 09:01 AM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;311998]What's a trad?[/QUOTE]

Well, since two men can't get married in this country McNabb and Briggs would need to get what the Chippewa Indians called a "trad" or "maze" and they will be joined together for life.
Either that, or it's a typo.

mlmpetert 05-22-2007 09:04 AM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;311998]What's a trad?[/quote]


Short for trade. didnt have enough time to type it all the way out.

MTK 05-22-2007 09:05 AM

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[quote=mlmpetert;312002]Short for trade. didnt have enough time to type it all the way out.[/quote]

Yeah that extra 'e' would have been a real time killer. Proof reading is underrated.

SBXVII 05-22-2007 09:12 AM

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I like this. All we keep hearing is how the Redskins are trading someone for Briggs. I think Skin fans should start spreading rumors about other teams trading for Briggs.

SBXVII 05-22-2007 09:14 AM

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Didn't Farve state if GB didn't trade for Briggs to upgrade their defense then he wanted to be traded.lol.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-22-2007 09:22 AM

Re: McNabb/Briggs trade?
 
never in life

hagams 05-22-2007 09:25 AM

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That's not what Farve said....He said if GB didnt' trade for Briggs he was going to retire, and join the International Ping-Pong Leauge.

skinsfan_nn 05-22-2007 09:52 AM

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This is total non sense. Not this year anyway....McNoNabs is running out of time in puke land

PSUSkinsFan21 05-22-2007 10:01 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;312003]Proof reading is underrated.[/quote]

And now I have an addition to my sig too.

SBXVII 05-22-2007 10:06 AM

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My sources tell me that all the owners are tired of players not being happy with their contracts they signed and wishing to be traded so all the owners have agreed to pick one player (who should be a first rounder) and put their name in a Bingo style Lottery system. First to be drawn will be the players name. The new team he will be playing for will be drawn second. good luck with you new teams. lol.

FRPLG 05-22-2007 10:07 AM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;311997]LOL this is insane.

Andy Reid wants to have like 10,000 of McNabb's babies, that's how much he loves him. There is no way Reid ever trades McNabb.

The Eagles have always drafted players at positions well before a need for their service arises.[/QUOTE]

Except the fact that they have not ever really done anything with McNabb in there. Unless they win an unexpected SB this year then ultimately McNabb is going to go down as a good QB who never had enough of what it took to get a ring.

I don't think anyone of consequence in Philly, Reid included, is married to the idea of McNabb running the show much longer. Hell I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid out of there in the next few years. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a good coach but in the end they have had SB quality teams, or supposedly so, and only been to one and lost it. At some point they have to decide whether Reid and/or McNabb is the guy to get them a SB. A lot of times teams in the NFL dump good players/coaches in similar situations. They have a good enough front office to build SB quality teams so moving on to a new solution at QB/HC might be the only step to take.

MTK 05-22-2007 10:15 AM

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I definitely think the writing is on the wall for McNabb. He needs to stay healthy and take the Eagles deep into the playoffs sooner rather than later. The Eagles have shown in the past they have no problem cutting ties with veteran players who they think are overpaid and nearing the end of their career.

mredskins 05-22-2007 10:28 AM

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From the Eagles Website Writer.



It started as a fill-the-space "scenario" in the Sunday sports section in Philadelphia. A reporter named Don McKee, who has not stepped foot in an Eagles locker room in many years, if ever, tossed one against the wall to see if it would stick.
The embarrassing part, the evidence that there is too much media and too little going on right now in the sports world, especially in Philadelphia, is that it did stick.

And now some are actually, unbelievably of the belief that the idea of trading Donovan McNabb to the Chicago Bears for linebacker Lance Briggs has some teeny, tiny fraction of truth.

On the record, it doesn't.

Anybody with half a brain knows that. The problem is that we don't live in a world where that much brainpower is used.

Hey Don, I have to take a really strong stance here and tell you that no team in the world would trade a quarterback the caliber of McNabb for a linebacker. Nobody. Really, it is a completely foolish suggestion, in my opinion.

SBXVII 05-22-2007 10:28 AM

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I like Mcnabb. I think he is great in his interviews. Nice persinality. I despise that his mom tried to rain in on his parade(cambel soup) but otherwise I like him alot. but I belive he is washed up now.

PSUSkinsFan21 05-22-2007 10:30 AM

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I agree with Matty. This is a QB who has not been able to stay healthy and has played in 10 games or less 3 of the last 5 years. When you have a team that is otherwise ready to win during those years, how valuable and irreplaceable is McNabb, really? I understand he plays a different game than many other qbs in the league, but the guy is just, quite simply, too injury prone to hang your franchise on. I think the chances of McNabb getting another contract out of the Eagles is slim to none..........so why not trade him while you can get value?

That said, I don't think Briggs is the guy that they pull the trigger on.......but a trade either this year or the next would not shock me.

MTK 05-22-2007 10:32 AM

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For the record I think he's far from washed up, but his durability is a problem right now. The Eagles showed last year with Garcia they don't need him to win. He needs to come back and take the Eagles to a level Garcia couldn't take them.

gibbsisgod 05-22-2007 10:40 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;312049]I definitely think the writing is on the wall for McNabb. He needs to stay healthy and take the Eagles deep into the playoffs sooner rather than later. The Eagles have shown in the past they have no problem cutting ties with veteran players who they think are overpaid and nearing the end of their career.[/quote]I think its SB or bust for him this year. They have proven that just about any QB can get them deep into the playoffs.

dmek25 05-22-2007 11:10 AM

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this is a joke. i agree with schneed. Mcnabb is the ultimate company guy who says and does all the right things. that and the eagles have been to 3 NFC championship games, and 1 super bowl with him. other then the injuries, why would the eagles even consider this? just yesterday in pfw i saw another proposed trade involving Mcnabb, to green bay for Favre. i say no way mcnabb goes anywhere. can anyone even name the eagles starter before Mcnabb showed up?

skinsfan_nn 05-22-2007 11:54 AM

Re: McNabb/Briggs trade?
 
[quote=dmek25;312072]this is a joke. i agree with schneed. Mcnabb is the ultimate company guy who says and does all the right things. that and the eagles have been to 3 NFC championship games, and 1 super bowl with him. other then the injuries, why would the eagles even consider this? just yesterday in pfw i saw another proposed trade involving Mcnabb, to green bay for Favre. i say no way mcnabb goes anywhere. can anyone even name the eagles starter before Mcnabb showed up?[/quote]

If memory is correct that was Detmer and then Peete. They won't consider this, but his days are numbered in philly.

If you can't stay healthy and on the field, which he can't doesn't matter how good you used to be.

Schneed10 05-22-2007 12:04 PM

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I know it's a lame and pretty half assed way to debate, but you guys should trust us Philly folks on this. Probably the biggest reason Dmek and I are in agreement here is because we're both exposed to local sports coverage of Philadelphia sports teams that you guys don't get to see. We've both probably seen the same WPVI (Philly ABC affiliate) interviews showing Reid saying things like "I may be biased, but I think Donovan McNabb is the best quarterback in the entire NFL." and "There is no way I will ever trade Donovan McNabb."

95% of my friends are Eagles fans. Not one of them thinks the Eagles would actually trade him for Briggs. It's an insane idea from their perspective. As Philly sports heroes go, the town LOVES McNabb. They booed Mike Schmidt, ran Allen Iverson out of town, ran Scott Rolen out of town, etc. They may boo McNabb on occasion, but next to Lenny Dykstra, I don't think there's an athlete they've loved more since Julius Erving.

Not that fan reaction is a reason to keep a player. But the point stands, Andy Reid hand-picked Donovan McNabb and he still loves him to death. He just recognizes a need for serious depth at the position given McNabb's penchant for injury.

Schneed10 05-22-2007 12:05 PM

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PS In case you didn't know, Reid has final say on all personnel moves.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-22-2007 12:15 PM

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and that means that mcnabb isnt going anywhere

dmek25 05-22-2007 12:52 PM

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schneed, good analysis. day after day of hearing Reid declare Mcnabb as the second coming of Joe Montana. Reid wanted Mcnabb, got him, and will ride off into the sunset with him, right or wrong. almost like Gibbs did with Brunell. i would be willing to bet when Mcnabb leaves/ retires, Reid leaves the eagles

PSUSkinsFan21 05-22-2007 01:27 PM

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I live and work in Philly, and I still say there is zero chance Banner puts up the money for the next contract for McNabb. That said, a trade this year or next makes sense. Not for Briggs......but I'd still wager that McNabb plays for a different team in the not so distant future.

Schneed10 05-22-2007 01:35 PM

Re: McNabb/Briggs trade?
 
[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;312141]I live and work in Philly, and I still say there is zero chance Banner puts up the money for the next contract for McNabb. That said, a trade this year or next makes sense. Not for Briggs......but I'd still wager that McNabb plays for a different team in the not so distant future.[/quote]

Next contract? Why is that an issue? He's signed through 2013! And it's not like taking up a lot of cap space is an issue for the Eagles, they're always well under the cap. Here's where Canuck's links to the salary cap pages of other teams comes in handy... in 2008 and 2009 they're $20 - $30 million under the cap.

There is no financial incentive to move McNabb from Philadelphia. Reid's not lying when he says Kolb was picked for insurance.

Rajmahal33 05-22-2007 01:40 PM

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I heard McNabb got Vick started on Dog-fighting. That info is going to go public and thats why the Eagles drafted Kolb and want to swap QB's with Indy for Peyton Manning. Meanwhile Vick had so much success in Lambeau in the playoffs that GB is going to trade for him and send FavRE back to the team that drafted him, Atlanta. On a side note this will also work out b/c Wisconsin hates dogs, in fact their state animal is a cat.

Hog1 05-22-2007 01:45 PM

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Wisconsin hates dogs????? WTF, what about sled dogs?????? On Donner, On Cupid, and the other dog's. Let's see......I know they like Badger's.......

skinsfan69 05-22-2007 02:23 PM

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these off season threads are getting painful.

PSUSkinsFan21 05-22-2007 02:33 PM

Re: McNabb/Briggs trade?
 
[quote=Schneed10;312143]Next contract? Why is that an issue? He's signed through 2013! And it's not like taking up a lot of cap space is an issue for the Eagles, they're always well under the cap. Here's where Canuck's links to the salary cap pages of other teams comes in handy... in 2008 and 2009 they're $20 - $30 million under the cap.

There is no financial incentive to move McNabb from Philadelphia. Reid's not lying when he says Kolb was picked for insurance.[/quote]

I stand corrected then......i thought I read somewhere that he had two years left. My bad for not having my facts straight.

Pocket$ $traight 05-22-2007 09:22 PM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
[quote=Schneed10;311997]LOL this is insane.

Andy Reid wants to have like 10,000 of McNabb's babies, that's how much he loves him. There is no way Reid ever trades McNabb.

The Eagles have always drafted players at positions well before a need for their service arises.[/quote]

It looks like Reid is ready to give birth to those 10,000 babies... Think of how happy the drug dealers would be!

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-22-2007 09:47 PM

Re: McNabb Briggs trad?
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;312342]It looks like Reid is ready to give birth to those 10,000 babies... Think of how happy the drug dealers would be![/quote]


they would be extremely extatic

sportscurmudgeon 05-23-2007 03:55 PM

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1. I believe that McNabb's contract gives him an opt out after the 2008 season. So in a sense, he may indeed only have two years left on the deal although it does extend for 5 more seasons.

2. It's a bit harsh to say the Eagles have never acomplished anything with McNabb at QB. They were the worst team in the league the year they got to draft him. The reason they had 2nd pick is because that's the year the Browns came back to the league and the Browns has the #1 pick. From those depths, the Eagles have won the NFL East 5 times and been to the NFC Championship game 3 times and to the Super Bowl once. That's hardly "never accomplished anything". By that standard, Sonny Jurgensen "never accomplished anything either..." Dan Marino "never accomplished anything either..." Jeff George never ... well the analogy does break down there.

PSUSkinsFan21 05-23-2007 04:08 PM

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;312690]1. I believe that McNabb's contract gives him an opt out after the 2008 season. So in a sense, he may indeed only have two years left on the deal although it does extend for 5 more seasons.
[/quote]

ahh, thanks SC. I knew I saw that 2 year figure somewhere.

GusFrerotte 05-23-2007 04:34 PM

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McNabb is expendable at this point. He has pretty much taken the Eagles as far as they are ever going to go. He choked in the big game a few years ago and with his injuries it has been all downhill from there. All he has to do is get that knee whacked really good and it could be all over for him. Option Qb's will never win a SB in my opinion, and McNabb IS overrated to boot.

Schneed10 05-23-2007 04:42 PM

Re: McNabb/Briggs trade?
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;312690]1. I believe that McNabb's contract gives him an opt out after the 2008 season. So in a sense, he may indeed only have two years left on the deal although it does extend for 5 more seasons.[/quote]

I'd be curious to know why McNabb would want to opt out in 2008? His base salary is $5.5 million in 2007, and only steadily increases from there. The contract is backloaded to a degree, meaning a large portion of his money is still due to him.

I see no financial incentive for him to opt out and leave Philly, and I still think that on a national level folks are way underestimating Andy Reid's commitment to him.

The only reason McNabb would want to opt out like that would be if Reid decided Kolb was way too good to sit. I guess anything's possible, but I don't like the chances of that happening. Kolb's situation has Matt Schaub written all over it.


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