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Even though some starters have been named (Rocky) we all know that things could change come August, and sometimes the best battles are within the team not against other teams. With that in mind which battle do you think will be the tightest competition:

Will it be the battle for the starting OLB alongside MW, the battle for starting safety opposite Taylor, the battle for #2 receiver, and so on?

Vote or 12thMan will make not so subtle semi-uncomfortable passes at you throughout the board.

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[quote=SmootSmack;312236]Even though some starters have been named (Rocky) we all know that things could change come August, and sometimes the best battles are within the team not against other teams. With that in mind which battle do you think will be the tightest competition:

Will it be the battle for the starting OLB alongside MW, the battle for starting safety opposite Taylor, the battle for #2 receiver, and so on?

Vote or 12thMan will make not so subtle semi-uncomfortable passes at you throughout the board.[/quote]


ok i voted 12th leave me alone[IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon10.gif[/IMG]

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It's definitely that 2nd CB spot. Whoever emerges victorious in that battle is going to be counted on to hold up in coverage to allow the strong safety to flex down towards the line of scrimmage.

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I think Lemar can still play outside at a high level. To me the onus is on Rock to prove he can do the same. He's still something of an unknown quantity.

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[quote=Schneed10;312240]It's definitely that 2nd CB spot. Whoever emerges victorious in that battle is going to be counted on to hold up in coverage to allow the strong safety to flex down towards the line of scrimmage.[/quote]


exactly

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You forgot Brunell vs Campbell... :laughing2

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[quote=Southpaw;312244]You forgot Brunell vs Campbell... :laughing2[/quote]


yeah that is a big one

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[quote=Schneed10;312240]It's definitely that 2nd CB spot. Whoever emerges victorious in that battle is going to be counted on to hold up in coverage to allow the strong safety to flex down towards the line of scrimmage.[/quote]

I still don't think there's a chance in hell that Rogers loses his spot.

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I'd say the strong safety spot is big in terms of impact to the team, but it seems that GW has already indicated that "based on what he's seen so far, it won't be long before Landry is starting."

So the heat seems to have been taken away from that one.

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The LB showdown. Can Rocky get there?

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[quote=Southpaw;312246]I still don't think there's a chance in hell that Rogers loses his spot.[/quote]

Really? Why?

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I think the Lock vs. Rock battle could be interesting because if he loses it could mean the end of the Rock era in a Redskins uniform (some may say that era is long overdue for closure)

I tend to be more a fan of the make the roster vs. don't make the roster battles.

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[quote=Schneed10;312249]Really? Why?[/quote]

Williams puts a premium on tackling and Rogers is a great tackler. His coverage skills still need work, but Smoot is not head and shoulders above Rogers at this point in his career.

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[quote=Southpaw;312252]Williams puts a premium on tackling and Rogers is a great tackler. His coverage skills still need work, but Smoot is not head and shoulders above Rogers at this point in his career.[/quote]


smoot played for williams before

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I voted other. We all know how much Gibbs loves Brunell and if JC is not ready Brunell could win his job back. Brunell holds the edge because of his time in Saunders system and time on the field with our WR's.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;312254]smoot played for williams before[/quote]

He's still a half assed tackler when compared to Rogers, and he wasn't exactly smothering people in Minnesota for the last two seasons.

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I voted for Lloyd vs. Randle El. Both of those guys need to bounce back big. Last year we were expecting big things from them. Especially Lloyd. I also want to see how much the chemistry has grown between him and Campbell.

As for Randle El, he did make some great plays, but we need him to be more of a consitent pass catcher.

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I voted Smoot v. Rogers, though I really like the Blalock v. Rock vote, though it's not necessarily for a roster spot. Last year we kept 4 rb's on the roster & could again this year w/Rock again being #4.

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I think the easy choice is LeMar v. Rocky.

I'm going with Wade vs. some training no name. I'm not sure he's a lock to start, there could be a diamond in the rough. We'll see.

And yes, I will make not so subtle passes if you're not careful.

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[quote=Redskins_P;312263]I voted for Lloyd vs. Randle El. Both of those guys need to bounce back big. Last year we were expecting big things from them. Especially Lloyd. I also want to see how much the chemistry has grown between him and Campbell.

As for Randle El, he did make some great plays, but we need him to be more of a consitent pass catcher.[/quote]

I thought ARE had a decent, if not good, year. He was pretty consistent, he's not a burner so he a lot of cb's can play him tight, but he made plays when they got him the ball. I thought JC started to go to him a lot more at the end of the year & it looked like they had good chemistry going. I look for that to continue.

Loyd & the new LG will be the x factors on O. If those 2 spots can produce at even a little above avg. our O will be tough to stop.
I just see ARE getting more time than Loyd.

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[quote=Southpaw;312260]He's still a half assed tackler when compared to Rogers, and he wasn't exactly smothering people in Minnesota for the last two seasons.[/quote]


yes but right now i put smoot over rogers and not just in madden

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;312267]yes but right now i put smoot over rogers and not just in madden[/quote]

I'd put money on Gregg Williams NOT putting Smoot above Rogers.

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once rogers gets burned he will be replaced, unless he shows drastic improvement in handling the williams Defensive schemes, smoot has already succeeded on this defense

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Rogers will step up, he had no competition last year for his spot, plus there were other issues w/the D that had everybody playing poorly. Look for Rogers to start showing his skills again as he started to in 05.

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No Brunell vs. Collins votes...

I think that is riveting. Gibbs boy vs Al's boy. Sideline slinger vs KC mess.

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Smoot vs Rogers the talent is high in that one and attitudes as well.

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I would hope that Coach wouldn't pull a Ramsey on JC. Brunell is finished. Even his "comeback" 2005 season ended up with him reverting to lousy 2004 form. If it is true JC has worked very hard in the offseason I can't see it being much of a contest between him and Brunell.

To me, the fiercest fight fo a starting job is Lemar and Rocky. Sure Rocky has been named the starter, but Lemar is still a quality LB and the vet starter. Naming Rocky the starter will light a fire under Marshall's butt(maybe that is what the hidden motive of the announcement was).

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[quote=hooskins;312278]No Brunell vs. Collins votes...

I think that is riveting. Gibbs boy vs Al's boy. Sideline slinger vs KC mess.[/quote]
The more important battle may still be between Gibbs and Saunders themselves.

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[quote=Lady Brave;312284]The more important battle may still be between Gibbs and Saunders themselves.[/quote]


yes that will be intresting

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Wow! Post 30 and no one has mentioned Portis vs. Betts? One of these guys is going to become the goto guy.

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[quote=GoSkins!;312337]Wow! Post 30 and no one has mentioned Portis vs. Betts?[/quote]


because that is not a competion portis is the unquestioned starter

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;312338]because that is not a competion portis is the unquestioned starter[/quote]

He should be, but his attitude has been slipping. Stupid comments ever since last preseason and Saunders never liked him taking himself out of games. The way Betts played last year, Saunders could use him more to send Portis a message.

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Regarding the second corner spot, I don't think it is that important who is the starter. The thing that Smoot gives them is the ability to move pieces around. Now Springs will be able to line up in the slot and blitz more. Rogers and Smoot can play both sides of the field. I just hope that the d-line takes some strides forward. If Carter plays like he did in the second half and Griff can stay healthy, they will be fine. I would like them to sign some huge run stuffer to stick in there on running downs. Did Grady Jackson get released? Sign him and Adams and the corners would barely be in bounds when they line up.

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[quote=GoSkins!;312339]He should be, but his attitude has been slipping. Stupid comments ever since last preseason and Saunders never liked him taking himself out of games. The way Betts played last year, Saunders could use him more to send Portis a message.[/quote]

You can't score if your runningback fumbles the ball away.

I saw the Giants game on In demand. The Redskins were completely dominating those blue biatches and Betts pissed it away. His early fumble changed the whole game.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;312341]You can't score if your runningback fumbles the ball away.

I saw the Giants game on In demand. The Redskins were completely dominating those blue biatches and Betts pissed it away. His early fumble changed the whole game.[/quote]


exactly betts fumbles way too much

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[quote=GoSkins!;312339]He should be, but his attitude has been slipping. Stupid comments ever since last preseason and Saunders never liked him taking himself out of games. The way Betts played last year, Saunders could use him more to send Portis a message.[/quote]


that would be stupid and what message would we be sending him: "hey portis you are good and all and lead us on that 2005 surge into the playoffs but we want fumble prone betts who isnt better, isnt faster, isnt stronger, isnt tougher, and not as explosive we will play him more."

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I said other because i believe the best battle will be Jansen vs. Wade. First off I don't think wade can play left guard. He's way to big and doesn't have the quickness or leverage to get under DT. I think eventually Bugal will figure this out. I do believe however that he is better than Jansen at right tackle. Though I am a huge Jansen fan for his sevice throughout the years, his play has really dropped off the last two years. I believe that Wade is a better player, we know from reports that many of our dlinemen also believe this to be true. Don't see it happening though, Jansen is a team leader.

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!;312339]He should be, but his attitude has been slipping. Stupid comments ever since last preseason and Saunders never liked him taking himself out of games. The way Betts played last year, Saunders could use him more to send Portis a message.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Best of all Ladell Betts knows how to hold his tongue.

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[quote=Smooter;312369]I agree. Best of all Ladell Betts knows how to hold his tongue.[/quote]


ok that is crazy but welcome to the board

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lol, thanks. I just like how Betts doesn't have to be the center of attention like Portis seems to do.